This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
It's... Different Game mode, but literally You can get everything just waiting and farming, You can get 81 entrances For free, so, You can do 100% without problem.
Btw you just Need 5 dollars to do it fast, way cheaper than 50 dollars fantastic keys lol
yeah, at this point it’s like talking to a wall. you keep repeating the same surface-level point like it’s some kind of revelation, completely ignoring the actual issue. no one’s arguing that the content IS literally locked behind money, it’s not, it’s also super cheap! but do we want more of this kind of content in the future and potentially in a worse form? I DONT.
the criticism is about how it’s intentionally designed to be low effort, annoying, boring and time gated with a currency so that paying for tickets to skip feels like the better option to grab the rewards faster. it’s a test to see “how low can we go and still profit?”
the fact that people keep parroting “you can just wait” proves they’re either missing the point or refusing to engage with it. either way, it’s frustratingly dense.
I mean, You can play that daily in 10 minutes, prizes still there, like the 21 days poker mode, like the 21 days Ping mode, is not pay to win, is pay to fast, You don't Need to pay Any cent to get everything, just play daily and that's all, can't get why this amount of tears For a test mode, a test mode that Will dissapear in days, no one Will make You play it if You don't want, is like cry about Baldurs Gate because was goty and is roguelike lol.
Thank god we can decide what we can play in this Game bro.
calling it a “test mode” like that somehow makes it immune to criticism is completely missing the point. kabam doesn’t test things for fun; they test them to gather data, to measure how far they can push monetization tactics without losing engagement. and guess what? if enough people pay to skip — even in a mode they admit sucks — kabam will absolutely bring it back in some fashion, or worse, expand on it. that’s what testing is for.
this “it’s just a test” excuse is naive at best and complicit at worst.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
You’re right,..i am proud of not participating in what i do not like and enjoy, and i do find it wise in disengaging in this game mode for that reason. (Why would i lessen myself by participating in this if that’s my feeling towards it)? Meanwhile, if you’re the “competitive type”..you should accept that if you are going to 100% every piece of content then some of it you may find wont always appeal to you. Instead you are crying about having to participate in something that you choose to do because of a bar you have set yourself,..pretty sad. And nobody is irrelevant in this game no matter if you’re competitive, semi competitive or simply casual as i’m pretty sure this certain game mode is available to all kinds of summoners. It is also their choice to disregard it or not,..but it’s kind of pathetic when people complain while grinding a mode that they themselves choose to take part in 😅.
man, your responses are full of nothing but deflection and condescension, you just never fail to completely miss the actual point!
you don’t get to dismiss legit criticism from players who did/are engaging with it just because they care enough to clear content and challenges to get good rewards. nobody’s crying, we’re pointing out lazy design and a clear monetization shift. and calling it “sad” to expect better from the game is just weak. you're not above the conversation just because you tapped out early. you're outside of it. huge difference.
you’re proudly sitting out a mode you say you dislike, acting like that’s some deep, enlightened take when all you’ve really done is remove yourself from the conversation entirely!
It’s not that deep,..it’s just logical and common sense,..you obviously have none. If you don’t like it..:don’t play it. If you choose to play it (sure you can have constructive criticism,..but you have to remember that it is ultimately your choice to participate). You’ve just gone off on a endless rant about it and i was very happy to give my initial feedback on it and then leave it be. I’m on an island in the sun and you’re miserable playing this s***,..seems pretty dumb to me. Now if you excuse me i’m going back to my island. Have fun playing game modes you don’t enjoy 😜
Yeah sure buddy, you're on an island and you decided to go on a mobile game forum to argue with people instead of doing something else. This is not the flex you think it is buddy.
Okay buddy sure. It’s not a flex,..so sorry if i am more than content not playing a game mode i don’t enjoy and not complaining about the rewards i’m missing out on (cause i haven’t complained about that once),.,.and i’m quite content with that. My original response was that no one is forced to play any game mode (which the OP insinuated). You do you,.i however will continue to laugh at the mindless sheep that are grinding this yet whining and complaining about it. I at least have respect for the people that are enjoying it (or don’t mind it). At the very least they aren’t little dogs barking and whining and crying over it. …seems pretty pathetic to me.
(1) OP has some concerning issues it seems on a personal level, all of which he has imputed to this trivial dimensional arcade game. I hope he gets help actually.
(2) Clearly no mods are reading this thread (can you blame them? 90% of the posts are from the OP and 2 others just ranting at each other like maniacs). So basically, if you ever wanted to write anything without censorship, this is your chance.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
You’re right,..i am proud of not participating in what i do not like and enjoy, and i do find it wise in disengaging in this game mode for that reason. (Why would i lessen myself by participating in this if that’s my feeling towards it)? Meanwhile, if you’re the “competitive type”..you should accept that if you are going to 100% every piece of content then some of it you may find wont always appeal to you. Instead you are crying about having to participate in something that you choose to do because of a bar you have set yourself,..pretty sad. And nobody is irrelevant in this game no matter if you’re competitive, semi competitive or simply casual as i’m pretty sure this certain game mode is available to all kinds of summoners. It is also their choice to disregard it or not,..but it’s kind of pathetic when people complain while grinding a mode that they themselves choose to take part in 😅.
man, your responses are full of nothing but deflection and condescension, you just never fail to completely miss the actual point!
you don’t get to dismiss legit criticism from players who did/are engaging with it just because they care enough to clear content and challenges to get good rewards. nobody’s crying, we’re pointing out lazy design and a clear monetization shift. and calling it “sad” to expect better from the game is just weak. you're not above the conversation just because you tapped out early. you're outside of it. huge difference.
you’re proudly sitting out a mode you say you dislike, acting like that’s some deep, enlightened take when all you’ve really done is remove yourself from the conversation entirely!
It’s not that deep,..it’s just logical and common sense,..you obviously have none. If you don’t like it..:don’t play it. If you choose to play it (sure you can have constructive criticism,..but you have to remember that it is ultimately your choice to participate). You’ve just gone off on a endless rant about it and i was very happy to give my initial feedback on it and then leave it be. I’m on an island in the sun and you’re miserable playing this s***,..seems pretty dumb to me. Now if you excuse me i’m going back to my island. Have fun playing game modes you don’t enjoy 😜
Yeah sure buddy, you're on an island and you decided to go on a mobile game forum to argue with people instead of doing something else. This is not the flex you think it is buddy.
Okay buddy sure. It’s not a flex,..so sorry if i am more than content not playing a game mode i don’t enjoy and not complaining about the rewards i’m missing out on (cause i haven’t complained about that once),.,.and i’m quite content with that. My original response was that no one is forced to play any game mode (which the OP insinuated). You do you,.i however will continue to laugh at the mindless sheep that are grinding this yet whining and complaining about it. I at least have respect for the people that are enjoying it (or don’t mind it). At the very least they aren’t little dogs barking and whining and crying over it. …seems pretty pathetic to me.
