This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
You're not competitive to begin with, if you were you wouldn't whine about people having bigger decks than yours in BGs 🤡
As for all the whining, if you don't like it don't do it, miss out on the rewards nobody's forcing you to do anything you don't want to do lol.
you’re the same guy who said 'i don’t care if the content is trash, just make it easy and give me rewards' — so yeah, we’re clearly not expecting thoughtful takes from you. some of us actually care about the game staying good.
If it's a monthly quest yes I don't care cause monthly quests have been trash for years regardless. At least the rewards finally improved since they clearly can't keep monthly side quests interesting without making them repetitive and grindy. Also before you take this out of context again, I don't think Doom Cycle is trash I like mini games in general, what I didn't like was how grindy it was.
All endgame content done and you're struggling in Arcane? Like I said, you're not competitive to begin with stop pretending you are lmfao.
you keep obsessing over whether i’m competitive like i specifically even said i was — i never claimed to be. i’m pointing out a design flaw that affects everyone who plays this game seriously. if your only filter for feedback is ‘you not competitive bruh lmfao bruh,’ maybe you’re not actually equipped with the mental aptitude to have this conversation.
Good so we got that out of the way, you're not competitive, you just whine about BGs constantly.
I play this game seriously, so do other people you just can't fathom the fact that some people actually liked something you disliked. You have the mental aptitude of a six year old, grow up and accept that some people will like the things you don't like, which is perfectly fine.
i said competitive players (not just bg players, players who want to stay at the top of the game for wars and join top alliances with all of the new meta characters ranked up) are being forced into bad content with top-tier rewards. you somehow turned that into a bg rant, made it personal, ignored all context, and still think you’re making a point. you’re not.
The thing is, I personally don't think it was bad, it was meh, neither good nor bad. Someone else said they liked it and you told them they have Stockholm Syndrome lmfao you want everyone on these forums to agree with you. You're not looking for a debate or a discussion cause you've already made up your mind.
how do you have a discussion when every reply boils down to ‘you don’t have to do it’? that’s not an argument, it’s a dodge. if no one pushed back on bad content, we’d be swimming in it. disagreeing isn’t the issue — refusing to engage with the actual point is.
Because if you didn't like it then you really don't, I was okay with it personally so I did it, a bit too grindy for my liking and got repetitive pretty quickly but I still feel like it was alright for me personally. If you don't agree then agree to disagree and stop trying to tell people they're wrong for liking something you obviously didn't like lol nobody here tried forcing their views on you. You didn't like it and you think the content is trash fine, that's your opinion.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
No one is forced to do it.
you're not forced to brush your teeth either, but there are consequences if you don't
Consequences to missing a couple 7*s, some 2* Doombots, a few Units, and a Titan? I'd be curious to know what they are.
They are the consequences lol.
There definitely are consequences but it's not like he's missing out on a r4 or even a r3. Op is acting like he is 100% forced to grind for the rewards even if he doesn't like the game mode, he's not at all, the rewards aren't really game changing. They're insane considering how easy the mode is but I'm sure he'll survive if he doesn't go for them.
it's about not rewarding lazy, off-brand content so kabam doesn’t keep pushing MORE of it. you thinking ‘it’s not that bad’ is exactly why it’ll keep happening.
not whether or not i need to do it to get it the rewards, i don’t think we need any more content like this in the game.
Like I said, you can't fathom the fact that some of us genuinely didn't dislike it and are leaning more towards "it was alright". Anyone who doesn't share the same views as you on this matter is wrong.
okay so let me break it down like this, your whole take hinges on “i didn’t hate it, so it’s fine,” as well as some others like you say. you are completely missing the bigger issue: this kind of low-effort, off-brand content sets a dangerous precedent. when enough people passively accept it — or worse, defend it — kabam takes that as green light to make more of it. that’s how quality erodes.
it’s not about “was it fun for you,” it’s about what it means for the future of the game. if no one pushes back, this becomes the new standard — shallow mechanics, forced time gates, and bloated monetization disguised with flashy rewards
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
Yap yap yap. Go back to complaining about not being able to reparry
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
this analogy is hilariously bad.
you didn’t just pick a different pie, kabam made pumpkin pie the only one on the shelf, wrapped it in gold foil, and said “this is the best slice in the shop... but only if you pay extra and pretend to enjoy it.”
this isn't about preference — it's about bad content being padded with great rewards to manipulate engagement, and your "i'm fine with it" attitude is exactly what guarantees we get more of it.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
this analogy is hilariously bad.
you didn’t just pick a different pie, kabam made pumpkin pie the only one on the shelf, wrapped it in gold foil, and said “this is the best slice in the shop... but only if you pay extra and pretend to enjoy it.”
this isn't about preference — it's about bad content being padded with great rewards to manipulate engagement, and your "i'm fine with it" attitude is exactly what guarantees we get more of it.
