Does Phoenix need to be buffed?

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  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »
    Lemme just bring in other cosmics

    Angela= Up to 3 buffs in Fury or Precision or Armor Up by controlling your power bar
    Drax = Chop away to gain powerful furies and inflicts devastating bleeds
    Hyperion= stand still build you power. USe l1 to apply powerful bleeds. Use one heavy to get 1-5 furies. l2 to stun and armor break. l3 if you want to regen/cosmic charge. Simple to use, but quite effective.
    Sym Spidey= Use l2 for major damage, and chop away for high crits and weakness



    Phoenix= Parry. heavy. parry. heavy. parry. heavy. parry heavy. build to 10 furies. use l1. quick, get in to apply incinerates. Oh, I'm hitting 10 furies gotta get in their and get armor break in. Parry again. Armor break. Oh, need another armor break. parry, parry, parry. Oh ****, I wanna regen gotta kill myself now. And then the parry heavy continues. Ooh gotta l2. Yay, 8 charges. now gotta kill myself. *stand still trying to get smashes* c'mon,c'mon just hit me already. And then by the time the ai hits you, your in overload and regened absolutely nothing.

    That's not how I use her. But sure, say how you don't utilize her, then say everyone fights like you so she sucks. That works, too.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    You're the one arguing. I said that she's really not too bad. I like her, you don't. That's fine. Many need buffed more than her. Ant-Man isn't better than her. If you think so, sorry, I can't help you.

    If you think Phoenix is good, move on. Vote your no and leave. No point hijacking threads.
  • No_More_HeroesNo_More_Heroes Member Posts: 471 ★★
    Buff Phoenix

    Okay, many champs aren't good for high-level content, but there are so many like Luke Cage that aren't even good for low-level content. When we complain about average champs needing buffed, people get mad that actual BAD champs don't get buffed. Like this 13.0 update where Civil Warrior was buffed and Ant-Man wasn't. People got really mad because somewhat good champs are getting buffed before bad ones.

    Yeah but why would I bother using Phoenix when o could use better champs even in low level content? I guess that's my point. For me she has no purpose on my roster except maybe prestige but that's soon going to be in the rear view mirror. Antman can at least be a viable option in AWD. But I don't know why you are arguing against bugging her? Wouldn't that just benefit all the players? I mean leave the prioritization of buff to the game team, you're wasting brain cells thinking like them for them for free.
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »

    I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid. Phoenix isn't great; she's one step above abom and gwen I'll give you that. But there are multiple threads to buff them and when Phoenix was originally released many wanted her buffed, but then Kabam closed it.

    See, I think she's like 5 steps above them. Below Wolverine and Rhino. That's where our opinions differ.
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »

    If you think Phoenix is good, move on. Vote your no and leave. No point hijacking threads.

    It's not hijacking to say I disagree lol. You asked if someone needed buffed, and I told you why I thought they didn't. Then you disputed me, we got into a debate, and I've hijacked this conversation? Lol, this is what the conversation is supposed to be. If you don't want controversy, don't make a poll where people are split.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    It's not hijacking to say I disagree lol. You asked if someone needed buffed, and I told you why I thought they didn't. Then you disputed me, we got into a debate, and I've hijacked this conversation? Lol, this is what the conversation is supposed to be. If you don't want controversy, don't make a poll where people are split.
    they're not split, people want her buffed.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    That's not how I use her. But sure, say how you don't utilize her, then say everyone fights like you so she sucks. That works, too.

    I'm sure using her on map 2 is fun. Maybe you can beat heroic with her sometime!
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    edited June 2017

    Yeah but why would I bother using Phoenix when o could use better champs even in low level content? I guess that's my point. For me she has no purpose on my roster except maybe prestige but that's soon going to be in the rear view mirror. Antman can at least be a viable option in AWD. But I don't know why you are arguing against bugging her? Wouldn't that just benefit all the players? I mean leave the prioritization of buff to the game team, you're wasting brain cells thinking like them for them for free.

    Um, if you don't have better champs. Some champs are better, some are worse. No need to say that if someone is worse, they need to become better. If I have a 4* Groot, and that's my only 4*, I'll use him even though he sucks. Because he's a 4 star. If you have better people, use them. I just don't think she should be buffed unless we're buffing those below her first.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    Um, if you don't have better champs. Some champs are better, some are worse. No need to say that if someone is worse, they need to become better. If I have a 4* Groot, and that's my only 4*, I'll use him even though he sucks. Because he's a 4 star. If you have better people, use them. I just don't think she should be buffed unless we're buffing those below her first.

    You just stated that the only reason you would use her is if you didn't have anyone better lol
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »
    they're not split, people want her buffed.

    Yeah and some obvious don't. GroundedWisdom and I don't want her buffed, but you and No_More_Heroes do. That's 2 on each side. That is the definition of split.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    Yeah and some obvious don't. GroundedWisdom and I don't want her buffed, but you and No_More_Heroes do. That's 2 on each side. That is the definition of split.

    do u need help? the poll shows 14 people want her buffed while 6 do not. Just bc people don't want to comment doesn't mean that you automatically won.
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »

    You just stated that the only reason you would use her is if you didn't have anyone better lol

    That's the only reason you would use anyone. If you have someone better, you wouldn't use the person. Duh. I'm not claiming that Phoenix is the best in the game, so of course I'd use better people if I had them. I'm just saying that she's high enough that she doesn't need bumped up more.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    That's the only reason you would use anyone. If you have someone better, you wouldn't use the person. Duh. I'm not claiming that Phoenix is the best in the game, so of course I'd use better people if I had them. I'm just saying that she's high enough that she doesn't need bumped up more.

