Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

Comments

Plantesan

Kabam should just wait until the next AW season comes out to release both. Makes the potential server crash a one-time deal.

It would also allow for them to provide a better product, rather than this “updating by the edge of our seats and hope for the best approach” nonsense going on.

Mmx1991

Evade champs like OG Spidey and Night Crawler wouldn't be bad if they're weren't a broken money grab from the start since they evade and counterattack in one move.

D14rock

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »
What about giving players rank downs now that

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

What about giving players rank downs now that wolvy is useless.. also with the inclusion if sentinels which take forever to take down, you should increase the match timer to 5 minutes.. already without the sentinels, if l you are in an alliance right now with decent prestige, you can't take down nodes in time with 4* Champs anymore.

If you think Wolvy is useless you don’t deserve to have him

I guess I don't deserve him anymore after years of use. Lol. Obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about and are a still a newb.. that's why wolvy is so close to your heart.. I wasn't stating an opinion on wolvy being useless. It is a fact. Wait and see. As useless as your 3* dp

I suppose I’m a pretty decent newb considering I began during the games beta stages, I have now completed act 4, act 5 with no money spent, RoL with no revives used, every single boss rush challenge or Coulson challenge every released, RTTL, my first run on LoL spending 0 real money, all uncollected quests, in a top tier alliance in tier 3/4 Aw, expert tier aq, have a 6* and close to another, have 5 rank 4 5* with the ability to do another 3 and to have a profile over 400k rated. But sure, go ahead thinking I’m a newb.

It is your opinion that wolv will be useless and you are wrong. Over 2/3 of the Aq map will be able to bleed, take him for those fights. You are so wrong it’s laughable.

Well I applaud you for all of your amazing mcoc accomplishments. Didn't realize you were number 1 mcoc player in the world, but your math is way off. Including abomination whom to don't want to bleed, and none of the mini bosses or bosses, there will be 61 nodes on map 5 where you can't bleed opponent. That's not 2/3 of the map. That's not even 40% of the map..

D14rock

Kabam has clearly stated that it's time for us to rank up our armor break champs

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D14rock

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »
What about giving players rank downs now that

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

What about giving players rank downs now that wolvy is useless.. also with the inclusion if sentinels which take forever to take down, you should increase the match timer to 5 minutes.. already without the sentinels, if l you are in an alliance right now with decent prestige, you can't take down nodes in time with 4* Champs anymore.

If you think Wolvy is useless you don’t deserve to have him

I guess I don't deserve him anymore after years of use. Lol. Obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about and are a still a newb.. that's why wolvy is so close to your heart.. I wasn't stating an opinion on wolvy being useless. It is a fact. Wait and see. As useless as your 3* dp

I suppose I’m a pretty decent newb considering I began during the games beta stages, I have now completed act 4, act 5 with no money spent, RoL with no revives used, every single boss rush challenge or Coulson challenge every released, RTTL, my first run on LoL spending 0 real money, all uncollected quests, in a top tier alliance in tier 3/4 Aw, expert tier aq, have a 6* and close to another, have 5 rank 4 5* with the ability to do another 3 and to have a profile over 400k rated. But sure, go ahead thinking I’m a newb.

It is your opinion that wolv will be useless and you are wrong. Over 2/3 of the Aq map will be able to bleed, take him for those fights. You are so wrong it’s laughable.

Well I applaud you for all of your amazing mcoc accomplishments. Didn't realize you were number 1 mcoc player in the world, but your math is way off. Including abomination whom to don't want to bleed, and none of the mini bosses or bosses, there will be 61 nodes on map 5 where you can't bleed opponent. That's not 2/3 of the map. That's not even 40% of the map..

I can’t be bothered to do the maths, but even if it’s half of the map or a third of the map that can bleed. Wolverine is one third of your aq team. So what if he can do one third of the fights.