How is arcade the only pie on Kabam's shelf? There's a ton of other stuff on the shelf. War, BG, story, arena, special quests, casino poker, etc....
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
You keep saying paywalled for some weird reason, let's actually do the math for a second so you can stop calling it that cause it's not paywalled at all if you strategize properly your masteries, spending speeds up the process yes but it's not 100% necessary. You get 3 entries a day and the event lasts 29 days, that's 87 entries in total, 59 of those entries need to be spent on shatter mode alone for the Titan which leaves you with 28 entries left for the rest of the chapters. This means you have 3 entries in total for each chapter other than shatter mode which if you actually use your brain when upgrading a character with masteries is more than enough, you really shouldn't be dying on the same chapter more than twice if you focusing on upgrading one single character first and then slowly upgrade the rest for the other objectives and even if you are, you will still have 4 more entries left in case you made a couple extra mistakes on a certain chapter.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
Yap yap yap. Go back to complaining about not being able to reparry
Bro, my F2P alt is in mysterium right now while you claim BGs is rigged and that casino poker requires skill and strategy. Stop trying to engage with me you pathetic loser, lol...
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
No one is forced to do it.
you're not forced to brush your teeth either, but there are consequences if you don't
Consequences to missing a couple 7*s, some 2* Doombots, a few Units, and a Titan? I'd be curious to know what they are.
They are the consequences lol.
There definitely are consequences but it's not like he's missing out on a r4 or even a r3. Op is acting like he is 100% forced to grind for the rewards even if he doesn't like the game mode, he's not at all, the rewards aren't really game changing. They're insane considering how easy the mode is but I'm sure he'll survive if he doesn't go for them.
it's about not rewarding lazy, off-brand content so kabam doesn’t keep pushing MORE of it. you thinking ‘it’s not that bad’ is exactly why it’ll keep happening.
not whether or not i need to do it to get it the rewards, i don’t think we need any more content like this in the game.
Like I said, you can't fathom the fact that some of us genuinely didn't dislike it and are leaning more towards "it was alright". Anyone who doesn't share the same views as you on this matter is wrong.
okay so let me break it down like this, your whole take hinges on “i didn’t hate it, so it’s fine,” as well as some others like you say. you are completely missing the bigger issue: this kind of low-effort, off-brand content sets a dangerous precedent. when enough people passively accept it — or worse, defend it — kabam takes that as green light to make more of it. that’s how quality erodes.
it’s not about “was it fun for you,” it’s about what it means for the future of the game. if no one pushes back, this becomes the new standard — shallow mechanics, forced time gates, and bloated monetization disguised with flashy rewards
can you understand that?
Why wouldn't I accept if if I think it was alright? I liked it personally, I didn't think it was great but it was alright for, tell me what reason I could possibly have to not accept it and defend it if to me it wasn't a bad mode all things considered?
This is what I mean by you can't respect other people's opinions and are trying to force your views on everyone else. I don't see the game mode the way you describe it, and I absolutely wouldn't have an issue with it being the new standard as long as rewards are structured the same way and the mini games are made a little less grindy and repetitive.
Can you understand that and just agree to disagree?
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
this analogy is hilariously bad.
you didn’t just pick a different pie, kabam made pumpkin pie the only one on the shelf, wrapped it in gold foil, and said “this is the best slice in the shop... but only if you pay extra and pretend to enjoy it.”
this isn't about preference — it's about bad content being padded with great rewards to manipulate engagement, and your "i'm fine with it" attitude is exactly what guarantees we get more of it.
How is arcade the only pie on Kabam's shelf? There's a ton of other stuff on the shelf. War, BG, story, arena, special quests, casino poker, etc....
because kabam stuffed this pie with 20k titan shards and units, for players who’ve already done all the meaningful content, we wait months just to be handed this off-brand, low-effort junk and if you praise it now, don’t cry later when this becomes the new standard.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
Yap yap yap. Go back to complaining about not being able to reparry
Yap yap yap. Go back to complaining about getting stomped by bigger accounts in BGs.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
this analogy is hilariously bad.
you didn’t just pick a different pie, kabam made pumpkin pie the only one on the shelf, wrapped it in gold foil, and said “this is the best slice in the shop... but only if you pay extra and pretend to enjoy it.”
this isn't about preference — it's about bad content being padded with great rewards to manipulate engagement, and your "i'm fine with it" attitude is exactly what guarantees we get more of it.
How is arcade the only pie on Kabam's shelf? There's a ton of other stuff on the shelf. War, BG, story, arena, special quests, casino poker, etc....
because kabam stuffed this pie with 20k titan shards and units, for players who’ve already done all the meaningful content, we wait months just to be handed this off-brand, low-effort junk and if you praise it now, don’t cry later when this becomes the new standard.
