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Centrifugal Mutilation: A Wheel of Fate Quest 3 guide

Grootman1294Grootman1294 Member Posts: 1,020 ★★★★
Welp, here we are. Final guide for the Wheel of Fate. And as the title suggests, mutilation was certainly committed. Little bit by me, little bit by the defenders, so let's jump into the carnage!

The Stash:
5908 units
8 L2 revives
21 L1 revives
2 L3 revives
2 L2 team revives (again, these aren't worth the extra cost so DO NOT use these if you can help it)
8 L5 potions and 23 L3 potions
912 free crystals
Bunch of 30 minute and 1 hour boosters

Masteries:
Same as my previous runs, so no suicides with willpower. Had 3/5 mystic dispersion for Juggernaut. Max despair is VERY helpful for Serpent.

Journey to Thanos:

Fight: Gorr
My Pick: 7* R3 sig 20 Juggernaut with 6* juggernaut relic
Deaths: 0
Basically a good ole Juggs nuke fest. Spam sp2s for big damage, know how to evade Gorr's sp1 and you'll get through it. When you use your relic, make sure to land a heavy attack so you can stagger his regen for a short bit.

Fight: Dazzler
My Pick: 7* R3 unduped Serpent with 5* ms marvel relic
Deaths: 0
Serpent's true focus completely counters the dazzling dash, so throw a special and then you can freely intercept to get rid of the dynamo charges. Bait sp1 at all costs and try to spam your sp1 to deal damage if you can help it.

Fight: Lady Deathstrike
My Pick: 7* R2 sig 60 Knull with 4* venom relic
Deaths: 1
NOTE: Was running 30 minute attack, health and champion boosters from this point on
Knull completely counters Deathstrike's armor ups so this one isn't too bad. Spam heavies while ramping up and spam sp3 to keep your corruption up. Time your dashes with the power timer and this one isn't too hard, did mess up here though.

Fight: Enchantress
My Pick: 7* R2 unduped Luke Cage with no relic
Deaths: 2
Play around the spells, and remember that Luke's heavy has delibitate which can counter one spell if you do mess up. Know how to evade the sp1 and you'll be fine, revive counter will greatly vary here depending on AI.

Fight: Thor Ragnarok
My Pick: 7* R2 sig 40 Angela with 4* thor relic
Deaths: 0
Very easy fight. Bait heavies to remove the brace buff when needed, and time your specials with his power gain. Stay aggressive so he doesn't hit 40 combo and you're set.

Fight: Arcade
My Pick: 7* R2 sig 80 Guilly 2099 with no relic
Deaths: 0
Do not use your pre fights here. Spam sp1 to power drain Arcade and minimize his special usage and you'll be set. Mind the stun immunity and heavy hands node and know the Arcade spacing.

Fight: Leader
My Pick: 7* R3 unduped Masacre with 5* winter soldier relic
Deaths: 0
Very easy fight, just be aware that you can't hit block too much when ramping Masacre or else you'll get your healing reversed. Stay aggressive, bait sp1 and you'll be good to go.

Fight: Bullseye
My Pick: 7* R2 unduped Jean Grey with no relic
Deaths: 0 (but damn it was close)
NOTE: Started running the big 1 hour attack, health and champion boosters from this point on
Was very worried about this fight, however Jean's force field and burst damage completely dealt with my worries. Jean doesn't counter the evade naturally, however her force field can tank a good chunk of the sp1 block damage and she can also apply delirium which reduces Bullseye's power gain. Use sp1 to ramp your neuros, then cash in on a huge sp2, and then rinse and repeat. Soloed this one by the skin of my teeth (had 3% health left), so expect a couple of revives here.

Fight: Torch
My Pick: 7* R2 sig 40 Superior Iron Man with no relic
Deaths: 0
SIM has very good incinerate resistance once he gets ramped, so just keep your buffs up and you'll be good to go. Remember to throw heavies in quick succession to minimize Torch's smoulder charges. Fire off some massive sp2s and you'll smash through this one.

Fight: Serpent
My Pick: 7* R2 sig 20 Kushala with 4* switch relic
Deaths: 1
You can block Serpent's unblockable specials with your blue dimension, so parry and keep that up at all times. I spammed sp1s to remove his power gain and keep his charges under control. Try not to dash back during Serpent's specials and you'll do okay here. Be aware of the massive power gain from the death immunity and try to have incinerates on him to counter the healing via despair. Bit of a scary one, so boost up and try to slug through it.

Fight: Spiral
My Pick: 7* R2 sig 80 Shuri with 3* hulkbuster relic
Deaths: 0
Spiral's fervors reduce the duration of your shock debuffs, however they don't affect your critical shock passives. To this end, spam sp1, mind the falter and combat deja vu, keep your passive shocks up, and make sure you're ready to deal with the automatic dancing blades if Spiral gets a special attack off. This one requires a lot of attention, so keep a good eye out and you'll be fine.

