Making MCOC work for you

JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,098 ★★★★
Some of the things I noticed in MCOC

1) Apple and Google take 30% cut of anything Kabam sell in money offers but not unit offers, this is why you will see Kabam sell important stuff in units not in money terms within the game

This is great for players bcos you can get free "unlimited" units from arena, there is however a limit to how much you can grind from arenas due to factors like time (you need to sleep), finger fatigue etc

Kabam knows how much units you can get from arenas each month, that is how they price their unit offers, if you get 10,000 free units per month (hardcore arena grinder) you won't have enough units for each spending event bcos there won't be enough time for you to grind units between each spending event

Kabam wants to sell you units through the webstore in cash terms where they will get 100% of the sales revenue

2) Arena grinding is getting more difficult for newer players with smaller accounts bcos there are more 7* rank 4 in the 4*-7* arenas, longtime players with bigger accounts are not affected like me. However I don't grind arena, having less than 70k arena wins for almost 10 years of playing

Smaller accounts have to focus on the 4* arena if you really want to grind for units, this is why more players want T1 dust now bcos they want to grind 4* arena (6* and 7* champion cooldown takes very long also)

3) The reason why I don't grind arena is the cost of time for me, I have better things to do. You need to calculate for yourself what works the best for yourself, some ppl get more units working side gigs and buying units than grinding units from arenas

If you want to buy the unit offers for every spending event, you need to find the most efficient method of doing so

Maybe a part time job can get you more units than grinding arenas per hour

4) Do you really need that 7* human torch? Ask yourself what is your objective in this game. Knowing your objective in this game will help you know what you need in this game. Don't get caught up in the hype from youtubers showing you how great 7* rank 4 human torch is against mystic champions

I have seen players buy 7* Omega Red and rank 3 him only to not use him anywhere bcos he needs suicide masteries and suicide masteries don't work well in battlegrounds

Are you sure 7* human torch is absolutely necessary for battlegrounds meta now and in the future? Whales are actually buying all the unit offers for the rank up materials for more 7* rank 4 champions in their battlegrounds deck for other champions that are more necessary in any meta

7* Dark phoenix on the other hand is absolutely a strong defender in battlegrounds that withstood the test of time

Comments

  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,098 ★★★★

    10k units through arena grind in a month is not possible FTP

    I'm just quoting from other players who claimed it's possible in a month but not sustainable every month
  • Razorlord7Razorlord7 Member Posts: 112
    It's not possible FTP

    10k units through arena grind in a month is not possible FTP

    I'm just quoting from other players who claimed it's possible in a month but not sustainable every month
  • CandyCane2CandyCane2 Member Posts: 1,222 ★★★★

    10k units through arena grind in a month is not possible FTP

    I'm just quoting from other players who claimed it's possible in a month but not sustainable every month
    Not possible
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,098 ★★★★

    It's not possible FTP

    10k units through arena grind in a month is not possible FTP

    I'm just quoting from other players who claimed it's possible in a month but not sustainable every month
    Maybe not for you bcos your account is small?

    I got unlimited champions to grind arenas with

    I tried before, the 4* champions cooldown is over even before I reach my last 4* rank 5 champion, I have 287 4* rank 5 champions and the cooldown is 2 hours not calculating the help from alliance members in cutting down the cooldown time
  • CandyCane2CandyCane2 Member Posts: 1,222 ★★★★

    It's not possible FTP

    10k units through arena grind in a month is not possible FTP

    I'm just quoting from other players who claimed it's possible in a month but not sustainable every month
    Maybe not for you bcos your account is small?

    I got unlimited champions to grind arenas with

    I tried before, the 4* champions cooldown is over even before I reach my last 4* rank 5 champion, I have 287 4* rank 5 champions and the cooldown is 2 hours not calculating the help from alliance members in cutting down the cooldown time
    Is this game really worth it to spend so many hours each day grinding boring arena?
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,098 ★★★★

    It's not possible FTP

    10k units through arena grind in a month is not possible FTP

    I'm just quoting from other players who claimed it's possible in a month but not sustainable every month
    Maybe not for you bcos your account is small?