But see, that's part of the explanation. It is low effort for Kabam to put out, and low effort for us to do. So it's not replacing the high-effort stuff Kabam does, it's just something extra that took them very little resources to produce. If you hate it, just don't play it, that's your best way of signalling to Kabam you don't like it. For me, I'm sorry, but I'm a resource junkie, if it's easy with great rewards, sign me up. Now if this arcade replaces BGs or Everest content, then I'll just stop playing MCOC, but I don't see that as even a theoretical possibility.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
Yap yap yap. Go back to complaining about not being able to reparry
Bro, my F2P alt is in mysterium right now while you claim BGs is rigged and that casino poker requires skill and strategy. Stop trying to engage with me you pathetic loser, lol...
I don't think he even plays BGs at all, he's scared of bigger accounts so he just avoids BGs at all costs.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
this analogy is hilariously bad.
you didn’t just pick a different pie, kabam made pumpkin pie the only one on the shelf, wrapped it in gold foil, and said “this is the best slice in the shop... but only if you pay extra and pretend to enjoy it.”
this isn't about preference — it's about bad content being padded with great rewards to manipulate engagement, and your "i'm fine with it" attitude is exactly what guarantees we get more of it.
How is arcade the only pie on Kabam's shelf? There's a ton of other stuff on the shelf. War, BG, story, arena, special quests, casino poker, etc....
because kabam stuffed this pie with 20k titan shards and units, for players who’ve already done all the meaningful content, we wait months just to be handed this off-brand, low-effort junk and if you praise it now, don’t cry later when this becomes the new standard.
They literally said mini games like this one won't take up resources from anywhere else due to how easy it is to design them. We will still be getting endgame content at the same pace we've been getting it, this won't affect anything in the game and it's not replacing endgame content we're literally getting the new Crucible soon and we just got WoF two months ago.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
You keep saying paywalled for some weird reason, let's actually do the math for a second so you can stop calling it that cause it's not paywalled at all if you strategize properly your masteries, spending speeds up the process yes but it's not 100% necessary. You get 3 entries a day and the event lasts 29 days, that's 87 entries in total, 59 of those entries need to be spent on shatter mode alone for the Titan which leaves you with 28 entries left for the rest of the chapters. This means you have 3 entries in total for each chapter other than shatter mode which if you actually use your brain when upgrading a character with masteries is more than enough, you really shouldn't be dying on the same chapter more than twice if you focusing on upgrading one single character first and then slowly upgrade the rest for the other objectives and even if you are, you will still have 4 more entries left in case you made a couple extra mistakes on a certain chapter.
you’re missing the entire point — it’s not about whether it’s doable, it’s about how kabam is monetizing frustration by time-gating a boring, low-effort mode and selling arcade tickets to skip the wait. the design is built around people getting annoyed enough to pay, not around fun.
kabam didn’t offer paid tickets by accident — they knew the mode was boring and slow enough that people would want to skip it. it’s not pay-to-win, it’s pay-to-stop-being-annoyed. that’s how they monetize frustration, it’s psychological manipulation.
they know people value their time, especially in a mode that feels slow, repetitive, or annoying. so they drag it out just enough that paying to speed things up feels like relief.
so yes it’s an indirect paywall dressed up as a player choice.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
You keep saying paywalled for some weird reason, let's actually do the math for a second so you can stop calling it that cause it's not paywalled at all if you strategize properly your masteries, spending speeds up the process yes but it's not 100% necessary. You get 3 entries a day and the event lasts 29 days, that's 87 entries in total, 59 of those entries need to be spent on shatter mode alone for the Titan which leaves you with 28 entries left for the rest of the chapters. This means you have 3 entries in total for each chapter other than shatter mode which if you actually use your brain when upgrading a character with masteries is more than enough, you really shouldn't be dying on the same chapter more than twice if you focusing on upgrading one single character first and then slowly upgrade the rest for the other objectives and even if you are, you will still have 4 more entries left in case you made a couple extra mistakes on a certain chapter.
you’re missing the entire point — it’s not about whether it’s doable, it’s about how kabam is monetizing frustration by time-gating a boring, low-effort mode and selling arcade tickets to skip the wait. the design is built around people getting annoyed enough to pay, not around fun.
kabam didn’t offer paid tickets by accident — they knew the mode was boring and slow enough that people would want to skip it. it’s not pay-to-win, it’s pay-to-stop-being-annoyed. that’s how they monetize frustration, it’s psychological manipulation.
they know people value their time, especially in a mode that feels slow, repetitive, or annoying. so they drag it out just enough that paying to speed things up feels like relief.
so yes it’s an indirect paywall dressed up as a player choice.