But what you did was literally a failed attempt at flexing over us "little barking dogs". It served no purpose other than shaming on the OP yet you failed to realise how miserable you are when you claim to be enjoying life like the king of the world but still checking forums and arguing with random internet people at the same time. Reminded me of that one guy a few days ago who was flexing with his money and lifestyle while complaining about Kabam support over a $30 purchase. You're not the person you want people to think you are and it's really not that hard to see. Show your superiority in your studies, work, hobbies and stuff but doing so here will just indicate the opposite of your claim. Take it as a friendly advice and feel free to ignore it altogether. Just wanted to share the point of view of someone from the outside.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
You’re right,..i am proud of not participating in what i do not like and enjoy, and i do find it wise in disengaging in this game mode for that reason. (Why would i lessen myself by participating in this if that’s my feeling towards it)? Meanwhile, if you’re the “competitive type”..you should accept that if you are going to 100% every piece of content then some of it you may find wont always appeal to you. Instead you are crying about having to participate in something that you choose to do because of a bar you have set yourself,..pretty sad. And nobody is irrelevant in this game no matter if you’re competitive, semi competitive or simply casual as i’m pretty sure this certain game mode is available to all kinds of summoners. It is also their choice to disregard it or not,..but it’s kind of pathetic when people complain while grinding a mode that they themselves choose to take part in 😅.
man, your responses are full of nothing but deflection and condescension, you just never fail to completely miss the actual point!
you don’t get to dismiss legit criticism from players who did/are engaging with it just because they care enough to clear content and challenges to get good rewards. nobody’s crying, we’re pointing out lazy design and a clear monetization shift. and calling it “sad” to expect better from the game is just weak. you're not above the conversation just because you tapped out early. you're outside of it. huge difference.
you’re proudly sitting out a mode you say you dislike, acting like that’s some deep, enlightened take when all you’ve really done is remove yourself from the conversation entirely!
It’s not that deep,..it’s just logical and common sense,..you obviously have none. If you don’t like it..:don’t play it. If you choose to play it (sure you can have constructive criticism,..but you have to remember that it is ultimately your choice to participate). You’ve just gone off on a endless rant about it and i was very happy to give my initial feedback on it and then leave it be. I’m on an island in the sun and you’re miserable playing this s***,..seems pretty dumb to me. Now if you excuse me i’m going back to my island. Have fun playing game modes you don’t enjoy 😜
Yeah sure buddy, you're on an island and you decided to go on a mobile game forum to argue with people instead of doing something else. This is not the flex you think it is buddy.
Okay buddy sure. It’s not a flex,..so sorry if i am more than content not playing a game mode i don’t enjoy and not complaining about the rewards i’m missing out on (cause i haven’t complained about that once),.,.and i’m quite content with that. My original response was that no one is forced to play any game mode (which the OP insinuated). You do you,.i however will continue to laugh at the mindless sheep that are grinding this yet whining and complaining about it. I at least have respect for the people that are enjoying it (or don’t mind it). At the very least they aren’t little dogs barking and whining and crying over it. …seems pretty pathetic to me.
But what you did was literally a failed attempt at flexing over us "little barking dogs". It served no purpose other than shaming on the OP yet you failed to realise how miserable you are when you claim to be enjoying life like the king of the world but still checking forums and arguing with random internet people at the same time. Reminded me of that one guy a few days ago who was flexing with his money and lifestyle while complaining about Kabam support over a $30 purchase. You're not the person you want people to think you are and it's really not that hard to see. Show your superiority in your studies, work, hobbies and stuff but doing so here will just indicate the opposite of your claim. Take it as a friendly advice and feel free to ignore it altogether. Just wanted to share the point of view of someone from the outside.
Have a nice day!
You're arguing with internet people and checking forums too and you don't even play the game anymore lmfao the lack of self-awareness, absolutely hilarious. How miserable does one have to be to be arguing malding and complaining on a forum about stuff they're clearly not even interested in anymore. Really just trying to be a Karen like op except at least he still plays the game.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
You’re right,..i am proud of not participating in what i do not like and enjoy, and i do find it wise in disengaging in this game mode for that reason. (Why would i lessen myself by participating in this if that’s my feeling towards it)? Meanwhile, if you’re the “competitive type”..you should accept that if you are going to 100% every piece of content then some of it you may find wont always appeal to you. Instead you are crying about having to participate in something that you choose to do because of a bar you have set yourself,..pretty sad. And nobody is irrelevant in this game no matter if you’re competitive, semi competitive or simply casual as i’m pretty sure this certain game mode is available to all kinds of summoners. It is also their choice to disregard it or not,..but it’s kind of pathetic when people complain while grinding a mode that they themselves choose to take part in 😅.
man, your responses are full of nothing but deflection and condescension, you just never fail to completely miss the actual point!
you don’t get to dismiss legit criticism from players who did/are engaging with it just because they care enough to clear content and challenges to get good rewards. nobody’s crying, we’re pointing out lazy design and a clear monetization shift. and calling it “sad” to expect better from the game is just weak. you're not above the conversation just because you tapped out early. you're outside of it. huge difference.
you’re proudly sitting out a mode you say you dislike, acting like that’s some deep, enlightened take when all you’ve really done is remove yourself from the conversation entirely!
It’s not that deep,..it’s just logical and common sense,..you obviously have none. If you don’t like it..:don’t play it. If you choose to play it (sure you can have constructive criticism,..but you have to remember that it is ultimately your choice to participate). You’ve just gone off on a endless rant about it and i was very happy to give my initial feedback on it and then leave it be. I’m on an island in the sun and you’re miserable playing this s***,..seems pretty dumb to me. Now if you excuse me i’m going back to my island. Have fun playing game modes you don’t enjoy 😜
Yeah sure buddy, you're on an island and you decided to go on a mobile game forum to argue with people instead of doing something else. This is not the flex you think it is buddy.
Okay buddy sure. It’s not a flex,..so sorry if i am more than content not playing a game mode i don’t enjoy and not complaining about the rewards i’m missing out on (cause i haven’t complained about that once),.,.and i’m quite content with that. My original response was that no one is forced to play any game mode (which the OP insinuated). You do you,.i however will continue to laugh at the mindless sheep that are grinding this yet whining and complaining about it. I at least have respect for the people that are enjoying it (or don’t mind it). At the very least they aren’t little dogs barking and whining and crying over it. …seems pretty pathetic to me.
But what you did was literally a failed attempt at flexing over us "little barking dogs". It served no purpose other than shaming on the OP yet you failed to realise how miserable you are when you claim to be enjoying life like the king of the world but still checking forums and arguing with random internet people at the same time. Reminded me of that one guy a few days ago who was flexing with his money and lifestyle while complaining about Kabam support over a $30 purchase. You're not the person you want people to think you are and it's really not that hard to see. Show your superiority in your studies, work, hobbies and stuff but doing so here will just indicate the opposite of your claim. Take it as a friendly advice and feel free to ignore it altogether. Just wanted to share the point of view of someone from the outside.
Have a nice day!
You're arguing with internet people and checking forums too and you don't even play the game anymore lmfao the lack of self-awareness, absolutely hilarious.
