Alliance Quest Miniboss and Sentinel Refresh - April 2018 - Discussion Thread [Updated April 13]

Summoners,

We've just announced a small refresh of Alliance Quests that will start April 2nd. This will include new Minibosses, and a farewell to our Symbioid friends!

Read all about it, then ask your questions!

UPDATE:
We've just posted an update in regards to your feedback on Alliance Quests. This post includes some adjustments to Sentinels and Alliance Quests that will be coming with the next series (Starting April 18th). Take a look right here: http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/62626/upcoming-adjustments-to-alliance-quests-april-18th-2018

Comments

Maat1985

Tonedef wrote: »

I can’t remember the last time anyone in my BG was 100% dead before fighting Dormz. Even without losing my Angela because of Freeze-Lag I’m still in much worse shape than I usually would be at this point on Day 5. I guess I ought to start doing the Halls of Boredom again.

Of course cus fighting everything exactly the same, day in day out you get very good at it.....
Now keep this screenshot.... next week take another.... next week take another..... and i dare say there will be improvement until one day we are fighting the sentieloids with no problem.

Karakanli

Ladies and gentlemen...

I still use by x23/wolvie for Map5 pathes 4/7/4 and they are doing Great. Little adjustments in playing and they still work Fine against all talents debuffimmun or not. There are enough AVs, GPS and CBs and Even the sentinels to trigger Regeneration.
But Never use them against mystic sentinels...

Am I an idiot? 😱

Speeds80

Will she timeout on day 5 is the question

Karakanli

We will know by saturday, though they didnt time out on debuff lane vs other champs on day5... 😉

Maat1985

Karakanli wrote: »

Ladies and gentlemen...

I still use by x23/wolvie for Map5 pathes 4/7/4 and they are doing Great. Little adjustments in playing and they still work Fine against all talents debuffimmun or not. There are enough AVs, GPS and CBs and Even the sentinels to trigger Regeneration.
But Never use them against mystic sentinels...

Am I an idiot? 😱

If they still work for you then great......

You would be an idiot if they no longer worked and you kept trying them anyway

Karakanli

@Maat1985 Thats for sure 😝

Short question: just had a fight with over 40 analysis charges.
At 50 it stopped increasing furthermore though I should have caused increasing Counter by purposely double- or Even tripple-acting the same move. 🤔 Thought it should count up to 100???

Is this a change or has it always been like this in AQ? Thanks in advance!

Polderpommie

It’s not the change that frustrates me. I can adapt. I can rank up different champs to be better equipped. But I don’t know how long this “refresh” is going to last. Is this just to bridge a few weeks until the next season? Is this going to run as long as a regular season now?

This week I was expecting rather a lot of excitement with the first round of aw season rewards. Instead, the general mood across all the allis I’m involved in is just deflated.

Some clarity on how long this is going to last - even just a ballpark - would go a long way to putting minds at ease. As so often, this is a communications issue.

Karakanli

@Polderpommie i couldnt agree more. The silence on kabams side watching us discussing their „small update for something refreshing new in AQ“ on 20+x soon 30+x thread pages is one of the most irritating facts.
Especially as they regularly state they want to keep us up to Date...

Blitzkilla420

just bump the rewards for aq soon so we can all fight in peace

Maat1985

Karakanli wrote: »

@Maat1985 Thats for sure 😝

Short question: just had a fight with over 40 analysis charges.
At 50 it stopped increasing furthermore though I should have caused increasing Counter by purposely double- or Even tripple-acting the same move. 🤔 Thought it should count up to 100???

Is this a change or has it always been like this in AQ? Thanks in advance!

I noticed this exact thing happen v the sentineloids in the event quest also....
It appears that it is designed as such....

Bapoi

Stop.
Calling.
Them.
Sentineloids.

They're not symbioids that were essentially adaptoids with venom infusion.

They're Sentinels.
Period.

I do not wish to see Sentineloids. Large hulking crossbreed Venom things. No thanks.

They're Sentinels.
And they're fine bar the skill one. Skill one sucks donkey testes...

Maat1985

Bapoi wrote: »

Stop.
Calling.
Them.
Sentineloids.

They're not symbioids that were essentially adaptoids with venom infusion.

They're Sentinels.
Period.

I do not wish to see Sentineloids. Large hulking crossbreed Venom things. No thanks.

They're Sentinels.
And they're fine bar the skill one. Skill one sucks donkey testes...

jeez.... chill.... lol...

Only calling the sentineloids cus i think it sounds cool and differs them from the main sentinel....
Sorry to offend you... lol...

Magiknight

Those sentinels just keep defending, making the fight boring and leading to time out. Just release onother map (without being so expensive like map 6) to make things interesting (not boring to death).

Karakanli

Ah no. in the Event I suffered some full analysis at 100 stacks. Finished it few weeks ago so maybe they changed it during EQ running?

GarryDK

I am all for harder content, Sentinels are alot harder than syms. I know Miike has said they are not but they clearly are, unblockable specials, immunity IS harder than syms. If content is made harder then rewards should be adjusted. Most people now need to rank new champs to cope with this difficulty change, which again is fine we shouldn't be stapled to the same champs all the time, but again if we are dealing with the same rewards how is that possible? . All of us are working harder, learning harder and in some cases spending more for zero increase in rewards. That is wrong on every level.