Fight: Dust
My Pick: 7* R2 sig 60 Gladiator with no relic
Deaths: 3
Spam heavies to ramp up your confidence buffs, and spam sp2 for the incinerates to counter the sand. Play around the unblockable and you'll be fine. My phone started overheating during this fight and I wasn't playing well so I died quite a bit here.

Fight: Thanos
My Pick: 7* R3 unduped Shathra with 6* switch relic
Deaths: 0
Shathra does Shathra things. Mind the reverse controls, bait sp1, and try to primarily use heavies and specials to minimize hits and prevent the unstoppable. Let the wasps do the work here and you'll be fine.

And that's it! Somehow ended up being my cheapest Wheel of Fate run!

The Final Cost:
7 L2 revives
40 free crystals for potions
Bunch of L3, L4 and L5 potions
A set each of full 30 minute and 1 hour boosters
Once again, not a single unit.

The Rewards:
Went for the Titan nexus from my selector, awakened Jack for the first time. Not bad, wanted a new champ though.
Pulled Hood from my 5 choice 7* crystal, very good.
Pulled a mystic AG from a crystal, put it into Tigra and will R3 her further down the road.
Took up Prowler with the T7 basic as my 4th R4 7*.

Opinions on this content:
I know this piece of content wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms, so I figured I'd throw my hat in the ring with my take on it.

Overall, I'm not a fan of this piece of content. While I think it was a cool idea to try and make it similar to a hard mode Crucible, I think the quest was doomed by a few things:
- Reward Distribution: There were a lot of top tier rewards (T7 basic, a full 7* AG crystal), but not much lower tier rewards which are still needed to progress (ie. lack of T6 basic and T3 alpha)
- Marketing: The quest was RIDICULOUSLY overhyped before launch. I refuse to believe that someone at Kabam thought this was the hardest quest ever made. Doesn't help that Kabam miscommunicated on the selector rewards as well.
- Repetitve and Restrictive Design: You have to deal with the exact same fights 3 times each, which makes it feel tedious and repetitive even with the gates. For those who don't have one of the few good counters, this just ends up scaring people away from this content.
- Content Niche: Following the above note, who was this even made for? I feel that the quest is very restrictive for the majority of players, and there are much easier ways to get R4 champs in this game (9.2 anyone?). Considering how fast the game's economy moves, for the people at the tippy top who have all the proper counters ranked and ready, the rewards will probably be obsolete within a couple of months anyways, especially with July 4th on the horizon.

This was content that came way too late in the game's economy and even then is still missing key resources that players need. I honestly believe that if this quest was the first way non-spenders could get a R4 7*, and if it had those additional lower tier resources, the reception would've been a lot more positive since the current design could at least be justified with the huge boost from the first non pay-walled R4.

I understand people might not agree with my sentiment, and that's fine. Just don't rip each other to pieces in the comments lol. This was meant to be a guide first and foremost.

Final Thoughts and Tips:
1. PLAN YOUR RUN. Some of these fights are very niche and can be a nightmare without the proper counters. Make sure you divvy up your champs accordingly. Fights are exactly the same as the previous 2 quests so do not expect any surprises.
2. Boost up. No need to say more.
3. Thread title may have been loosely inspired by "Aortic Desecration" by Dethklok. Love that track.

And with that, it's back to hibernation for me. Thanks for reading, and until Kabam wakes me up again, hope this helped y'all!

Comments

  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,730 ★★★★★
    Intercepting removes the Dynamo charges? Feel like an idiot
  • MystGMystG Member Posts: 151
    Questions:

    1. can r2 unduped crossbones do Lady Deathstrike well?
    2. can r3 duped domino do Leader well?
    3. can r2 duped Deathless guilly do Serpent?
    4. any best alternative for Dust? (I don't have gladiator)

    Appreciate the answers!
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 2,730 ★★★★★
    MystG said:

    Questions:

    1. can r2 unduped crossbones do Lady Deathstrike well?
    2. can r3 duped domino do Leader well?
    3. can r2 duped Deathless guilly do Serpent?
    4. any best alternative for Dust? (I don't have gladiator)

    Appreciate the answers!

    Anyone can do LDS. Just stick with sp3
    Anyone can do Leader. Stay close, learn to Dex his sp1, and if you are running low on health just parry and keep him close.
    Anyone can do Serpant. Ok maybe not really. Sure you *could* do it with guilly.