That's not including the to rockets and iron mans, whom are beatable, but still... I mean I guess I'm wrong.. if you are the world's greatest player who doesn't need revives to best every game mode and are too stubborn to retire your wolvy for your better 5* and 6* options the would have better utility, then wolvy is definitely not useless to you. Lol

DNA3000

D14rock wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »
What about giving players rank downs now that

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

What about giving players rank downs now that wolvy is useless.. also with the inclusion if sentinels which take forever to take down, you should increase the match timer to 5 minutes.. already without the sentinels, if l you are in an alliance right now with decent prestige, you can't take down nodes in time with 4* Champs anymore.

If you think Wolvy is useless you don’t deserve to have him

I guess I don't deserve him anymore after years of use. Lol. Obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about and are a still a newb.. that's why wolvy is so close to your heart.. I wasn't stating an opinion on wolvy being useless. It is a fact. Wait and see. As useless as your 3* dp

I suppose I’m a pretty decent newb considering I began during the games beta stages, I have now completed act 4, act 5 with no money spent, RoL with no revives used, every single boss rush challenge or Coulson challenge every released, RTTL, my first run on LoL spending 0 real money, all uncollected quests, in a top tier alliance in tier 3/4 Aw, expert tier aq, have a 6* and close to another, have 5 rank 4 5* with the ability to do another 3 and to have a profile over 400k rated. But sure, go ahead thinking I’m a newb.

It is your opinion that wolv will be useless and you are wrong. Over 2/3 of the Aq map will be able to bleed, take him for those fights. You are so wrong it’s laughable.

Well I applaud you for all of your amazing mcoc accomplishments. Didn't realize you were number 1 mcoc player in the world, but your math is way off. Including abomination whom to don't want to bleed, and none of the mini bosses or bosses, there will be 61 nodes on map 5 where you can't bleed opponent. That's not 2/3 of the map. That's not even 40% of the map..

Seems unfair to me to first call a player a newb, then criticize them for bragging about their accomplishments.

The math is off, but the presumption is that all the places where the targets are currently bleed immune have nothing to do with the Sentinels making Wolverine useless, because those nodes are already immune. If you're already doing the immunity path with Wolverine, for example, then you don't care about robot immunity. If you care about Abomination's bleeds, you probably aren't doing that path with Wolverine either. If you were *only* using Wolverine on Syms, well then that might be a problem but Syms were about half of most paths.

I think Wolverine will still be fine on paths 2, 4, 6, 7, and 8 in stage one of Map 5, and paths 1, 4, 5, and 6 in stage 2. Path 7 if you were already doing it now. And anything in the middle in stage 3. But we'll see.

Arttton

Kabam Miike wrote: »

420sam wrote: »

So, you are making it more difficult yet not adjusting anything like rewards or even glory? Can I ask why? How does this benefit the players?

As we said in that post, we are working on a full refresh. We are not at a place or time where we can increase the rewards or fully refresh the mode right now.

If you are working on a full refresh than what is the point of this change again?

did the community ask for new bosses and sentinel addition?

can i have only one logical reason?

D14rock

DNA3000 wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »
What about giving players rank downs now that

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

What about giving players rank downs now that wolvy is useless.. also with the inclusion if sentinels which take forever to take down, you should increase the match timer to 5 minutes.. already without the sentinels, if l you are in an alliance right now with decent prestige, you can't take down nodes in time with 4* Champs anymore.

If you think Wolvy is useless you don’t deserve to have him

I guess I don't deserve him anymore after years of use. Lol. Obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about and are a still a newb.. that's why wolvy is so close to your heart.. I wasn't stating an opinion on wolvy being useless. It is a fact. Wait and see. As useless as your 3* dp

I suppose I’m a pretty decent newb considering I began during the games beta stages, I have now completed act 4, act 5 with no money spent, RoL with no revives used, every single boss rush challenge or Coulson challenge every released, RTTL, my first run on LoL spending 0 real money, all uncollected quests, in a top tier alliance in tier 3/4 Aw, expert tier aq, have a 6* and close to another, have 5 rank 4 5* with the ability to do another 3 and to have a profile over 400k rated. But sure, go ahead thinking I’m a newb.