No it is not, you can't just change the meaning of words as you see fit lol paywall literally means restricting access to content with either a purchase or a paid subscription, you can't just change the meaning of a word. Nothing here is being restricted to you if you don't pay, the objectives are easy to complete if you just wait and play the way it was intended to play. The tickets you buy are just a shortcut and that's the word you should be using here because they are not a resource you absolutely need, they're optional if you're not a patient person.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
I was happy with the rewards I got for $7 and minimal effort. If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares? I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it. I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
this analogy is hilariously bad.
you didn’t just pick a different pie, kabam made pumpkin pie the only one on the shelf, wrapped it in gold foil, and said “this is the best slice in the shop... but only if you pay extra and pretend to enjoy it.”
this isn't about preference — it's about bad content being padded with great rewards to manipulate engagement, and your "i'm fine with it" attitude is exactly what guarantees we get more of it.
How is arcade the only pie on Kabam's shelf? There's a ton of other stuff on the shelf. War, BG, story, arena, special quests, casino poker, etc....
because kabam stuffed this pie with 20k titan shards and units, for players who’ve already done all the meaningful content, we wait months just to be handed this off-brand, low-effort junk and if you praise it now, don’t cry later when this becomes the new standard.
But see, that's part of the explanation. It is low effort for Kabam to put out, and low effort for us to do. So it's not replacing the high-effort stuff Kabam does, it's just something extra that took them very little resources to produce. If you hate it, just don't play it, that's your best way of signalling to Kabam you don't like it. For me, I'm sorry, but I'm a resource junkie, if it's easy with great rewards, sign me up. Now if this arcade replaces BGs or Everest content, then I'll just stop playing MCOC, but I don't see that as even a theoretical possibility.
kabam isn’t just tossing out a random side mode — they’re testing player tolerance.
this arcade event is a soft prototype. it lets them see:
how many players will engage with low-effort, off-brand content
how many will spend to bypass slow, annoying progression and whether they can wrap grindy design in “easy rewards” and still profit
if we accept this, they’ll take it as a green light to scale it up — more modes like this, more monetized time-gates, and fewer meaningful additions.
it’s not about “just don’t play it” — it’s about sending the right signal before this becomes the standard.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
You keep saying paywalled for some weird reason, let's actually do the math for a second so you can stop calling it that cause it's not paywalled at all if you strategize properly your masteries, spending speeds up the process yes but it's not 100% necessary. You get 3 entries a day and the event lasts 29 days, that's 87 entries in total, 59 of those entries need to be spent on shatter mode alone for the Titan which leaves you with 28 entries left for the rest of the chapters. This means you have 3 entries in total for each chapter other than shatter mode which if you actually use your brain when upgrading a character with masteries is more than enough, you really shouldn't be dying on the same chapter more than twice if you focusing on upgrading one single character first and then slowly upgrade the rest for the other objectives and even if you are, you will still have 4 more entries left in case you made a couple extra mistakes on a certain chapter.
you’re missing the entire point — it’s not about whether it’s doable, it’s about how kabam is monetizing frustration by time-gating a boring, low-effort mode and selling arcade tickets to skip the wait. the design is built around people getting annoyed enough to pay, not around fun.
kabam didn’t offer paid tickets by accident — they knew the mode was boring and slow enough that people would want to skip it. it’s not pay-to-win, it’s pay-to-stop-being-annoyed. that’s how they monetize frustration, it’s psychological manipulation.
they know people value their time, especially in a mode that feels slow, repetitive, or annoying. so they drag it out just enough that paying to speed things up feels like relief.
so yes it’s an indirect paywall dressed up as a player choice.
No it is not, you can't just change the meaning of words as you see fit lol paywall literally means restricting access to content with either a purchase or a paid subscription, you can't just change the meaning of a word. Nothing here is being restricted to you if you don't pay, the objectives are easy to complete if you just wait and play the way it was intended to play. The tickets you buy are just a shortcut and that's the word you should be using here because they are not a resource you absolutely need, they're optional if you're not a patient person.
no one’s changing definitions — you’re just ignoring how modern monetization works.
a hard paywall restricts access entirely.
a soft paywall — which is what this is — deliberately designs the experience to be slow, tedious, and frustrating unless you pay. that’s not “optional,” that’s psychological manipulation.
kabam didn’t sell us value — they sold us relief from their own artificial grind.
that’s the whole point: the mode was built in a way that incentivizes payment by making the free path annoying, not inaccessible. that is a paywall — just in the form of time, not a locked door. and that distinction? it's the exact kind of thing games exploit now because players like you pretend it's not happening.
Not really sure how this gets overblown. Kabam never dictated how this game is played. You pay, you dont pay, can still play the game for free. Cant really expect anything more for a free game
Gotta try to look at both sides. Cant deny it was nice mini game mode, less grindy with generous rewards.