    I used Rintrah for Dust. He works. Used like 4 revives
  • horrendous_toohorrendous_too Member Posts: 277 ★★★
    MystG said:

    Questions:

    1. can r2 unduped crossbones do Lady Deathstrike well?
    2. can r3 duped domino do Leader well?
    3. can r2 duped Deathless guilly do Serpent?
    4. any best alternative for Dust? (I don't have gladiator)

    Appreciate the answers!

    I did leader with domino, she works fine. Died once, but that was due to my sucking not domino.
    I used an R1 purgatory for dust. Died 3x cause I kept forgetting about the unblockable, but once you ramp her up she will rip through dust.
  • MystGMystG Member Posts: 151
    edited June 19
    I think I'm gonna have to wait to pull Serpent and Knull. I was doing Dazzler with r2 Hyperion but it's a 20 min sloggy fight, then for Lady D my only option is Crossbones who barely does 2% damage per sp3. So Lady D is basically a roadblock for me.

    Once I'm past these two I can do the rest pretty reliably imo.

    For Serpent I'm thinking to use r3 onslaught, sp1 sp2 then just heavy refreshes. I'm assuming it'll be better than r2 Dgully. Thoughts?

    Don't have purgatory either, but I have a r3 Wwbn, so guess he'll work fine for dust?
  • MrSanguiniMrSanguini Member Posts: 195 ★★
    MystG said:

    I think I'm gonna have to wait to pull Serpent and Knull. I was doing Dazzler with r2 Hyperion but it's a 20 min sloggy fight, then for Lady D my only option is Crossbones who barely does 2% damage per sp3. So Lady D is basically a roadblock for me.

    Once I'm past these two I can do the rest pretty reliably imo.

    For Serpent I'm thinking to use r3 onslaught, sp1 sp2 then just heavy refreshes. I'm assuming it'll be better than r2 Dgully. Thoughts?

    Don't have purgatory either, but I have a r3 Wwbn, so guess he'll work fine for dust?

    I also had Hyperion for Dazzler, but mine was rank 1. Took 6 revives but it was worth it considering how I went on to solo almost all the other fights.

    If Hyperion vs Dazzler is your main roadblock, I’d say just thug it out.
  • MystGMystG Member Posts: 151
    edited June 20
    Well I did it. The primary roadblock was Lady D for me, Dazzler i was consistently soloeing with r2 hype, just a sloggy 20 minute fight.

    Initially I was thinking to wait until I pulled Knull for ladyD, but that can practically take years so I decided to go with r2 crossbones & revive spam.

    This was my first time using him, but once I got in the rhythm of heavy punishing he crushed the fight. Used two revives only.

    The run was pretty cheap compared to quest 1 (quest 2 was the easiest for me). But I finally got my hands on the serpent so happy about it!

    Though I'm completely out of rank up mats for a while now so he'll need to wait to see the light of the day.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,448 ★★★★★
    @MystG who did you use for serpent?

    I don't have kush, wondering who can take out serpent. Wolfie r2 or onslut r3 maybe?
  • Mismag822Mismag822 Member Posts: 82

    @MystG who did you use for serpent?

    I don't have kush, wondering who can take out serpent. Wolfie r2 or onslut r3 maybe?

    I used r4 onslaught for him and it took me 2 revives. It was way better than I thought.

    At the start of the fight and whenever he gets the power gain stay close without hitting him and let it expire. If you do this the fight is manageable.
  • MystGMystG Member Posts: 151

    @MystG who did you use for serpent?

    I don't have kush, wondering who can take out serpent. Wolfie r2 or onslut r3 maybe?

    r3 Onslaught. Spent 3 revives only but I'd call it a hard fight. High chances of messing up because of the power gain and block damage. 2 out of my 4 runs I couldn't even apply the sp2 degens ( or keep them paused), cuz the serpent stays super aggressive and keeps throwing specials (and eventually corners you)

    Best way would be to stay super aggressive, don't bait too many sp1s because he'll have the next ready by the time you heavy him
  • SambobSambob Member Posts: 66 ★★

    MystG said:

    Questions:

    1. can r2 unduped crossbones do Lady Deathstrike well?
    2. can r3 duped domino do Leader well?
    3. can r2 duped Deathless guilly do Serpent?
    4. any best alternative for Dust? (I don't have gladiator)

    Appreciate the answers!

    Anyone can do LDS. Just stick with sp3
    Anyone can do Leader. Stay close, learn to Dex his sp1, and if you are running low on health just parry and keep him close.
    Anyone can do Serpant. Ok maybe not really. Sure you *could* do it with guilly.

    I used Rintrah for Dust. He works. Used like 4 revives
    What was the strategy for rintrah vs dust?
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,592 ★★★★★
    OP, I can’t believe you solo’d Arcade with a r2 G99. Probably took me five revives. The block damage just destroyed her.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,448 ★★★★★

    OP, I can’t believe you solo’d Arcade with a r2 G99. Probably took me five revives. The block damage just destroyed her.