    Well obviously a lot of people do not think she is high enough..
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »

    do u need help? the poll shows 14 people want her buffed while 6 do not. Just bc people don't want to comment doesn't mean that you automatically won.

    Sry, forgot to check that part lol. But still, 20 people voted. 6 of 20 are on one side. That's 30%. 30% and 70% is still a split, just not right down the middle. It's still the definition of split, since there is more than one side, I just haven't really used polls often and forgot to check that thing.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    Change doesn't necessarily mean buff.

    Making someone easier to use= buff.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    Sry, forgot to check that part lol. But still, 20 people voted. 6 of 20 are on one side. That's 30%. 30% and 70% is still a split, just not right down the middle. It's still the definition of split, since there is more than one side, I just haven't really used polls often and forgot to check that thing.

    last time I checked a split was 50 50. Go ahead, tell my teachers that if I do 6/20 assignments that it's a split and I should receive credit for that course.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,188 ★★★★★
    No, Phoenix is fine
    Nebula wrote: »

    do u need help? the poll shows 14 people want her buffed while 6 do not. Just bc people don't want to comment doesn't mean that you automatically won.

    Yeah and some obvious don't. GroundedWisdom and I don't want her buffed, but you and No_More_Heroes do. That's 2 on each side. That is the definition of split.

    Well, it's not that I'm against her being buffed. I just don't think she needs it. Part of the skill of playing is getting to know how to maximize a Champ's mechanics. Many Champs have different ways of building their strength. Not every Champ will be strong from the beginning of a Fight. The ones that are pretty much have that going for them and that's about it. She's better for Fights that will take some time. Not every Champ will be viable for every part of the game.
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »

    Well obviously a lot of people do not think she is high enough..

    And? I'm sure there's a guy out there who thinks Star Lord is the worst in the game and needs buffed. People have differing opinions. I differ from you this time. This is a discussion about why or why not she needs buffed, not "well, people agree with me so I'm definitely right".
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    Well, it's not that I'm against her being buffed. I just don't think she needs it. Part of the skill of playing is getting to know how to maximize a Champ's mechanics. Many Champs have different ways of building their strength. Not every Champ will be strong from the beginning of a Fight. The ones that are pretty much have that going for them and that's about it. She's better for Fights that will take some time. Not every Champ will be viable for every part of the game.

    thanks for your opinion websnatcher.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    And? I'm sure there's a guy out there who thinks Star Lord is the worst in the game and needs buffed. People have differing opinions. I differ from you this time. This is a discussion about why or why not she needs buffed, not "well, people agree with me so I'm definitely right".
    yeah but if someone made a poll wanting starlord buffed im like 100% sure he wouldnt get 14 votes saying "yes".
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »

    last time I checked a split was 50 50. Go ahead, tell my teachers that if I do 6/20 assignments that it's a split and I should receive credit for that course.

    Split (verb):
    Divide into two or more groups.

    And, FYI, doing 30% of your problems will get you and F just like doing 50% will.
  • X_ScottX_Scott Member Posts: 732 ★★★
    Buff Phoenix
    She's the queen of marvel. She deserves to be better
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    Split (verb):
    Divide into two or more groups.

    And, FYI, doing 30% of your problems will get you and F just like doing 50% will.

    Majority is ruling in favor of a buff; you and Websnatcher are ruling against. Call it split, but do not say that you speak for the majority.
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »
    yeah but if someone made a poll wanting starlord buffed im like 100% sure he wouldnt get 14 votes saying "yes".

    Majority vote doesn't make something right. People used to think that Earth was flat. That's not true. Donald Trump won the Electoral Vote while Hillary Clinton won the Popular Vote, but Hillary didn't win because Trump played the electoral game better. You have people who agree with you, so go you. Phoenix could use a buff, but she doesn't need one. That's why I technically haven't put in a vote.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 37,188 ★★★★★
    edited June 2017
    No, Phoenix is fine
    If you open a Poll, you can't expect to argue and insult everyone that doesn't agree with your views. That's what makes it a Poll and not a dictatorship.
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »

    Majority is ruling in favor of a buff; you and Websnatcher are ruling against. Call it split, but do not say that you speak for the majority.

    When did I say I speak for the majority? I said we have differing opinions, and you can't force yours down my throat.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix

    Majority vote doesn't make something right. People used to think that Earth was flat. That's not true. Donald Trump won the Electoral Vote while Hillary Clinton won the Popular Vote, but Hillary didn't win because Trump played the electoral game better. You have people who agree with you, so go you. Phoenix could use a buff, but she doesn't need one. That's why I technically haven't put in a vote.

    aaaaand you just said that Donald Trump was the best option, i'm done with you
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »

    thanks for your opinion websnatcher.

    That awkward moment when someone who disagreed with you actually partially agrees with you so you can't argue with them so you just yell at them.
  • CrusherOfDreamsCrusherOfDreams Guest, Member Posts: 1,370 ★★★
    Nebula wrote: »

    aaaaand you just said that Donald Trump was the best option, i'm done with you

    I said he won. Read better.
  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 163
    Buff Phoenix
    If you open a Poll, you can't expect to argue and insult everyone that doesn't agree with your views. That's what makes it a Poll and not a dictatorship.

    I can expect people to be open minded, something that you and crusher lack...
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