This thread seems to be getting unnecessarily nasty and personal. Ultimately, if the rewards for the equivalent of clicking though 40 minutes of ads earns one an in-game reward they feel worth it, all the griping in the world won't dissuade a bean counter to point at that ROI and demand more. Moreover, kudos to kabam for realizing they can farm out game mode development to the iDtech programming summer camp equivalents for low-no cost content that doesn't touch anything expensive and lifts right out upon completion. But yes, by all means if you feel strongly about such things, that's what a forum is for.
Not really sure how this gets overblown. Kabam never dictated how this game is played. You pay, you dont pay, can still play the game for free. Cant really expect anything more for a free game
kabam absolutely dictates how the game is played. they control the content, rewards, pacing, and monetization structure. just because you can play for free doesn’t mean the experience is fair or healthy.
this isn’t about paying vs not paying, it’s about designing content around frustration to push spending, which is manipulative. saying “it’s free so deal with it” is a lazy excuse that ignores how predatory systems thrive when players stop asking for better.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
You keep saying paywalled for some weird reason, let's actually do the math for a second so you can stop calling it that cause it's not paywalled at all if you strategize properly your masteries, spending speeds up the process yes but it's not 100% necessary. You get 3 entries a day and the event lasts 29 days, that's 87 entries in total, 59 of those entries need to be spent on shatter mode alone for the Titan which leaves you with 28 entries left for the rest of the chapters. This means you have 3 entries in total for each chapter other than shatter mode which if you actually use your brain when upgrading a character with masteries is more than enough, you really shouldn't be dying on the same chapter more than twice if you focusing on upgrading one single character first and then slowly upgrade the rest for the other objectives and even if you are, you will still have 4 more entries left in case you made a couple extra mistakes on a certain chapter.
you’re missing the entire point — it’s not about whether it’s doable, it’s about how kabam is monetizing frustration by time-gating a boring, low-effort mode and selling arcade tickets to skip the wait. the design is built around people getting annoyed enough to pay, not around fun.
kabam didn’t offer paid tickets by accident — they knew the mode was boring and slow enough that people would want to skip it. it’s not pay-to-win, it’s pay-to-stop-being-annoyed. that’s how they monetize frustration, it’s psychological manipulation.
they know people value their time, especially in a mode that feels slow, repetitive, or annoying. so they drag it out just enough that paying to speed things up feels like relief.
so yes it’s an indirect paywall dressed up as a player choice.
No it is not, you can't just change the meaning of words as you see fit lol paywall literally means restricting access to content with either a purchase or a paid subscription, you can't just change the meaning of a word. Nothing here is being restricted to you if you don't pay, the objectives are easy to complete if you just wait and play the way it was intended to play. The tickets you buy are just a shortcut and that's the word you should be using here because they are not a resource you absolutely need, they're optional if you're not a patient person.
no one’s changing definitions — you’re just ignoring how modern monetization works.
a hard paywall restricts access entirely.
a soft paywall — which is what this is — deliberately designs the experience to be slow, tedious, and frustrating unless you pay. that’s not “optional,” that’s psychological manipulation.
kabam didn’t sell us value — they sold us relief from their own artificial grind.
that’s the whole point: the mode was built in a way that incentivizes payment by making the free path annoying, not inaccessible. that is a paywall — just in the form of time, not a locked door. and that distinction? it's the exact kind of thing games exploit now because players like you pretend it's not happening.
That's not what a soft paywall is, a soft paywall limits access to some content but still allows you to engage with some of the content for free. Like I said, you are delusional and so fixated on pushing your views on everyone else that you're even attempting to argue against a valid point by changing the meaning of a word completely. This isn't a paywall no matter how you spin it, and how many Bibles you type about how the word can have a different meaning (it doesn't) if you add a different word before it because modern monetization bla bla bla. The tickets are simply a shortcut, they are not a paywall and by definition you are wrong, grab a dictionary and stop trying to modify the English language as you see fit lol.
This thread seems to be getting unnecessarily nasty and personal. Ultimately, if the rewards for the equivalent of clicking though 40 minutes of ads earns one an in-game reward they feel worth it, all the griping in the world won't dissuade a bean counter to point at that ROI and demand more. Moreover, kudos to kabam for realizing they can farm out game mode development to the iDtech programming summer camp equivalents for low-no cost content that doesn't touch anything expensive and lifts right out upon completion. But yes, by all means if you feel strongly about such things, that's what a forum is for.
You're absolutely right that bean counters don’t care about sentiment — they care about engagement and ROI. That’s exactly why speaking up does matter. If everyone quietly clicks through “40 minutes of ads” and shrugs because the rewards were decent, then yes, this becomes the new standard.
But that’s the problem: it normalizes low-effort, off-brand content propped up by FOMO and monetized impatience. It’s not about whether we can ignore it — it’s about whether we should let Kabam think this kind of design is acceptable long-term. The forum exists for feedback, and this is it.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
No one is forced to do it.
you're not forced to brush your teeth either, but there are consequences if you don't
Consequences to missing a couple 7*s, some 2* Doombots, a few Units, and a Titan? I'd be curious to know what they are.