I won't construct a detailed response since I'm not sure if you're deliberately acting this dense or just can't apply basic logic no matter how hard you try. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, didn't expect you to get so emotional over simple criticism but here we are Now please let this thread die in peace, it had already lost its purpose when you showed up anyways.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
You’re right,..i am proud of not participating in what i do not like and enjoy, and i do find it wise in disengaging in this game mode for that reason. (Why would i lessen myself by participating in this if that’s my feeling towards it)? Meanwhile, if you’re the “competitive type”..you should accept that if you are going to 100% every piece of content then some of it you may find wont always appeal to you. Instead you are crying about having to participate in something that you choose to do because of a bar you have set yourself,..pretty sad. And nobody is irrelevant in this game no matter if you’re competitive, semi competitive or simply casual as i’m pretty sure this certain game mode is available to all kinds of summoners. It is also their choice to disregard it or not,..but it’s kind of pathetic when people complain while grinding a mode that they themselves choose to take part in 😅.
man, your responses are full of nothing but deflection and condescension, you just never fail to completely miss the actual point!
you don’t get to dismiss legit criticism from players who did/are engaging with it just because they care enough to clear content and challenges to get good rewards. nobody’s crying, we’re pointing out lazy design and a clear monetization shift. and calling it “sad” to expect better from the game is just weak. you're not above the conversation just because you tapped out early. you're outside of it. huge difference.
you’re proudly sitting out a mode you say you dislike, acting like that’s some deep, enlightened take when all you’ve really done is remove yourself from the conversation entirely!
It’s not that deep,..it’s just logical and common sense,..you obviously have none. If you don’t like it..:don’t play it. If you choose to play it (sure you can have constructive criticism,..but you have to remember that it is ultimately your choice to participate). You’ve just gone off on a endless rant about it and i was very happy to give my initial feedback on it and then leave it be. I’m on an island in the sun and you’re miserable playing this s***,..seems pretty dumb to me. Now if you excuse me i’m going back to my island. Have fun playing game modes you don’t enjoy 😜
Yeah sure buddy, you're on an island and you decided to go on a mobile game forum to argue with people instead of doing something else. This is not the flex you think it is buddy.
Okay buddy sure. It’s not a flex,..so sorry if i am more than content not playing a game mode i don’t enjoy and not complaining about the rewards i’m missing out on (cause i haven’t complained about that once),.,.and i’m quite content with that. My original response was that no one is forced to play any game mode (which the OP insinuated). You do you,.i however will continue to laugh at the mindless sheep that are grinding this yet whining and complaining about it. I at least have respect for the people that are enjoying it (or don’t mind it). At the very least they aren’t little dogs barking and whining and crying over it. …seems pretty pathetic to me.
But what you did was literally a failed attempt at flexing over us "little barking dogs". It served no purpose other than shaming on the OP yet you failed to realise how miserable you are when you claim to be enjoying life like the king of the world but still checking forums and arguing with random internet people at the same time. Reminded me of that one guy a few days ago who was flexing with his money and lifestyle while complaining about Kabam support over a $30 purchase. You're not the person you want people to think you are and it's really not that hard to see. Show your superiority in your studies, work, hobbies and stuff but doing so here will just indicate the opposite of your claim. Take it as a friendly advice and feel free to ignore it altogether. Just wanted to share the point of view of someone from the outside.
Have a nice day!
You're arguing with internet people and checking forums too and you don't even play the game anymore lmfao the lack of self-awareness, absolutely hilarious.
I won't construct a detailed response since I'm not sure if you're deliberately acting this dense or just can't apply basic logic no matter how hard you try. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, didn't expect you to get so emotional over simple criticism but here we are Now please let this thread die in peace, it had already lost its purpose when you showed up anyways.
The only thing with no purpose here is your life, that's why you're crying on a forum about a mobile game you don't even play anymore when you could very well be doing something more productive outside lol. We're all here because we're still actively playing the game what about you? Do you normally hang around forums on a daily basis for video games you no longer play while you snack on hot cheetos and pepsi in your mom's basement or you're just that mad at the world for who knows what reason that you feel the need to send personal attacks to random people on the internet you had never even interacted with previously? Either way, miserable 😀
(1) OP has some concerning issues it seems on a personal level, all of which he has imputed to this trivial dimensional arcade game. I hope he gets help actually.
(2) Clearly no mods are reading this thread (can you blame them? 90% of the posts are from the OP and 2 others just ranting at each other like maniacs). So basically, if you ever wanted to write anything without censorship, this is your chance.
Baba Booey! Baba Booey! Baba Booey!!
acting like i’m crazy for pointing out obvious flaws just proves you have nothing real to say. when people can't refute the point, they resort to mocking the person or being condescending. it's lazy, deflective, and exactly why the game keeps getting worse — because no one wants to hold anything accountable.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
You’re right,..i am proud of not participating in what i do not like and enjoy, and i do find it wise in disengaging in this game mode for that reason. (Why would i lessen myself by participating in this if that’s my feeling towards it)? Meanwhile, if you’re the “competitive type”..you should accept that if you are going to 100% every piece of content then some of it you may find wont always appeal to you. Instead you are crying about having to participate in something that you choose to do because of a bar you have set yourself,..pretty sad. And nobody is irrelevant in this game no matter if you’re competitive, semi competitive or simply casual as i’m pretty sure this certain game mode is available to all kinds of summoners. It is also their choice to disregard it or not,..but it’s kind of pathetic when people complain while grinding a mode that they themselves choose to take part in 😅.
man, your responses are full of nothing but deflection and condescension, you just never fail to completely miss the actual point!
you don’t get to dismiss legit criticism from players who did/are engaging with it just because they care enough to clear content and challenges to get good rewards. nobody’s crying, we’re pointing out lazy design and a clear monetization shift. and calling it “sad” to expect better from the game is just weak. you're not above the conversation just because you tapped out early. you're outside of it. huge difference.
you’re proudly sitting out a mode you say you dislike, acting like that’s some deep, enlightened take when all you’ve really done is remove yourself from the conversation entirely!
It’s not that deep,..it’s just logical and common sense,..you obviously have none. If you don’t like it..:don’t play it. If you choose to play it (sure you can have constructive criticism,..but you have to remember that it is ultimately your choice to participate). You’ve just gone off on a endless rant about it and i was very happy to give my initial feedback on it and then leave it be. I’m on an island in the sun and you’re miserable playing this s***,..seems pretty dumb to me. Now if you excuse me i’m going back to my island. Have fun playing game modes you don’t enjoy 😜
Yeah sure buddy, you're on an island and you decided to go on a mobile game forum to argue with people instead of doing something else. This is not the flex you think it is buddy.
Okay buddy sure. It’s not a flex,..so sorry if i am more than content not playing a game mode i don’t enjoy and not complaining about the rewards i’m missing out on (cause i haven’t complained about that once),.,.and i’m quite content with that. My original response was that no one is forced to play any game mode (which the OP insinuated). You do you,.i however will continue to laugh at the mindless sheep that are grinding this yet whining and complaining about it. I at least have respect for the people that are enjoying it (or don’t mind it). At the very least they aren’t little dogs barking and whining and crying over it. …seems pretty pathetic to me.
nah it was a flex — you acted like you were posting from some paradise island to look above it all, when clearly you’re still here arguing like the rest of us. nobody believes you’re sipping cocktails on a beach while typing essays about side quests. you’re not detached, you’re just pretending to be while trying to talk down to people with the same superiority complex you accuse others of. all bark, no island. corny.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
It's... Different Game mode, but literally You can get everything just waiting and farming, You can get 81 entrances For free, so, You can do 100% without problem.