It is your opinion that wolv will be useless and you are wrong. Over 2/3 of the Aq map will be able to bleed, take him for those fights. You are so wrong it’s laughable.

Well I applaud you for all of your amazing mcoc accomplishments. Didn't realize you were number 1 mcoc player in the world, but your math is way off. Including abomination whom to don't want to bleed, and none of the mini bosses or bosses, there will be 61 nodes on map 5 where you can't bleed opponent. That's not 2/3 of the map. That's not even 40% of the map..

Seems unfair to me to first call a player a newb, then criticize them for bragging about their accomplishments.

The math is off, but the presumption is that all the places where the targets are currently bleed immune have nothing to do with the Sentinels making Wolverine useless, because those nodes are already immune. If you're already doing the immunity path with Wolverine, for example, then you don't care about robot immunity. If you care about Abomination's bleeds, you probably aren't doing that path with Wolverine either. If you were *only* using Wolverine on Syms, well then that might be a problem but Syms were about half of most paths.

I think Wolverine will still be fine on paths 2, 4, 6, 7, and 8 in stage one of Map 5, and paths 1, 4, 5, and 6 in stage 2. Path 7 if you were already doing it now. And anything in the middle in stage 3. But we'll see.

I personally think wolvy will be replaced by blade if you want to bring a champ who can bleed and regen. His regen is more reliable, he doesnt have pillow fists, and is available as a 5*. If there were a 5* version of wolvy, I woukd take it all back, but there's not, and no plans to, according to kabam. 4*s are just becoming harder and harder to use in late aq days. With wolvy having such low health, 1 small slip and he's gone. And if you fight perfectly, the fight takes forever..

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Monkey17288

I’m just glad there is finially a spot I can use my 6* Deadpool x-force. Oh wait...nope still useless

DNA3000

TheOneAndOnly wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

What about giving players rank downs now that wolvy is useless.. also with the inclusion if sentinels which take forever to take down, you should increase the match timer to 5 minutes.. already without the sentinels, if l you are in an alliance right now with decent prestige, you can't take down nodes in time with 4* Champs anymore.

If you think Wolvy is useless you don’t deserve to have him

Day 5 Wolverine on debuff immune path against CB can go to the wire if you are not aggressive enough.

If you're on the immune path you should be able to recover the half health penalty on the next fight.

D14rock wrote: »

DNA3000 wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »
What about giving players rank downs now that

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

What about giving players rank downs now that wolvy is useless.. also with the inclusion if sentinels which take forever to take down, you should increase the match timer to 5 minutes.. already without the sentinels, if l you are in an alliance right now with decent prestige, you can't take down nodes in time with 4* Champs anymore.

If you think Wolvy is useless you don’t deserve to have him

I guess I don't deserve him anymore after years of use. Lol. Obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about and are a still a newb.. that's why wolvy is so close to your heart.. I wasn't stating an opinion on wolvy being useless. It is a fact. Wait and see. As useless as your 3* dp

I suppose I’m a pretty decent newb considering I began during the games beta stages, I have now completed act 4, act 5 with no money spent, RoL with no revives used, every single boss rush challenge or Coulson challenge every released, RTTL, my first run on LoL spending 0 real money, all uncollected quests, in a top tier alliance in tier 3/4 Aw, expert tier aq, have a 6* and close to another, have 5 rank 4 5* with the ability to do another 3 and to have a profile over 400k rated. But sure, go ahead thinking I’m a newb.

It is your opinion that wolv will be useless and you are wrong. Over 2/3 of the Aq map will be able to bleed, take him for those fights. You are so wrong it’s laughable.

Well I applaud you for all of your amazing mcoc accomplishments. Didn't realize you were number 1 mcoc player in the world, but your math is way off. Including abomination whom to don't want to bleed, and none of the mini bosses or bosses, there will be 61 nodes on map 5 where you can't bleed opponent. That's not 2/3 of the map. That's not even 40% of the map..