They are the consequences lol.
That's not what I would call consequences for not playing it. Furthermore, people are always asking for more Rewards for doing less. This is less involved than Auto Play.
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
You keep saying paywalled for some weird reason, let's actually do the math for a second so you can stop calling it that cause it's not paywalled at all if you strategize properly your masteries, spending speeds up the process yes but it's not 100% necessary. You get 3 entries a day and the event lasts 29 days, that's 87 entries in total, 59 of those entries need to be spent on shatter mode alone for the Titan which leaves you with 28 entries left for the rest of the chapters. This means you have 3 entries in total for each chapter other than shatter mode which if you actually use your brain when upgrading a character with masteries is more than enough, you really shouldn't be dying on the same chapter more than twice if you focusing on upgrading one single character first and then slowly upgrade the rest for the other objectives and even if you are, you will still have 4 more entries left in case you made a couple extra mistakes on a certain chapter.
you’re missing the entire point — it’s not about whether it’s doable, it’s about how kabam is monetizing frustration by time-gating a boring, low-effort mode and selling arcade tickets to skip the wait. the design is built around people getting annoyed enough to pay, not around fun.
kabam didn’t offer paid tickets by accident — they knew the mode was boring and slow enough that people would want to skip it. it’s not pay-to-win, it’s pay-to-stop-being-annoyed. that’s how they monetize frustration, it’s psychological manipulation.
they know people value their time, especially in a mode that feels slow, repetitive, or annoying. so they drag it out just enough that paying to speed things up feels like relief.
so yes it’s an indirect paywall dressed up as a player choice.
No it is not, you can't just change the meaning of words as you see fit lol paywall literally means restricting access to content with either a purchase or a paid subscription, you can't just change the meaning of a word. Nothing here is being restricted to you if you don't pay, the objectives are easy to complete if you just wait and play the way it was intended to play. The tickets you buy are just a shortcut and that's the word you should be using here because they are not a resource you absolutely need, they're optional if you're not a patient person.
no one’s changing definitions — you’re just ignoring how modern monetization works.
a hard paywall restricts access entirely.
a soft paywall — which is what this is — deliberately designs the experience to be slow, tedious, and frustrating unless you pay. that’s not “optional,” that’s psychological manipulation.
kabam didn’t sell us value — they sold us relief from their own artificial grind.
that’s the whole point: the mode was built in a way that incentivizes payment by making the free path annoying, not inaccessible. that is a paywall — just in the form of time, not a locked door. and that distinction? it's the exact kind of thing games exploit now because players like you pretend it's not happening.
That's not what a soft paywall is, a soft paywall limits access to some content but still allows you to engage with some of the content for free. Like I said, you are delusional and so fixated on pushing your views on everyone else that you're even attempting to argue against a valid point by changing the meaning of a word completely. This isn't a paywall no matter how you spin it, and how many Bibles you type about how the word can have a different meaning (it doesn't) if you add a different word before it because modern monetization bla bla bla. The tickets are simply a shortcut, they are not a paywall and by definition you are wrong, grab a dictionary and stop trying to modify the English language as you see fit lol.
you have repeatedly ignored the actual argument in favor of semantic nitpicking — which is exactly what people do when they know they’re losing on substance. whether you call it a “soft paywall,” “timegate,” or “strategic monetization,” the point stands: kabam intentionally designed boring, repetitive content and layered in paid shortcuts because they know some players will pay to skip it.
the definition game doesn’t change the fact that kabam profits off manufactured frustration. if you want to argue about dictionaries while they slowly replace effort with engagement farming, be my guest — i am going to call it what it is.
Not really sure how this gets overblown. Kabam never dictated how this game is played. You pay, you dont pay, can still play the game for free. Cant really expect anything more for a free game
kabam absolutely dictates how the game is played. they control the content, rewards, pacing, and monetization structure. just because you can play for free doesn’t mean the experience is fair or healthy.
this isn’t about paying vs not paying, it’s about designing content around frustration to push spending, which is manipulative. saying “it’s free so deal with it” is a lazy excuse that ignores how predatory systems thrive when players stop asking for better.
Look man i hear you. Been in the game for 7+ years. And honestly it never felt that way to me. I buy little stuff occasionally because its fun and want to support kabam. But never to a point to make me feel too invested. Im afraid once i cross that, it might take away the fun and make things bit personal.