Btw you just Need 5 dollars to do it fast, way cheaper than 50 dollars fantastic keys lol
yeah, at this point it’s like talking to a wall. you keep repeating the same surface-level point like it’s some kind of revelation, completely ignoring the actual issue. no one’s arguing that the content IS literally locked behind money, it’s not, it’s also super cheap! but do we want more of this kind of content in the future and potentially in a worse form? I DONT.
the criticism is about how it’s intentionally designed to be low effort, annoying, boring and time gated with a currency so that paying for tickets to skip feels like the better option to grab the rewards faster. it’s a test to see “how low can we go and still profit?”
the fact that people keep parroting “you can just wait” proves they’re either missing the point or refusing to engage with it. either way, it’s frustratingly dense.
I mean, You can play that daily in 10 minutes, prizes still there, like the 21 days poker mode, like the 21 days Ping mode, is not pay to win, is pay to fast, You don't Need to pay Any cent to get everything, just play daily and that's all, can't get why this amount of tears For a test mode, a test mode that Will dissapear in days, no one Will make You play it if You don't want, is like cry about Baldurs Gate because was goty and is roguelike lol.
Thank god we can decide what we can play in this Game bro.
calling it a “test mode” like that somehow makes it immune to criticism is completely missing the point. kabam doesn’t test things for fun; they test them to gather data, to measure how far they can push monetization tactics without losing engagement. and guess what? if enough people pay to skip — even in a mode they admit sucks — kabam will absolutely bring it back in some fashion, or worse, expand on it. that’s what testing is for.
this “it’s just a test” excuse is naive at best and complicit at worst.
Bro, i literally can't get it, there's more problems in the Game to make a tsunami about a webpage Game, honestly.
They need to make money, also, You can play it for free, i can assure You that You Will get the same as a player that spent the Insane amount of... 4 dollars.
A man Discover what a Game developer does with new Game modes, gather data, congrats?
Is not like Battlegrounds or any mode that depends on prestige, or spent 1000 dollars to get the Best prizes, so, i can't get why do all this problem for a 10 minutes minigame when You take 2 hours to do Arena milestones, or that 10 minutes to play one BG round, but, okay, we are free to argue and get mad.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
It's... Different Game mode, but literally You can get everything just waiting and farming, You can get 81 entrances For free, so, You can do 100% without problem.
Btw you just Need 5 dollars to do it fast, way cheaper than 50 dollars fantastic keys lol
yeah, at this point it’s like talking to a wall. you keep repeating the same surface-level point like it’s some kind of revelation, completely ignoring the actual issue. no one’s arguing that the content IS literally locked behind money, it’s not, it’s also super cheap! but do we want more of this kind of content in the future and potentially in a worse form? I DONT.
the criticism is about how it’s intentionally designed to be low effort, annoying, boring and time gated with a currency so that paying for tickets to skip feels like the better option to grab the rewards faster. it’s a test to see “how low can we go and still profit?”
the fact that people keep parroting “you can just wait” proves they’re either missing the point or refusing to engage with it. either way, it’s frustratingly dense.
I mean, You can play that daily in 10 minutes, prizes still there, like the 21 days poker mode, like the 21 days Ping mode, is not pay to win, is pay to fast, You don't Need to pay Any cent to get everything, just play daily and that's all, can't get why this amount of tears For a test mode, a test mode that Will dissapear in days, no one Will make You play it if You don't want, is like cry about Baldurs Gate because was goty and is roguelike lol.
Thank god we can decide what we can play in this Game bro.
calling it a “test mode” like that somehow makes it immune to criticism is completely missing the point. kabam doesn’t test things for fun; they test them to gather data, to measure how far they can push monetization tactics without losing engagement. and guess what? if enough people pay to skip — even in a mode they admit sucks — kabam will absolutely bring it back in some fashion, or worse, expand on it. that’s what testing is for.
this “it’s just a test” excuse is naive at best and complicit at worst.
Bro, i literally can't get it, there's more problems in the Game to make a tsunami about a webpage Game, honestly.
They need to make money, also, You can play it for free, i can assure You that You Will get the same as a player that spent the Insane amount of... 4 dollars.
A man Discover what a Game developer does with new Game modes, gather data, congrats?
Is not like Battlegrounds or any mode that depends on prestige, or spent 1000 dollars to get the Best prizes, so, i can't get why do all this problem for a 10 minutes minigame when You take 2 hours to do Arena milestones, or that 10 minutes to play one BG round, but, okay, we are free to argue and get mad.
Greetings.
the issue isn’t the price or the time it takes to do it — it's the precedent. if players shrug this off, kabam sees it as a greenlight to make more of this 2d arcade mode with a time gated currency, half-baked content monetized through paid shortcuts. so yeah, some of us care if this mode returns, it’s cool now but i genuinely don’t want to see it again, i want to play MCOC, i don’t want this in the game.
don’t act like people raising that concern are overreacting just because it's “only a few bucks.” the cost isn't the problem — the model is.
then, if you do decide to pay for tickets, cool, now you have to sit and watch auto fights on your screen, 60+ times… you’ve turned your screen into a slideshow of the same fight over and over. how are you justifying this?
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
It's... Different Game mode, but literally You can get everything just waiting and farming, You can get 81 entrances For free, so, You can do 100% without problem.
Btw you just Need 5 dollars to do it fast, way cheaper than 50 dollars fantastic keys lol
yeah, at this point it’s like talking to a wall. you keep repeating the same surface-level point like it’s some kind of revelation, completely ignoring the actual issue. no one’s arguing that the content IS literally locked behind money, it’s not, it’s also super cheap! but do we want more of this kind of content in the future and potentially in a worse form? I DONT.
the criticism is about how it’s intentionally designed to be low effort, annoying, boring and time gated with a currency so that paying for tickets to skip feels like the better option to grab the rewards faster. it’s a test to see “how low can we go and still profit?”
the fact that people keep parroting “you can just wait” proves they’re either missing the point or refusing to engage with it. either way, it’s frustratingly dense.
I mean, You can play that daily in 10 minutes, prizes still there, like the 21 days poker mode, like the 21 days Ping mode, is not pay to win, is pay to fast, You don't Need to pay Any cent to get everything, just play daily and that's all, can't get why this amount of tears For a test mode, a test mode that Will dissapear in days, no one Will make You play it if You don't want, is like cry about Baldurs Gate because was goty and is roguelike lol.
Thank god we can decide what we can play in this Game bro.
calling it a “test mode” like that somehow makes it immune to criticism is completely missing the point. kabam doesn’t test things for fun; they test them to gather data, to measure how far they can push monetization tactics without losing engagement. and guess what? if enough people pay to skip — even in a mode they admit sucks — kabam will absolutely bring it back in some fashion, or worse, expand on it. that’s what testing is for.
this “it’s just a test” excuse is naive at best and complicit at worst.
Bro, i literally can't get it, there's more problems in the Game to make a tsunami about a webpage Game, honestly.
They need to make money, also, You can play it for free, i can assure You that You Will get the same as a player that spent the Insane amount of... 4 dollars.
A man Discover what a Game developer does with new Game modes, gather data, congrats?