    Prolly he fully boosted
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 7,959 ★★★★★

    OP, I can’t believe you solo’d Arcade with a r2 G99. Probably took me five revives. The block damage just destroyed her.

    Prolly he fully boosted
    I soloed with smaller boosts.
    R2 guilly with goblin relic for more sp1s.
    There was a lot of dashing back to left side of the screen, go attack take him to his corner and repeat. Treat it like the guilly necro carina.

    I had 100+ of the boosts so I spammed the smaller boosts. (10 15 10)
  • Grootman1294Grootman1294 Member Posts: 1,020 ★★★★

    OP, I can’t believe you solo’d Arcade with a r2 G99. Probably took me five revives. The block damage just destroyed her.

    I had a full set of 30 minute boosters on. Had to pull off some clutch intercepts and nearly triggered the self repair for it to happen.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,448 ★★★★★
    MystG said:

    @MystG who did you use for serpent?

    I don't have kush, wondering who can take out serpent. Wolfie r2 or onslut r3 maybe?

    r3 Onslaught. Spent 3 revives only but I'd call it a hard fight. High chances of messing up because of the power gain and block damage. 2 out of my 4 runs I couldn't even apply the sp2 degens ( or keep them paused), cuz the serpent stays super aggressive and keeps throwing specials (and eventually corners you)

    Best way would be to stay super aggressive, don't bait too many sp1s because he'll have the next ready by the time you heavy him
    I did the quest today. R3 onslaught worked pretty well, did itin 3 revives thanks.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,448 ★★★★★
    Sambob said:

    MystG said:

    Questions:

    1. can r2 unduped crossbones do Lady Deathstrike well?
    2. can r3 duped domino do Leader well?
    3. can r2 duped Deathless guilly do Serpent?
    4. any best alternative for Dust? (I don't have gladiator)

    Appreciate the answers!

    Anyone can do LDS. Just stick with sp3
    Anyone can do Leader. Stay close, learn to Dex his sp1, and if you are running low on health just parry and keep him close.
    Anyone can do Serpant. Ok maybe not really. Sure you *could* do it with guilly.

    I used Rintrah for Dust. He works. Used like 4 revives
    What was the strategy for rintrah vs dust?
    Just keep attacking, throw some sp2s etc. it'll definitely take a few revives.
  • Mixtapevol02Mixtapevol02 Member Posts: 186 ★★
    edited July 9
    I don’t have photon, so only have Luke, but if I use Luke on enchantress then I can’t use him for Torch.

    Will White Tiger be good for enchantress?

    Or will Deadpool x-force / Venom be good for Torch, though he is bleed immune?

    Are there any other options for these 2 fights or am I cooked?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,448 ★★★★★

    I don’t have photon, so only have Luke, but if I use Luke on enchantress then I can’t use him for Torch.

    Will White Tiger be good for enchantress?

    Or will Deadpool x-force / Venom be good for Torch, though he is bleed immune?

    Are there any other options for these 2 fights or am I cooked?

    Do you have superior Ironman? Or any other rchamp who can inflict lots of debuffs. You just need someone inflict lots of debuffs against torch, venom and dpx won't work.
  • Mixtapevol02Mixtapevol02 Member Posts: 186 ★★

    I don’t have photon, so only have Luke, but if I use Luke on enchantress then I can’t use him for Torch.

    Will White Tiger be good for enchantress?

    Or will Deadpool x-force / Venom be good for Torch, though he is bleed immune?

    Are there any other options for these 2 fights or am I cooked?

    Do you have superior Ironman? Or any other rchamp who can inflict lots of debuffs. You just need someone inflict lots of debuffs against torch, venom and dpx won't work.


    This is who I have for Torch



  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,448 ★★★★★

    I don’t have photon, so only have Luke, but if I use Luke on enchantress then I can’t use him for Torch.

    Will White Tiger be good for enchantress?

    Or will Deadpool x-force / Venom be good for Torch, though he is bleed immune?

    Are there any other options for these 2 fights or am I cooked?

    Do you have superior Ironman? Or any other rchamp who can inflict lots of debuffs. You just need someone inflict lots of debuffs against torch, venom and dpx won't work.


    This is who I have for Torch



    I've seen few people using war machine (sp1 spam). Or you can use luke here and use wiger for enchantress. It is just a standard enchantress fight if you wanna minimize revives learn how to consistently dex her sp1.
  • Mixtapevol02Mixtapevol02 Member Posts: 186 ★★
    Yea not looking too good. But will wait to see if I can pull a better option while I stock up on revives. Thanks for your help
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