Seems unfair to me to first call a player a newb, then criticize them for bragging about their accomplishments.

The math is off, but the presumption is that all the places where the targets are currently bleed immune have nothing to do with the Sentinels making Wolverine useless, because those nodes are already immune. If you're already doing the immunity path with Wolverine, for example, then you don't care about robot immunity. If you care about Abomination's bleeds, you probably aren't doing that path with Wolverine either. If you were *only* using Wolverine on Syms, well then that might be a problem but Syms were about half of most paths.

I think Wolverine will still be fine on paths 2, 4, 6, 7, and 8 in stage one of Map 5, and paths 1, 4, 5, and 6 in stage 2. Path 7 if you were already doing it now. And anything in the middle in stage 3. But we'll see.

I personally think wolvy will be replaced by blade if you want to bring a champ who can bleed and regen. His regen is more reliable, he doesnt have pillow fists, and is available as a 5*. If there were a 5* version of wolvy, I woukd take it all back, but there's not, and no plans to, according to kabam. 4*s are just becoming harder and harder to use in late aq days. With wolvy having such low health, 1 small slip and he's gone. And if you fight perfectly, the fight takes forever..

That may be, but if you have a Blade you can use to replace Wolverine I'm not sure why you wouldn't be using him now. In every way that Blade is better than Wolverine for the new AQ, he's also better than Wolverine now.

I have Blade but since I use him in AW I generally don't use him in AQ, because his advantages aren't worth constantly switching back and forth with something else. I prefer getting consistent practice with my normal (miniboss dependent) AQ team.

D14rock

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

DNA3000 wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »
What about giving players rank downs now that

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

What about giving players rank downs now that wolvy is useless.. also with the inclusion if sentinels which take forever to take down, you should increase the match timer to 5 minutes.. already without the sentinels, if l you are in an alliance right now with decent prestige, you can't take down nodes in time with 4* Champs anymore.

If you think Wolvy is useless you don’t deserve to have him

I guess I don't deserve him anymore after years of use. Lol. Obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about and are a still a newb.. that's why wolvy is so close to your heart.. I wasn't stating an opinion on wolvy being useless. It is a fact. Wait and see. As useless as your 3* dp

I suppose I’m a pretty decent newb considering I began during the games beta stages, I have now completed act 4, act 5 with no money spent, RoL with no revives used, every single boss rush challenge or Coulson challenge every released, RTTL, my first run on LoL spending 0 real money, all uncollected quests, in a top tier alliance in tier 3/4 Aw, expert tier aq, have a 6* and close to another, have 5 rank 4 5* with the ability to do another 3 and to have a profile over 400k rated. But sure, go ahead thinking I’m a newb.

It is your opinion that wolv will be useless and you are wrong. Over 2/3 of the Aq map will be able to bleed, take him for those fights. You are so wrong it’s laughable.

Well I applaud you for all of your amazing mcoc accomplishments. Didn't realize you were number 1 mcoc player in the world, but your math is way off. Including abomination whom to don't want to bleed, and none of the mini bosses or bosses, there will be 61 nodes on map 5 where you can't bleed opponent. That's not 2/3 of the map. That's not even 40% of the map..

Seems unfair to me to first call a player a newb, then criticize them for bragging about their accomplishments.

The math is off, but the presumption is that all the places where the targets are currently bleed immune have nothing to do with the Sentinels making Wolverine useless, because those nodes are already immune. If you're already doing the immunity path with Wolverine, for example, then you don't care about robot immunity. If you care about Abomination's bleeds, you probably aren't doing that path with Wolverine either. If you were *only* using Wolverine on Syms, well then that might be a problem but Syms were about half of most paths.

I think Wolverine will still be fine on paths 2, 4, 6, 7, and 8 in stage one of Map 5, and paths 1, 4, 5, and 6 in stage 2. Path 7 if you were already doing it now. And anything in the middle in stage 3. But we'll see.