Is not like Battlegrounds or any mode that depends on prestige, or spent 1000 dollars to get the Best prizes, so, i can't get why do all this problem for a 10 minutes minigame when You take 2 hours to do Arena milestones, or that 10 minutes to play one BG round, but, okay, we are free to argue and get mad.
Greetings.
the issue isn’t the price or the time it takes to do it — it's the precedent. if players shrug this off, kabam sees it as a greenlight to make more of this 2d arcade mode with a time gated currency, half-baked content monetized through paid shortcuts. so yeah, some of us care if this mode returns, it’s cool now but i genuinely don’t want to see it again, i want to play MCOC, i don’t want this in the game.
don’t act like people raising that concern are overreacting just because it's “only a few bucks.” the cost isn't the problem — the model is.
then, if you do decide to pay for tickets, cool, now you have to sit and watch auto fights on your screen, 60+ times… you’ve turned your screen into a slideshow of the same fight over and over. how are you justifying this?
Seriously, You Need to chill, feedback is really Bad, this mode Will not come Back lol
Yeah, You are overreacting, because is not mandatory
Yeah, that's the point of Roguelike games, just grind and grind, and grind, some people love it, some people hate it, that's the videogame diversity.
The mode will be gone in few weeks, Will dissapear, no Need to waste money or time playing it, prizes are not Game breaking, that's it, just keep playing MCOC, we are actually in Summoner fest, Raid Month, the poker mode, BG Season, AW Season, trust me, that mode is the smallest problem with the Game actually.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
It's... Different Game mode, but literally You can get everything just waiting and farming, You can get 81 entrances For free, so, You can do 100% without problem.
Btw you just Need 5 dollars to do it fast, way cheaper than 50 dollars fantastic keys lol
yeah, at this point it’s like talking to a wall. you keep repeating the same surface-level point like it’s some kind of revelation, completely ignoring the actual issue. no one’s arguing that the content IS literally locked behind money, it’s not, it’s also super cheap! but do we want more of this kind of content in the future and potentially in a worse form? I DONT.
the criticism is about how it’s intentionally designed to be low effort, annoying, boring and time gated with a currency so that paying for tickets to skip feels like the better option to grab the rewards faster. it’s a test to see “how low can we go and still profit?”
the fact that people keep parroting “you can just wait” proves they’re either missing the point or refusing to engage with it. either way, it’s frustratingly dense.
I mean, You can play that daily in 10 minutes, prizes still there, like the 21 days poker mode, like the 21 days Ping mode, is not pay to win, is pay to fast, You don't Need to pay Any cent to get everything, just play daily and that's all, can't get why this amount of tears For a test mode, a test mode that Will dissapear in days, no one Will make You play it if You don't want, is like cry about Baldurs Gate because was goty and is roguelike lol.
Thank god we can decide what we can play in this Game bro.
calling it a “test mode” like that somehow makes it immune to criticism is completely missing the point. kabam doesn’t test things for fun; they test them to gather data, to measure how far they can push monetization tactics without losing engagement. and guess what? if enough people pay to skip — even in a mode they admit sucks — kabam will absolutely bring it back in some fashion, or worse, expand on it. that’s what testing is for.
this “it’s just a test” excuse is naive at best and complicit at worst.
Bro, i literally can't get it, there's more problems in the Game to make a tsunami about a webpage Game, honestly.
They need to make money, also, You can play it for free, i can assure You that You Will get the same as a player that spent the Insane amount of... 4 dollars.
A man Discover what a Game developer does with new Game modes, gather data, congrats?
Is not like Battlegrounds or any mode that depends on prestige, or spent 1000 dollars to get the Best prizes, so, i can't get why do all this problem for a 10 minutes minigame when You take 2 hours to do Arena milestones, or that 10 minutes to play one BG round, but, okay, we are free to argue and get mad.
Greetings.
the issue isn’t the price or the time it takes to do it — it's the precedent. if players shrug this off, kabam sees it as a greenlight to make more of this 2d arcade mode with a time gated currency, half-baked content monetized through paid shortcuts. so yeah, some of us care if this mode returns, it’s cool now but i genuinely don’t want to see it again, i want to play MCOC, i don’t want this in the game.
don’t act like people raising that concern are overreacting just because it's “only a few bucks.” the cost isn't the problem — the model is.
then, if you do decide to pay for tickets, cool, now you have to sit and watch auto fights on your screen, 60+ times… you’ve turned your screen into a slideshow of the same fight over and over. how are you justifying this?
Seriously, You Need to chill, feedback is really Bad, this mode Will not come Back lol
Yeah, You are overreacting, because is not mandatory
Yeah, that's the point of Roguelike games, just grind and grind, and grind, some people love it, some people hate it, that's the videogame diversity.
The mode will be gone in few weeks, Will dissapear, no Need to waste money or time playing it, prizes are not Game breaking, that's it, just keep playing MCOC, we are actually in Summoner fest, Raid Month, the poker mode, BG Season, AW Season, trust me, that mode is the smallest problem with the Game actually.
what’s frustrating isn’t just the mode itself — it’s the wave of smug, dismissive replies from people who:
– completely miss the point, – parrot the same shallow “don’t like it, don’t play it” nonsense, – or act like being willfully oblivious somehow makes them more logical or enlightened.
i gave genuine feedback — and instead of actually engaging with any of it, you and others just hand-wave it all away with “it’s not mandatory” like that magically fixes everything. it’s why this year the game has been so disappointing to begin with after we got that awesome content we call epoch of pain.
so yeah, the mode sucks — but the part that really tilts me is the way people defend it (or mock anyone who criticizes it) while pretending they’re the reasonable ones. i’m not upset over one feature — i’m upset about what it represents, and how too many people in this community are perfectly fine just letting it happen. because then, it’ll keep happening.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
“We can’t ignore it”?. I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available. I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t. …see?,.., it’s easy.
okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
You’re right,..i am proud of not participating in what i do not like and enjoy, and i do find it wise in disengaging in this game mode for that reason. (Why would i lessen myself by participating in this if that’s my feeling towards it)? Meanwhile, if you’re the “competitive type”..you should accept that if you are going to 100% every piece of content then some of it you may find wont always appeal to you. Instead you are crying about having to participate in something that you choose to do because of a bar you have set yourself,..pretty sad. And nobody is irrelevant in this game no matter if you’re competitive, semi competitive or simply casual as i’m pretty sure this certain game mode is available to all kinds of summoners. It is also their choice to disregard it or not,..but it’s kind of pathetic when people complain while grinding a mode that they themselves choose to take part in 😅.
man, your responses are full of nothing but deflection and condescension, you just never fail to completely miss the actual point!
you don’t get to dismiss legit criticism from players who did/are engaging with it just because they care enough to clear content and challenges to get good rewards. nobody’s crying, we’re pointing out lazy design and a clear monetization shift. and calling it “sad” to expect better from the game is just weak. you're not above the conversation just because you tapped out early. you're outside of it. huge difference.
you’re proudly sitting out a mode you say you dislike, acting like that’s some deep, enlightened take when all you’ve really done is remove yourself from the conversation entirely!