You also gotta understand Kabam is business. Theyre making game sustainable for everyone and expand to other audience. In grand scheme of things, the point is to be creative to really push spending. Let them do their thing and have fun with your own, dont worry bout missing out
This thread seems to be getting unnecessarily nasty and personal
It's literally any thread with the zola guy, just waste of time arguing. I agree with OP for the most part, they have a point and those baffled by simple, valid criticism are just making it worse without realising. Kabam utilizes fomo really well and we can't deny it, they get you to spend no matter how little. I don't think its healthy for the game quality and balance in the long term but you can see that same people who'll complain the other day support it today so fair play I guess?
I'm ready for the "Didn't you quit, why still here?" comments, bring it...
The amount of effort you spent raging about this could've easily been spent getting 825 units and 20k titan shards.
you really thought you did something with that huh? it’s a time-gated, paywalled mode — nobody’s ‘wasting time’ by pointing out how trash it is while we wait for the next drip of content. maybe read how the event works before pretending you’re the productivity police.
You keep saying paywalled for some weird reason, let's actually do the math for a second so you can stop calling it that cause it's not paywalled at all if you strategize properly your masteries, spending speeds up the process yes but it's not 100% necessary. You get 3 entries a day and the event lasts 29 days, that's 87 entries in total, 59 of those entries need to be spent on shatter mode alone for the Titan which leaves you with 28 entries left for the rest of the chapters. This means you have 3 entries in total for each chapter other than shatter mode which if you actually use your brain when upgrading a character with masteries is more than enough, you really shouldn't be dying on the same chapter more than twice if you focusing on upgrading one single character first and then slowly upgrade the rest for the other objectives and even if you are, you will still have 4 more entries left in case you made a couple extra mistakes on a certain chapter.
you’re missing the entire point — it’s not about whether it’s doable, it’s about how kabam is monetizing frustration by time-gating a boring, low-effort mode and selling arcade tickets to skip the wait. the design is built around people getting annoyed enough to pay, not around fun.
kabam didn’t offer paid tickets by accident — they knew the mode was boring and slow enough that people would want to skip it. it’s not pay-to-win, it’s pay-to-stop-being-annoyed. that’s how they monetize frustration, it’s psychological manipulation.
they know people value their time, especially in a mode that feels slow, repetitive, or annoying. so they drag it out just enough that paying to speed things up feels like relief.
so yes it’s an indirect paywall dressed up as a player choice.
No it is not, you can't just change the meaning of words as you see fit lol paywall literally means restricting access to content with either a purchase or a paid subscription, you can't just change the meaning of a word. Nothing here is being restricted to you if you don't pay, the objectives are easy to complete if you just wait and play the way it was intended to play. The tickets you buy are just a shortcut and that's the word you should be using here because they are not a resource you absolutely need, they're optional if you're not a patient person.
no one’s changing definitions — you’re just ignoring how modern monetization works.
a hard paywall restricts access entirely.
a soft paywall — which is what this is — deliberately designs the experience to be slow, tedious, and frustrating unless you pay. that’s not “optional,” that’s psychological manipulation.
kabam didn’t sell us value — they sold us relief from their own artificial grind.
that’s the whole point: the mode was built in a way that incentivizes payment by making the free path annoying, not inaccessible. that is a paywall — just in the form of time, not a locked door. and that distinction? it's the exact kind of thing games exploit now because players like you pretend it's not happening.
That's not what a soft paywall is, a soft paywall limits access to some content but still allows you to engage with some of the content for free. Like I said, you are delusional and so fixated on pushing your views on everyone else that you're even attempting to argue against a valid point by changing the meaning of a word completely. This isn't a paywall no matter how you spin it, and how many Bibles you type about how the word can have a different meaning (it doesn't) if you add a different word before it because modern monetization bla bla bla. The tickets are simply a shortcut, they are not a paywall and by definition you are wrong, grab a dictionary and stop trying to modify the English language as you see fit lol.
you have repeatedly ignored the actual argument in favor of semantic nitpicking — which is exactly what people do when they know they’re losing on substance. whether you call it a “soft paywall,” “timegate,” or “strategic monetization,” the point stands: kabam intentionally designed boring, repetitive content and layered in paid shortcuts because they know some players will pay to skip it.
the definition game doesn’t change the fact that kabam profits off manufactured frustration. if you want to argue about dictionaries while they slowly replace effort with engagement farming, be my guest — i am going to call it what it is.
Yes some players will pay to skip, and I do agree it's a form of monetization because they know people will pay the five for the shortcut. What I found an issue with is you calling it a paywall, it's not a paywall no matter how you spin it, it's just a shortcut.
Now, people paying actually a good thing or a bad thing? If you hated the mode and don't want more game modes like this in the future then obviously not, if you did and you're okay with mini game type modes like this one with very good rewards then yes it's a good thing, and that's literally how every game mode is designed based on interest and player response and feedback. If you have different views on the matter then agree to disagree and move on lol it's really that simple. Don't go telling people they have Stockholm Syndrome just because they didn't share your views and actually liked the content.