I personally think wolvy will be replaced by blade if you want to bring a champ who can bleed and regen. His regen is more reliable, he doesnt have pillow fists, and is available as a 5*. If there were a 5* version of wolvy, I woukd take it all back, but there's not, and no plans to, according to kabam. 4*s are just becoming harder and harder to use in late aq days. With wolvy having such low health, 1 small slip and he's gone. And if you fight perfectly, the fight takes forever..

Blade will be in Aw, where the better rewards are. Until aq is updated and better than Aw, Aw seasons and mystic war is where Blade will be

True that Blade is better for AW, but still better regen options for a IMO. GR is great for aq 4* or 5*, 5* x23 doesn't compare to solve in terms of regen, but she doesnt need her bleed and can still be usefully against bots, 5* rogue, and I haven't played with him much, but KG is supposed to be way more reliable than wolvy for regen. I'm not saying wolvy is just terrible champs. He's still god tier 4*, but will be needing replaced by many people now just because he simply doesn't have enough damage output to compare with 5* champs

Spurgeon14

Kiryu wrote: »

4* og thor making a comeback

He never left. Except he's only a 4*. Besides that he's great!

D14rock

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

DNA3000 wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »
What about giving players rank downs now that

BitterSteel wrote: »

D14rock wrote: »

What about giving players rank downs now that wolvy is useless.. also with the inclusion if sentinels which take forever to take down, you should increase the match timer to 5 minutes.. already without the sentinels, if l you are in an alliance right now with decent prestige, you can't take down nodes in time with 4* Champs anymore.

If you think Wolvy is useless you don’t deserve to have him

I guess I don't deserve him anymore after years of use. Lol. Obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about and are a still a newb.. that's why wolvy is so close to your heart.. I wasn't stating an opinion on wolvy being useless. It is a fact. Wait and see. As useless as your 3* dp

I suppose I’m a pretty decent newb considering I began during the games beta stages, I have now completed act 4, act 5 with no money spent, RoL with no revives used, every single boss rush challenge or Coulson challenge every released, RTTL, my first run on LoL spending 0 real money, all uncollected quests, in a top tier alliance in tier 3/4 Aw, expert tier aq, have a 6* and close to another, have 5 rank 4 5* with the ability to do another 3 and to have a profile over 400k rated. But sure, go ahead thinking I’m a newb.

It is your opinion that wolv will be useless and you are wrong. Over 2/3 of the Aq map will be able to bleed, take him for those fights. You are so wrong it’s laughable.

Well I applaud you for all of your amazing mcoc accomplishments. Didn't realize you were number 1 mcoc player in the world, but your math is way off. Including abomination whom to don't want to bleed, and none of the mini bosses or bosses, there will be 61 nodes on map 5 where you can't bleed opponent. That's not 2/3 of the map. That's not even 40% of the map..

Seems unfair to me to first call a player a newb, then criticize them for bragging about their accomplishments.

The math is off, but the presumption is that all the places where the targets are currently bleed immune have nothing to do with the Sentinels making Wolverine useless, because those nodes are already immune. If you're already doing the immunity path with Wolverine, for example, then you don't care about robot immunity. If you care about Abomination's bleeds, you probably aren't doing that path with Wolverine either. If you were *only* using Wolverine on Syms, well then that might be a problem but Syms were about half of most paths.

I think Wolverine will still be fine on paths 2, 4, 6, 7, and 8 in stage one of Map 5, and paths 1, 4, 5, and 6 in stage 2. Path 7 if you were already doing it now. And anything in the middle in stage 3. But we'll see.

I personally think wolvy will be replaced by blade if you want to bring a champ who can bleed and regen. His regen is more reliable, he doesnt have pillow fists, and is available as a 5*. If there were a 5* version of wolvy, I woukd take it all back, but there's not, and no plans to, according to kabam. 4*s are just becoming harder and harder to use in late aq days. With wolvy having such low health, 1 small slip and he's gone. And if you fight perfectly, the fight takes forever..