Just move on imo, pretty sure that those with good will have already understood your point. Guy with 30+ posts -just today- told you to touch grass, why even bother arguing further. He's just projecting as per usual and is mad for no apparent reason but thinks sliding in a lol or lmao would hide his emotions It should be clear after a while that you shouldn't waste time arguing with certain users including me, I suck
you were right too, it’s not even about whether my point is valid anymore. the people who already decided to disagree with me are just orbiting the post, waiting to downvote or reply with the same tired takes, while the people who actually get it either aren’t around, don’t feel like jumping into the mess, or just get drowned out.
its like i’m shouting into a void that’s been preloaded with contrarians. but that doesn’t mean my point’s are wrong — it just means the thread’s been hijacked by people more interested in feeling superior than actually thinking critically. 😂
Please don't enable it by spending. Play, don't play, whatevers your choice.
Kabam with thier numbers: We are generating revenue out of a Side Quest? Omg, let's go harder and bring more of these grind intensive mind numbing modes. Let's go, monetized SQ ftw!!
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
It's... Different Game mode, but literally You can get everything just waiting and farming, You can get 81 entrances For free, so, You can do 100% without problem.
Btw you just Need 5 dollars to do it fast, way cheaper than 50 dollars fantastic keys lol
yeah, at this point it’s like talking to a wall. you keep repeating the same surface-level point like it’s some kind of revelation, completely ignoring the actual issue. no one’s arguing that the content IS literally locked behind money, it’s not, it’s also super cheap! but do we want more of this kind of content in the future and potentially in a worse form? I DONT.
the criticism is about how it’s intentionally designed to be low effort, annoying, boring and time gated with a currency so that paying for tickets to skip feels like the better option to grab the rewards faster. it’s a test to see “how low can we go and still profit?”
the fact that people keep parroting “you can just wait” proves they’re either missing the point or refusing to engage with it. either way, it’s frustratingly dense.
I mean, You can play that daily in 10 minutes, prizes still there, like the 21 days poker mode, like the 21 days Ping mode, is not pay to win, is pay to fast, You don't Need to pay Any cent to get everything, just play daily and that's all, can't get why this amount of tears For a test mode, a test mode that Will dissapear in days, no one Will make You play it if You don't want, is like cry about Baldurs Gate because was goty and is roguelike lol.
Thank god we can decide what we can play in this Game bro.
calling it a “test mode” like that somehow makes it immune to criticism is completely missing the point. kabam doesn’t test things for fun; they test them to gather data, to measure how far they can push monetization tactics without losing engagement. and guess what? if enough people pay to skip — even in a mode they admit sucks — kabam will absolutely bring it back in some fashion, or worse, expand on it. that’s what testing is for.
this “it’s just a test” excuse is naive at best and complicit at worst.
Bro, i literally can't get it, there's more problems in the Game to make a tsunami about a webpage Game, honestly.
They need to make money, also, You can play it for free, i can assure You that You Will get the same as a player that spent the Insane amount of... 4 dollars.
A man Discover what a Game developer does with new Game modes, gather data, congrats?
Is not like Battlegrounds or any mode that depends on prestige, or spent 1000 dollars to get the Best prizes, so, i can't get why do all this problem for a 10 minutes minigame when You take 2 hours to do Arena milestones, or that 10 minutes to play one BG round, but, okay, we are free to argue and get mad.
Greetings.
the issue isn’t the price or the time it takes to do it — it's the precedent. if players shrug this off, kabam sees it as a greenlight to make more of this 2d arcade mode with a time gated currency, half-baked content monetized through paid shortcuts. so yeah, some of us care if this mode returns, it’s cool now but i genuinely don’t want to see it again, i want to play MCOC, i don’t want this in the game.
don’t act like people raising that concern are overreacting just because it's “only a few bucks.” the cost isn't the problem — the model is.
then, if you do decide to pay for tickets, cool, now you have to sit and watch auto fights on your screen, 60+ times… you’ve turned your screen into a slideshow of the same fight over and over. how are you justifying this?
Are you for or against revive farming like what used to exist?
Because if you are, you have zero ground to stand on when saying you're turning your phone into a slideshow because that's what revive farming is. Auto fighting your way through low level story content. So if you're ok with that then you need to drop.that excuse.
I'm not a super fan of this mode. It's slow, it needs tweeks to how the masteries are done and a few other QOL things. If this mode never returns, I'm fine with it. If it does, cool. The rewards are good enough to want to do it.
But you don't get to decide for the community. You can say you don't like this game mode and everything but there are people who do actually enjoy this. Especially if you have a job where you can't do actual content, this great to do an earn rewards.
Everything in this game can be done if real money is used. That's the whole point of micro transactions. Whether you're buying energy, revives or units etc... it's no different than spending $5 for tickets to knock something out. Having a way to do content faster and easier won't ever stop. Sorry to burst your bubble but everyone typically wants a way to knock things out quickly. I just don't understand why you're taking such a hard line on this but have no other problem with other purchases in the game. Or you're saying they should remove any and all "shortcut purchases"? No more energy refills, revives, health pots, etc.. for real money or units?
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
It's... Different Game mode, but literally You can get everything just waiting and farming, You can get 81 entrances For free, so, You can do 100% without problem.
Btw you just Need 5 dollars to do it fast, way cheaper than 50 dollars fantastic keys lol
yeah, at this point it’s like talking to a wall. you keep repeating the same surface-level point like it’s some kind of revelation, completely ignoring the actual issue. no one’s arguing that the content IS literally locked behind money, it’s not, it’s also super cheap! but do we want more of this kind of content in the future and potentially in a worse form? I DONT.
the criticism is about how it’s intentionally designed to be low effort, annoying, boring and time gated with a currency so that paying for tickets to skip feels like the better option to grab the rewards faster. it’s a test to see “how low can we go and still profit?”
the fact that people keep parroting “you can just wait” proves they’re either missing the point or refusing to engage with it. either way, it’s frustratingly dense.
I mean, You can play that daily in 10 minutes, prizes still there, like the 21 days poker mode, like the 21 days Ping mode, is not pay to win, is pay to fast, You don't Need to pay Any cent to get everything, just play daily and that's all, can't get why this amount of tears For a test mode, a test mode that Will dissapear in days, no one Will make You play it if You don't want, is like cry about Baldurs Gate because was goty and is roguelike lol.
Thank god we can decide what we can play in this Game bro.
calling it a “test mode” like that somehow makes it immune to criticism is completely missing the point. kabam doesn’t test things for fun; they test them to gather data, to measure how far they can push monetization tactics without losing engagement. and guess what? if enough people pay to skip — even in a mode they admit sucks — kabam will absolutely bring it back in some fashion, or worse, expand on it. that’s what testing is for.
this “it’s just a test” excuse is naive at best and complicit at worst.
Bro, i literally can't get it, there's more problems in the Game to make a tsunami about a webpage Game, honestly.
They need to make money, also, You can play it for free, i can assure You that You Will get the same as a player that spent the Insane amount of... 4 dollars.
A man Discover what a Game developer does with new Game modes, gather data, congrats?
Is not like Battlegrounds or any mode that depends on prestige, or spent 1000 dollars to get the Best prizes, so, i can't get why do all this problem for a 10 minutes minigame when You take 2 hours to do Arena milestones, or that 10 minutes to play one BG round, but, okay, we are free to argue and get mad.