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it’s not about “was it fun for you,” it’s about what it means for the future of the game. if no one pushes back, this becomes the new standard — shallow mechanics, forced time gates, and bloated monetization disguised with flashy rewards
can you understand that?
If you don't like it, that's cool, who cares?
I don't like pumpkin pie. But when I go to the pie shop, I don't start yelling at the store for offering it.
I just pick a different pie and move on with my life.
you didn’t just pick a different pie, kabam made pumpkin pie the only one on the shelf, wrapped it in gold foil, and said “this is the best slice in the shop... but only if you pay extra and pretend to enjoy it.”
this isn't about preference — it's about bad content being padded with great rewards to manipulate engagement, and your "i'm fine with it" attitude is exactly what guarantees we get more of it.
There's a ton of other stuff on the shelf.
War, BG, story, arena, special quests, casino poker, etc....
Stop trying to engage with me you pathetic loser, lol...
This is what I mean by you can't respect other people's opinions and are trying to force your views on everyone else. I don't see the game mode the way you describe it, and I absolutely wouldn't have an issue with it being the new standard as long as rewards are structured the same way and the mini games are made a little less grindy and repetitive.
Can you understand that and just agree to disagree?
It is low effort for Kabam to put out, and low effort for us to do.
So it's not replacing the high-effort stuff Kabam does, it's just something extra that took them very little resources to produce.
If you hate it, just don't play it, that's your best way of signalling to Kabam you don't like it.
For me, I'm sorry, but I'm a resource junkie, if it's easy with great rewards, sign me up.
Now if this arcade replaces BGs or Everest content, then I'll just stop playing MCOC, but I don't see that as even a theoretical possibility.
kabam didn’t offer paid tickets by accident — they knew the mode was boring and slow enough that people would want to skip it. it’s not pay-to-win, it’s pay-to-stop-being-annoyed. that’s how they monetize frustration, it’s psychological manipulation.
they know people value their time, especially in a mode that feels slow, repetitive, or annoying. so they drag it out just enough that paying to speed things up feels like relief.
so yes it’s an indirect paywall dressed up as a player choice.
this arcade event is a soft prototype. it lets them see:
how many players will engage with low-effort, off-brand content
how many will spend to bypass slow, annoying progression and whether they can wrap grindy design in “easy rewards” and still profit
if we accept this, they’ll take it as a green light to scale it up — more modes like this, more monetized time-gates, and fewer meaningful additions.
it’s not about “just don’t play it” — it’s about sending the right signal before this becomes the standard.
a hard paywall restricts access entirely.
a soft paywall — which is what this is — deliberately designs the experience to be slow, tedious, and frustrating unless you pay. that’s not “optional,” that’s psychological manipulation.
kabam didn’t sell us value — they sold us relief from their own artificial grind.
that’s the whole point: the mode was built in a way that incentivizes payment by making the free path annoying, not inaccessible. that is a paywall — just in the form of time, not a locked door.
and that distinction? it's the exact kind of thing games exploit now because players like you pretend it's not happening.
Gotta try to look at both sides. Cant deny it was nice mini game mode, less grindy with generous rewards.
But yes, by all means if you feel strongly about such things, that's what a forum is for.
this isn’t about paying vs not paying, it’s about designing content around frustration to push spending, which is manipulative. saying “it’s free so deal with it” is a lazy excuse that ignores how predatory systems thrive when players stop asking for better.
This isn't a paywall no matter how you spin it, and how many Bibles you type about how the word can have a different meaning (it doesn't) if you add a different word before it because modern monetization bla bla bla. The tickets are simply a shortcut, they are not a paywall and by definition you are wrong, grab a dictionary and stop trying to modify the English language as you see fit lol.
But that’s the problem: it normalizes low-effort, off-brand content propped up by FOMO and monetized impatience. It’s not about whether we can ignore it — it’s about whether we should let Kabam think this kind of design is acceptable long-term. The forum exists for feedback, and this is it.
the definition game doesn’t change the fact that kabam profits off manufactured frustration. if you want to argue about dictionaries while they slowly replace effort with engagement farming, be my guest — i am going to call it what it is.
You also gotta understand Kabam is business. Theyre making game sustainable for everyone and expand to other audience. In grand scheme of things, the point is to be creative to really push spending. Let them do their thing and have fun with your own, dont worry bout missing out
I'm ready for the "Didn't you quit, why still here?" comments, bring it...
Now, people paying actually a good thing or a bad thing? If you hated the mode and don't want more game modes like this in the future then obviously not, if you did and you're okay with mini game type modes like this one with very good rewards then yes it's a good thing, and that's literally how every game mode is designed based on interest and player response and feedback. If you have different views on the matter then agree to disagree and move on lol it's really that simple. Don't go telling people they have Stockholm Syndrome just because they didn't share your views and actually liked the content.