Blade will be in Aw, where the better rewards are. Until aq is updated and better than Aw, Aw seasons and mystic war is where Blade will be

. I'm not saying wolvy is just terrible champs. He's still god tier 4*

So are you saying he’s useless now or are you saying he’s god tier? Those are contradictory statements

Not contradictory at all if you read that i said among 4*s. I do think he is more useless now when it comes to AQ, Like he has been for a long time now in AW and not to useful in act 5 either. If you go back to my original argument, you would see that wolvy is the example I used since he is the most popular 4* aq champ. Same can be said for damage output if you're talking about vision or the 4* rogue too, or ultron.I don't really care what weak 4* you refer to. My point was that the timers just aren't long enough when using 4*s. Is that clearer for you?

GroundedWisdom

Funny script, but nothing has been increased. It's going to be challenging because they're different Champs. Not because the game has been greatly altered. Lol. It's just new.

Speeds80

Barely anybody else thinks that gw, it’s well known that some champs are much harder to beat than others, sentinels are harder because they are immune, gain unstoppable specials, their specials are harder to dodge than syms, not rocket science, Morningstar is harder especially if she will be unstoppable after her l1 and rules out all the mid tier players who don’t have a decent bleed immune champ ranked yet, I beat nc most days in aq on stun immune and sure ts doable, but it’s still a much harder fight than the current minibosses, and Gg’s l1 is quite tricky to evade, not gonna be a fun change, it will be very challenging, but tbh if they fix the lag and blocked drops I’ll be fine

Mmx1991

Speeds80 wrote: »

but tbh if they fix the lag and blocked drops I’ll be fine

Ya, it wouldn't be that bad if the game worked properly and fairly. Hard content isn't a problem but an unfair game is.

Onmix

@Deadbyrd9
In my alliance we don’t do things that way. We each have our path and use champs according to that path. And really only one guy NEEDS to bring a bleed immune. Many bring ultron cuz he regens but maybe you wouldn’t bring a bleed immune if you didn’t have him. I’ve never brought a bleed immune champ simply because my best and only option is vision and his durability is low. I prefer a champ that regens. Many do. More so given that my path is immunes and I take block damage.

The point is, what happens when you don’t have a bleed immune champ other than Colossuss. You’re not going to defeat the boss. It just won’t happen. And maybe that’s the way it should be. Some guys always taking some minis while others a different mini.
Maybe it’s teamwork that they are after.
I for myself would like a difficult champ but beatable. Morningstar is not always beatable. NC and GG are. I’d be disappointed if I couldn’t beat a mini for bad luck (not having certain champs) instead of bad skills.

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OPIE

Did you guys ever figure out who was effected by the emergency maintenance during the trial of the event. Apparently you were looking into it but still haven't heard. I'm still waiting. Is this why the rewards for refresh AQ aren't bring buffed because you're still looking into it?

Hemi_123

What about players like us,, level 1 to 55,, we only have 5 or 6 rank 5 4 stars. And dont have good champ to compete with these new bosses and sentinels. We upgraded those 4,5 champs according to current requirements of game.. so now we need to start from the begining to build up roasters. Its better to stop playing this game. After alot of hard work we ungraded wol, gr . Now they will be useless. You guys are making this geme for only top players. You should change map6 bosses , because players out there already have all kind of champs to compete with anykind of boss. But we cant defeat nc without iceman ,, sentinels with out medusa or hyperion.. so whats our mistake???

Hemi_123

It took one and half year for me to upgrade 5 4* champion to rank 5. And 3 of them will become useless after this update, that means i am no longer be able to play map 5 for next 1 year. You guys should consider players like us before any kind of such changing.

General_Vis

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

Vdh2008

Ah, good. Another example of Kabam "transparency".

Listen... I think Kabam would get a **** load less slack if they were just honest...

"We have noticed a decline in our profits from AQ. As such, because we are a business, and our primary focus is on making money, we need to make the maps harder because the community has stronger rosters now."