Greetings.
the issue isn’t the price or the time it takes to do it — it's the precedent. if players shrug this off, kabam sees it as a greenlight to make more of this 2d arcade mode with a time gated currency, half-baked content monetized through paid shortcuts. so yeah, some of us care if this mode returns, it’s cool now but i genuinely don’t want to see it again, i want to play MCOC, i don’t want this in the game.
don’t act like people raising that concern are overreacting just because it's “only a few bucks.” the cost isn't the problem — the model is.
then, if you do decide to pay for tickets, cool, now you have to sit and watch auto fights on your screen, 60+ times… you’ve turned your screen into a slideshow of the same fight over and over. how are you justifying this?
Are you for or against revive farming like what used to exist?
Because if you are, you have zero ground to stand on when saying you're turning your phone into a slideshow because that's what revive farming is. Auto fighting your way through low level story content. So if you're ok with that then you need to drop.that excuse.
I'm not a super fan of this mode. It's slow, it needs tweeks to how the masteries are done and a few other QOL things. If this mode never returns, I'm fine with it. If it does, cool. The rewards are good enough to want to do it.
But you don't get to decide for the community. You can say you don't like this game mode and everything but there are people who do actually enjoy this. Especially if you have a job where you can't do actual content, this great to do an earn rewards.
Everything in this game can be done if real money is used. That's the whole point of micro transactions. Whether you're buying energy, revives or units etc... it's no different than spending $5 for tickets to knock something out. Having a way to do content faster and easier won't ever stop. Sorry to burst your bubble but everyone typically wants a way to knock things out quickly. I just don't understand why you're taking such a hard line on this but have no other problem with other purchases in the game. Or you're saying they should remove any and all "shortcut purchases"? No more energy refills, revives, health pots, etc.. for real money or units?
Your argument is specious.
Revive farming = Autofight + Rewards = Doom cycle yes. But in every other aspect, it is not.
Revive farming uses your Account. You can only autofight if (1) You've played MCOC long enough to unlock the ability, (2) You've earned rewards from MCOC to obtain and level up champions, (3) Your account progression level qualifies you for special events (or story content) where revive farming is helpful, and (4) You have a specific time goal of when you want to attempt this content since overflow resources can expire.
Doom cycle doesn't use your Account - in fact, unlike Arcade Poker, it doesn't even use any energy resource. Additionally, you are playing this random other game on Kabam's timeline (daily; and you have to do it for 4 weeks if you want the top reward). Plus, while Doom Cycle is happening, there is the opportunity cost of not having a special event that utilizes your account for standard MCOC gameplay. So overflow resources are just expiring since the SOS/WOW type event that would normally happen, is now replaced by this Non-MCOC event.
A lot of the players here supporting (or saying it is not a bad precedent) the event think "easy rewards for no effort" is perfectly acceptable. And that is not what people complaining about the event are even arguing about.
This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy, It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
It's... Different Game mode, but literally You can get everything just waiting and farming, You can get 81 entrances For free, so, You can do 100% without problem.
Btw you just Need 5 dollars to do it fast, way cheaper than 50 dollars fantastic keys lol
yeah, at this point it’s like talking to a wall. you keep repeating the same surface-level point like it’s some kind of revelation, completely ignoring the actual issue. no one’s arguing that the content IS literally locked behind money, it’s not, it’s also super cheap! but do we want more of this kind of content in the future and potentially in a worse form? I DONT.
the criticism is about how it’s intentionally designed to be low effort, annoying, boring and time gated with a currency so that paying for tickets to skip feels like the better option to grab the rewards faster. it’s a test to see “how low can we go and still profit?”
the fact that people keep parroting “you can just wait” proves they’re either missing the point or refusing to engage with it. either way, it’s frustratingly dense.
I mean, You can play that daily in 10 minutes, prizes still there, like the 21 days poker mode, like the 21 days Ping mode, is not pay to win, is pay to fast, You don't Need to pay Any cent to get everything, just play daily and that's all, can't get why this amount of tears For a test mode, a test mode that Will dissapear in days, no one Will make You play it if You don't want, is like cry about Baldurs Gate because was goty and is roguelike lol.
Thank god we can decide what we can play in this Game bro.
calling it a “test mode” like that somehow makes it immune to criticism is completely missing the point. kabam doesn’t test things for fun; they test them to gather data, to measure how far they can push monetization tactics without losing engagement. and guess what? if enough people pay to skip — even in a mode they admit sucks — kabam will absolutely bring it back in some fashion, or worse, expand on it. that’s what testing is for.
this “it’s just a test” excuse is naive at best and complicit at worst.
Bro, i literally can't get it, there's more problems in the Game to make a tsunami about a webpage Game, honestly.
They need to make money, also, You can play it for free, i can assure You that You Will get the same as a player that spent the Insane amount of... 4 dollars.
A man Discover what a Game developer does with new Game modes, gather data, congrats?
Is not like Battlegrounds or any mode that depends on prestige, or spent 1000 dollars to get the Best prizes, so, i can't get why do all this problem for a 10 minutes minigame when You take 2 hours to do Arena milestones, or that 10 minutes to play one BG round, but, okay, we are free to argue and get mad.
Greetings.
the issue isn’t the price or the time it takes to do it — it's the precedent. if players shrug this off, kabam sees it as a greenlight to make more of this 2d arcade mode with a time gated currency, half-baked content monetized through paid shortcuts. so yeah, some of us care if this mode returns, it’s cool now but i genuinely don’t want to see it again, i want to play MCOC, i don’t want this in the game.
don’t act like people raising that concern are overreacting just because it's “only a few bucks.” the cost isn't the problem — the model is.
then, if you do decide to pay for tickets, cool, now you have to sit and watch auto fights on your screen, 60+ times… you’ve turned your screen into a slideshow of the same fight over and over. how are you justifying this?
Are you for or against revive farming like what used to exist?
Because if you are, you have zero ground to stand on when saying you're turning your phone into a slideshow because that's what revive farming is. Auto fighting your way through low level story content. So if you're ok with that then you need to drop.that excuse.
I'm not a super fan of this mode. It's slow, it needs tweeks to how the masteries are done and a few other QOL things. If this mode never returns, I'm fine with it. If it does, cool. The rewards are good enough to want to do it.
But you don't get to decide for the community. You can say you don't like this game mode and everything but there are people who do actually enjoy this. Especially if you have a job where you can't do actual content, this great to do an earn rewards.
Everything in this game can be done if real money is used. That's the whole point of micro transactions. Whether you're buying energy, revives or units etc... it's no different than spending $5 for tickets to knock something out. Having a way to do content faster and easier won't ever stop. Sorry to burst your bubble but everyone typically wants a way to knock things out quickly. I just don't understand why you're taking such a hard line on this but have no other problem with other purchases in the game. Or you're saying they should remove any and all "shortcut purchases"? No more energy refills, revives, health pots, etc.. for real money or units?
Your argument is specious.
Revive farming = Autofight + Rewards = Doom cycle yes. But in every other aspect, it is not.
Revive farming uses your Account. You can only autofight if (1) You've played MCOC long enough to unlock the ability, (2) You've earned rewards from MCOC to obtain and level up champions, (3) Your account progression level qualifies you for special events (or story content) where revive farming is helpful, and (4) You have a specific time goal of when you want to attempt this content since overflow resources can expire.