    I got unlimited champions to grind arenas with

    I tried before, the 4* champions cooldown is over even before I reach my last 4* rank 5 champion, I have 287 4* rank 5 champions and the cooldown is 2 hours not calculating the help from alliance members in cutting down the cooldown time
    Is this game really worth it to spend so many hours each day grinding boring arena?
    I don't really grind arenas but I tried to see if I can run out of champions before the cooldown is done and I realised that I got unlimited champions to grind with

    In fact clicking for help for each champion individually is a waste of time bcos I got more than enough 4* champions even with 2 hours cooldown
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,098 ★★★★

    10k units through arena grind in a month is not possible FTP

    I'm just quoting from other players who claimed it's possible in a month but not sustainable every month
    Not possible
    DNA3000 said:

    The highest unit grind I seen in the forums so far is 8-9k units per month which is really commendable

    You have May and June, 2 months which means in theory you will reach at most 50% of your stated goal of 36k units

    500k battlechips yields about 1k units excluding arena milestones

    Is going above 9k units in a month not possible for f2p?
    It is possible, although I'm not sure it is sustainable for most players.

    It is a little dated now because it doesn't have things like the Radiance store or Valiant EQ, but I compiled a list of where all the units are normally in the game (outside of special events or things that did not have predictable quantities like double track events and stuff like that) here:

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/385738/how-to-get-units-in-mcoc-in-2025-its-like-2024-but-with-fewer-typos

    In a year you could get 70760 units per year from EQ, arena milestones and the DSE, which averages about 5900 units per month. With Val EQ we're at about 6050 units per month.

    The biggest source of units past that point would come from arena crystals. In theory a maniac player could earn a ton more units from those, but what is actually sustainable is subjective. I can say in my heavy grinding days I could earn more than twenty million BC in a year. My highest was about 22 million. The average units from arena crystals for that many BC would be about 41250 units, or about 3478 per month. That would get me to just shy of 9500 units per month in theory. This is a number I know I can sustainably reach, but in general I do not.

    I was not grinding 24 hours a day or anything: I was grinding a ton, but I was certainly not anywhere near what the heaviest grinders were putting out. My guess is someone who wanted to spend the bulk of their free time grinding and were putting in like eight hours a day on average could conceivably tack on at least 2k units per month through arena crystals, which would get them to about 11500 units per month. This is an enormous time commitment, but there are people who put that much time into their hobbies, gaming or otherwise. This is a level of effort featured grinders used to put in back in the day. I think I would lose feeling in my fingers after six months of this level of sustained effort.

    If you assume someone sleeps eight hours a day and works eight hours a day five days a week and otherwise has nothing else to do but grind, eat, and take occasional bathroom breaks, the theoretical F2P limit is probably around 15000 units per month total from all sources. This is a person who lives a normal life schedule except for the fact that all their free time would be going to MCOC and nothing else, and has a large enough roster, and titanium fingertips. This is not a limit I have any intention of ever testing practically.
    This is the source of my quote
  • CandyCane2CandyCane2 Member Posts: 1,222 ★★★★
    Yeah, I get that it’s technically possible, but honestly, being on the game for several hours a day every day is just mentally exhausting. After a while, it stops feeling like a game and starts to feel like a second job. Props to anyone who can keep that up, but I’d rather keep my sanity intact.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 6,289 ★★★★★
    10k a month is more than enough to max out all unit deals.

    Unfortunately 10k a month is simply not possible
    Unless ofc, Kabam gives that 4.5k units and 20k radiance compensation 😁
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,098 ★★★★

    Yeah, I get that it’s technically possible, but honestly, being on the game for several hours a day every day is just mentally exhausting. After a while, it stops feeling like a game and starts to feel like a second job. Props to anyone who can keep that up, but I’d rather keep my sanity intact.

    Which is why I wrote this forum post so players can make mcoc work for them

    Grinding arenas isn't the most efficient from my calculations
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,098 ★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    10k a month is more than enough to max out all unit deals.

    Unfortunately 10k a month is simply not possible
    Unless ofc, Kabam gives that 4.5k units and 20k radiance compensation 😁

    I don't think there is enough time between HoF and Heat wave sales to grind 39k units
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Member Posts: 2,088 ★★★★★


    7* Dark phoenix on the other hand is absolutely a strong defender in battlegrounds that withstood the test of time

    Imagine saying something has "withstood the test of time" that's existed in the contest for one month.
  • JESUSCHRISTJESUSCHRIST Member Posts: 2,098 ★★★★


    7* Dark phoenix on the other hand is absolutely a strong defender in battlegrounds that withstood the test of time

    Imagine saying something has "withstood the test of time" that's existed in the contest for one month.
    7* Dark phoenix is a staple for battlegrounds, 1 of the best stall defender in battlegrounds
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