It's insulting to us that you come on here and tell us that "it's not harder" when it demonstrably is. @DNA3000 has a great post in this thread describing how.

After 12.0 the company "apologized" and promised more transparency. Yet the changes since including this latest one, show the opposite is true.

......

Oh, look new rifts to distract everyone from this debacle! Let's just pretend this didn't happen. Classic Kabam.

Hemi_123

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

I am not just talking about me,, i am talking about all the players at my level, those only have 4,5 champs at rank 5 4*. So when u rank up your champ what things you consider first?? Either this champion will help me in aq or aw or you just rank up any champion??? And top players having issues dealing against nc. Its not only my problem. If you have a good roaster and you are at level 60, and have good 5* champ, than my post was not for you

Kpatrix

Hemi_123 wrote: »

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

I am not just talking about me,, i am talking about all the players at my level, those only have 4,5 champs at rank 5 4*. So when u rank up your champ what things you consider first?? Either this champion will help me in aq or aw or you just rank up any champion??? And top players having issues dealing against nc. Its not only my problem. If you have a good roaster and you are at level 60, and have good 5* champ, than my post was not for you

You're kind of missing the point, lots of older players ranked for prestige first and didn't even use those champs because they weren't good aq attackers. Back then you would run r4 4* because those were better than you're r5 prestige champs.

It sucks that they are upgrading mid season, but keep in mind, a new season is coming which we all know will have another increase in difficulty. They are just introducing it in two parts instead of one major shift to try to keep the uproar down.

Hemi_123

Kpatrix wrote: »

Hemi_123 wrote: »

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

I am not just talking about me,, i am talking about all the players at my level, those only have 4,5 champs at rank 5 4*. So when u rank up your champ what things you consider first?? Either this champion will help me in aq or aw or you just rank up any champion??? And top players having issues dealing against nc. Its not only my problem. If you have a good roaster and you are at level 60, and have good 5* champ, than my post was not for you

You're kind of missing the point, lots of older players ranked for prestige first and didn't even use those champs because they weren't good aq attackers. Back then you would run r4 4* because those were better than you're r5 prestige champs.

It sucks that they are upgrading mid season, but keep in mind, a new season is coming which we all know will have another increase in difficulty. They are just introducing it in two parts instead of one major shift to try to keep the uproar down.

Buddy in my alliance,, in my friends alliance,, in my friend’s friend alliance .. we all rank up only those champions first that help us in aq and aw.. we are not at a level where we consider presitge first,, you are missing a point that i am talking about level 30 to 55

Hemi_123

Hemi_123 wrote: »

Kpatrix wrote: »

Hemi_123 wrote: »

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

General_Vis wrote: »

If you ranked up champions specifically for the current minibosses then that’s on you. It sucks that they’re introducing these changes mid-season but they could easily have announced a new season and completely changed the opponents anyway.

Also if you can’t beat NC without Iceman then again that’s more your own problem.

I am not just talking about me,, i am talking about all the players at my level, those only have 4,5 champs at rank 5 4*. So when u rank up your champ what things you consider first?? Either this champion will help me in aq or aw or you just rank up any champion??? And top players having issues dealing against nc. Its not only my problem. If you have a good roaster and you are at level 60, and have good 5* champ, than my post was not for you

You're kind of missing the point, lots of older players ranked for prestige first and didn't even use those champs because they weren't good aq attackers. Back then you would run r4 4* because those were better than you're r5 prestige champs.

It sucks that they are upgrading mid season, but keep in mind, a new season is coming which we all know will have another increase in difficulty. They are just introducing it in two parts instead of one major shift to try to keep the uproar down.

Buddy in my alliance,, in my friends alliance,, in my friend’s friend alliance .. we all rank up only those champions first that help us in aq and aw.. we are not at a level where we consider presitge first,, you are missing a point that i am talking about level 30 to 55

So basically i am talking about 70 to 80% people ,, and you are representing 10 to 20 top players