Doom cycle doesn't use your Account - in fact, unlike Arcade Poker, it doesn't even use any energy resource. Additionally, you are playing this random other game on Kabam's timeline (daily; and you have to do it for 4 weeks if you want the top reward). Plus, while Doom Cycle is happening, there is the opportunity cost of not having a special event that utilizes your account for standard MCOC gameplay. So overflow resources are just expiring since the SOS/WOW type event that would normally happen, is now replaced by this Non-MCOC event.
A lot of the players here supporting (or saying it is not a bad precedent) the event think "easy rewards for no effort" is perfectly acceptable. And that is not what people complaining about the event are even arguing about.
Actually there is, the Dark Phoenix showcase is also running currently. It's not as hard as WoW or Soap or whatever but still has the level of difficulty where resources could be used. Same with the valiant gauntlet.
The argument isn't about using your account. OP specifically stated "auto fights" as their example. Not account specific auto fights. So many people want revive farming back. So if you can't stand auto fighting in this mode, why would you want it back for revive farming? You have to do all that work for some revives but this other mode gives you units and shards for 7* crystals and a titan crystal.
My biggest gripe with us mode is that there's no button or option to speed the game play up. Like having a 2x speed button.
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this “it’s just a test” excuse is naive at best and complicit at worst.
It’s not a flex,..so sorry if i am more than content not playing a game mode i don’t enjoy and not complaining about the rewards i’m missing out on (cause i haven’t complained about that once),.,.and i’m quite content with that.
My original response was that no one is forced to play any game mode (which the OP insinuated).
You do you,.i however will continue to laugh at the mindless sheep that are grinding this yet whining and complaining about it.
I at least have respect for the people that are enjoying it (or don’t mind it).
At the very least they aren’t little dogs barking and whining and crying over it.
…seems pretty pathetic to me.
(1) OP has some concerning issues it seems on a personal level, all of which he has imputed to this trivial dimensional arcade game. I hope he gets help actually.
(2) Clearly no mods are reading this thread (can you blame them? 90% of the posts are from the OP and 2 others just ranting at each other like maniacs).
So basically, if you ever wanted to write anything without censorship, this is your chance.
Baba Booey! Baba Booey! Baba Booey!!
Have a nice day!
seems pretty pathetic to me.
They need to make money, also, You can play it for free, i can assure You that You Will get the same as a player that spent the Insane amount of... 4 dollars.
A man Discover what a Game developer does with new Game modes, gather data, congrats?
Is not like Battlegrounds or any mode that depends on prestige, or spent 1000 dollars to get the Best prizes, so, i can't get why do all this problem for a 10 minutes minigame when You take 2 hours to do Arena milestones, or that 10 minutes to play one BG round, but, okay, we are free to argue and get mad.
Greetings.
don’t act like people raising that concern are overreacting just because it's “only a few bucks.” the cost isn't the problem — the model is.
then, if you do decide to pay for tickets, cool, now you have to sit and watch auto fights on your screen, 60+ times… you’ve turned your screen into a slideshow of the same fight over and over. how are you justifying this?
Yeah, You are overreacting, because is not mandatory
Yeah, that's the point of Roguelike games, just grind and grind, and grind, some people love it, some people hate it, that's the videogame diversity.
The mode will be gone in few weeks, Will dissapear, no Need to waste money or time playing it, prizes are not Game breaking, that's it, just keep playing MCOC, we are actually in Summoner fest, Raid Month, the poker mode, BG Season, AW Season, trust me, that mode is the smallest problem with the Game actually.
– completely miss the point,
– parrot the same shallow “don’t like it, don’t play it” nonsense,
– or act like being willfully oblivious somehow makes them more logical or enlightened.
i gave genuine feedback — and instead of actually engaging with any of it, you and others just hand-wave it all away with “it’s not mandatory” like that magically fixes everything. it’s why this year the game has been so disappointing to begin with after we got that awesome content we call epoch of pain.
so yeah, the mode sucks — but the part that really tilts me is the way people defend it (or mock anyone who criticizes it) while pretending they’re the reasonable ones. i’m not upset over one feature — i’m upset about what it represents, and how too many people in this community are perfectly fine just letting it happen. because then, it’ll keep happening.
its like i’m shouting into a void that’s been preloaded with contrarians. but that doesn’t mean my point’s are wrong — it just means the thread’s been hijacked by people more interested in feeling superior than actually thinking critically. 😂
Kabam with thier numbers: We are generating revenue out of a Side Quest? Omg, let's go harder and bring more of these grind intensive mind numbing modes. Let's go, monetized SQ ftw!!
That's what will be the end result.
Because if you are, you have zero ground to stand on when saying you're turning your phone into a slideshow because that's what revive farming is. Auto fighting your way through low level story content. So if you're ok with that then you need to drop.that excuse.
I'm not a super fan of this mode. It's slow, it needs tweeks to how the masteries are done and a few other QOL things. If this mode never returns, I'm fine with it. If it does, cool. The rewards are good enough to want to do it.
But you don't get to decide for the community. You can say you don't like this game mode and everything but there are people who do actually enjoy this. Especially if you have a job where you can't do actual content, this great to do an earn rewards.
Everything in this game can be done if real money is used. That's the whole point of micro transactions. Whether you're buying energy, revives or units etc... it's no different than spending $5 for tickets to knock something out. Having a way to do content faster and easier won't ever stop. Sorry to burst your bubble but everyone typically wants a way to knock things out quickly. I just don't understand why you're taking such a hard line on this but have no other problem with other purchases in the game. Or you're saying they should remove any and all "shortcut purchases"? No more energy refills, revives, health pots, etc.. for real money or units?
Revive farming = Autofight + Rewards = Doom cycle yes. But in every other aspect, it is not.
Revive farming uses your Account. You can only autofight if (1) You've played MCOC long enough to unlock the ability, (2) You've earned rewards from MCOC to obtain and level up champions, (3) Your account progression level qualifies you for special events (or story content) where revive farming is helpful, and (4) You have a specific time goal of when you want to attempt this content since overflow resources can expire.
Doom cycle doesn't use your Account - in fact, unlike Arcade Poker, it doesn't even use any energy resource. Additionally, you are playing this random other game on Kabam's timeline (daily; and you have to do it for 4 weeks if you want the top reward). Plus, while Doom Cycle is happening, there is the opportunity cost of not having a special event that utilizes your account for standard MCOC gameplay. So overflow resources are just expiring since the SOS/WOW type event that would normally happen, is now replaced by this Non-MCOC event.
A lot of the players here supporting (or saying it is not a bad precedent) the event think "easy rewards for no effort" is perfectly acceptable. And that is not what people complaining about the event are even arguing about.
The argument isn't about using your account. OP specifically stated "auto fights" as their example. Not account specific auto fights. So many people want revive farming back. So if you can't stand auto fighting in this mode, why would you want it back for revive farming? You have to do all that work for some revives but this other mode gives you units and shards for 7* crystals and a titan crystal.
My biggest gripe with us mode is that there's no button or option to speed the game play up. Like having a 2x speed button.