CovahYdoolB

@Matt1985
I see your point with sentinels but they have not released any content in game to improve gameplay VS them via duels, quest, anything I can think of that will allow us to improve our skill without wasting a bunch of money on being destroyed by the things a month or two down the road till they decide to change the game or make a small side quest to fight all sentinels for practice. Wouldn’t that make more sense! Instead of releasing updated bosses that become finale unblockable for more revenue. Sentinel with no way to practice against them but by using items and get wrecked day in and day out till someone NOT FROM KABAM gives us tips and guides best to defeat them. Ask yourself are ther sentinels in act 5 we can practice on all classes? Cause they can’t afford to actually help there player base out once in awhile! If you agree let me know! If you disagree let me know!

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CovahYdoolB

You can’t say last months quest was practice none of the sentinels had unblockable specials or insane power gain like they do in AQ!! Instead of making bossrush they should have made sentinel rush.

MEKA5

@Kabam Miike @Ad0ra_ you ask for players feedback, which is quite constructive so far...while not providing any return. This is just wrong.

Maat1985

CovahYdoolB wrote: »

@Matt1985
I see your point with sentinels but they have not released any content in game to improve gameplay VS them via duels, quest, anything I can think of that will allow us to improve our skill without wasting a bunch of money on being destroyed by the things a month or two down the road till they decide to change the game or make a small side quest to fight all sentinels for practice. Wouldn’t that make more sense! Instead of releasing updated bosses that become finale unblockable for more revenue. Sentinel with no way to practice against them but by using items and get wrecked day in and day out till someone NOT FROM KABAM gives us tips and guides best to defeat them. Ask yourself are ther sentinels in act 5 we can practice on all classes? Cause they can’t afford to actually help there player base out once in awhile! If you agree let me know! If you disagree let me know!

That is actually a good point.... all these sentinels have different abilities to regular sentinel and we cannot find them for practice.... mayb kabam could create some dummy accounts with these varing sentinels sonwe can have something to practice on

jevitor

Sentinels have CONSIDERABLY increased the level of difficulty of QA. The difference is HUGE and the pleasure is gone!

Zeke_the_Xbot

Yep glad to see Sentinel AI is set up with a what like .01-1% chance to use specials. They seem to have an unmarked L2 Bias. Spend several attempts trying to bait the L1 only to miss time and evade get comboed and they get their L2 and low and behold they are more then happy to spam that ability.

Legendsend

Maat1985 wrote: »

No need for insults.....

I get the analagy just fine....
But it is not totally correct....

My boss asks me to do a harder task then normal....
I ask him for more money....
He says well do it for a while... we will see how you go and then we will talk....

Hard work first.... pay increase after....

How can you not understand that.... Action A happens before Action B happens....

Evn if i go to my boss and say
I need more money...
He will say
Do this harder job.... once i i know you can do it well then we will talk...

Hard work first.... more money later... simple

You're working the wrong way... And you're obviously fine with being underpaid...Good for you,
Not for me... unfortunately that mind frame is your problem... Elite do not think that way

Rednick69

I assume this is why they have the hauls of healing going is for the new AQ bs they put in. I know more people are using items now.

Legendsend

ItsTheBroski wrote: »

phillgreen wrote: »

This will sound harsh but isn't the usual advice given to everyone on the forum who has an issue with content difficulty to either "git gud" or "not all content is for all summoners blah blah blah"?

Seems to me, some might benefit from dropping a map down, you know, where the content suits their ability and roster?

The problem with most on here isn't skill. It's the fact that Kabam make AQ harder without bumping up the rewards you feel?

Exactly... I'm completing it with no problem as I've said on the other forum posts but they act like it's not harder and give no better rewards... others in my alliance aren't doing as well and it's not right... I just want compensation... don't change **** about your changes, just give me my compensation

MaddMatt05

I want to add my 2 cents that my entire allince is of the opinion this is an increase in difficulty without an increase in rewards. Even if the difficulty is primarily due to its newness, we have been presented with a challenge to adapt to, with rewards that were already feeling outdated to congragulate us for overcoming this challenge. We aren’t at a place to update rewards sounds very fishy to me. If it is unfeasable to do SOME kind of incremental reward increase, then it is also not feasable to update the opponents as well. Esecially without sharing any further update plans beyond, “we arent there yet with the community”

While I have grown used to Kabam’s approach to development, this is just another item in the con list, and it has me considering trying to move my alliance on to a new game, where the management doesn’t seem have such disregard for the players.

PS: I do want to add that I love the concept behind the Sentinels, but the rollout, especially lacking rewards, is where the problem lies.

Vani11a_Gori11a

The problem with Sentinels taking the place of Symbioids is no matter the class, EVERY Sentinel's attack is the SAME! At least the Symioids have different attacks for different Classes. Now half the fights in AQ are EXACTLY THE SAME. BORING CONTENT

TheBlackDefense

You have some nerve you change the mini-bosses and the symbiods and not the rewards and say it's because you aren't increasig the difficulty? That is a load. let's just start with the largest elephant in the post symbiods to sentineliods symbiods were usually vulnerable to bleed and poison sentineliods are not making those fights significantly more difficult. The abilities of sentineliods also significantly increase the difficulty. Then with the bosses Cable to Nightcrawler a champ that was not that difficult to fight to a champ the evades everything you throw at him as if we don't get enough of Nightcrawler in Alliance War Lol. And again changing those to increases the difficulty. And you have the nerve to day you will change Alliance Quest and not increase the rewards because "YOU" think it doesn't increase the difficulty
Come on
Since they took down my post

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