Kabam we want more transparency. Wasn't that what you guys said you'd start doing?
Constructive criticism: what happened to transparency with the community? We need it since we can tell when things have changed without you guys telling us.
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
Are you Kabam Mike?
Certainly not. However, this is a Forum, not an Inbox. It's for Players to communicate as well as staff.
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
silent nerf happens no one at kabam bats an eye....but when we talk about it kabam is like nope doesn't exist....
This is why i don't wanna play anymore lol XD
They are latching into this claim of a frame rate drop that they have fixed. I play on an iPhone 8+ used to play on a galaxy s6. If I have landed 1000 parry against a mordo he has astral evaded my drax 0.00 times. The rational does not add up or hold water or whatever you want to say. To be honest, this won’t impact me. My rank 4 drax will still kill techs and most other champs efficiently and tbh I probably will still use him against mordo cause his bleeds will still take him down in no time. The bigger issue is the dishonesty, the not mentioning it, the changing aa out of no where making him less effective, changing sym and Gwen’s evade to passive, etc.
Personally I have no faith that any champ in game is safe long term. I am at 95% act 5 with no motivation to finish because why bother taking anyone to rank 5 when tomorrow they can adjust the champ with no recourse. It sucks but it is what it is
That's just it right? Again broken trust in Kabam... I had thought about investing in Deadpool but now No way no how.
The fact is they made a change in the mechanics of the game (even if it is frame rate) which has had an extremely negative impact on champs and are basically brushing it off.
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
There was no change to Drax. It was all our old devices that had lower frame rates which allowed Drax to get his second hit in...
So the fact that Mordo is firing off his blast faster then Drax can land his second hit has nothing to do with it.
The point is Drax wasn't intended to bypass it.
No, the point is that there was no transparency. When they fix or update a champ, they should be telling us about it, not do it on the sly. Patch notes mentioned AA 'fix', but all of these other fixes were not mentioned. Community trust is eroding because of this. regardless of whether so and so is or is not bugged or should or should not be fixed, they need to communicate with the community.
This community is very vocal, and with good reason, many people spend their hard earned money in the game. Therefore, if their investments are affected, they are understandably upset. kabam is not helping this relationship with the community by not acknowledging these things. If we need to have a discussion about the validity, let's have a discussion... instead of just telling us off unapologetically or worse, not saying anything at all as it has been in this case.
Moreover, how is the community supposed to know what is "intended" and what is not? I have always thought Drax medium bypassing astral evade was intended, and gave him a little more viability as a rank up option (especially in the days when mordo was a hard boss). You can't just change a champ and say it was "obviously" a bug that was not intended because no, it was NOT obviously a bug.
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
It’s been awhile! Missed your input here!
Tell me, when was it a “known bug” regarding drax? Drax bypassing mordo has been in the game since mordo was introduced. Never once did kabam say it was a “bug.” So please, don’t go making stuff up. If this was a bug, it could have been fixed a year ago.
As for magik, again, when was this a “known bug.” It’s amazing how you will completely ignore any explanation to come to the defense of kabam nerfing champs.
I have had a 4* magik for a long long time and she has operated this way for as long as I can remember. Never once did I know it to be a bug All kabam did was make it much harder for her to be the boss killer she was. A lot of people are going to be going into war and get surprised at how this nerf...sorry “fix”...affects her.
Finally, assuming the info being stated about sym spidey and spider Gwen is correct, passive buffs are a fairly recent addition to the game. Those clearly weren’t bugs bc passive buffs really didn’t exist when they were introduced (and when spider Gwen was “buffed.” (I’m unclear how to categorize miles evade charges—That is the only old champ I can think of that may have had a “passive” buff). But even if miles didn’t have passives, they could have made sym spidey and spider Gwen operate he same way. That is a change to those champs. Granted, they aren’t a change that matters too much, but it does make sym spidey a more effective defender against mystic champs if nothing else.
This is another silent nerf they have been doing—all of these new “passive buffs.” You like magik’s l3? Too bad. These buffs are “passive.” You like voodoo’s l1? Too bad, these buffs are “passive.” You like mystic dispersion. Not gonna work. These buffs are “passive.”
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
There was no change to Drax. It was all our old devices that had lower frame rates which allowed Drax to get his second hit in...
So the fact that Mordo is firing off his blast faster then Drax can land his second hit has nothing to do with it.
The point is Drax wasn't intended to bypass it.
No, the point is that there was no transparency. When they fix or update a champ, they should be telling us about it, not do it on the sly. Patch notes mentioned AA 'fix', but all of these other fixes were not mentioned. Community trust is eroding because of this. regardless of whether so and so is or is not bugged or should or should not be fixed, they need to communicate with the community.
This community is very vocal, and with good reason, many people spend their hard earned money in the game. Therefore, if their investments are affected, they are understandably upset. kabam is not helping this relationship with the community by not acknowledging these things. If we need to have a discussion about the validity, let's have a discussion... instead of just telling us off unapologetically or worse, not saying anything at all as it has been in this case.
The community is vocal, period. It leaves very little room for anything. When there's a bug, people complain. When they fix it, they complain. If something isn't mentioned, they complain. If something is worded differently, they complain. Pretty much no getting around it. All you can do is try your best and respond when it falls short. Fixing a bug is doing their job, regardless of the Patch Notes.
AA was a fix, and it was included in the Patch Notes. As for Drax and Magik, we don't know if any fix was pushed, but both cases were known bugs. Drax had speed that bypassed Astral, and Magik was bugged as well.
There was no change to Drax. It was all our old devices that had lower frame rates which allowed Drax to get his second hit in...
So the fact that Mordo is firing off his blast faster then Drax can land his second hit has nothing to do with it.
The point is Drax wasn't intended to bypass it.
No, the point is that there was no transparency. When they fix or update a champ, they should be telling us about it, not do it on the sly. Patch notes mentioned AA 'fix', but all of these other fixes were not mentioned. Community trust is eroding because of this. regardless of whether so and so is or is not bugged or should or should not be fixed, they need to communicate with the community.
This community is very vocal, and with good reason, many people spend their hard earned money in the game. Therefore, if their investments are affected, they are understandably upset. kabam is not helping this relationship with the community by not acknowledging these things. If we need to have a discussion about the validity, let's have a discussion... instead of just telling us off unapologetically or worse, not saying anything at all as it has been in this case.
The community is vocal, period. It leaves very little room for anything. When there's a bug, people complain. When they fix it, they complain. If something isn't mentioned, they complain. If something is worded differently, they complain. Pretty much no getting around it. All you can do is try your best and respond when it falls short. Fixing a bug is doing their job, regardless of the Patch Notes.
Yes, the community is vocal. The fact that it complains does not mean that it is right to ignore them, because they pay money. They should be doing their best and respond, but they are doing worse than before at doing this. Fixing a bug is doing their job and SO IS COMMUNICATING WITH PLAYERS. I believe that is what the moderator role was created for. It's not an easy job, but it is their job. I do feel sorry for the moderators, since they may not even be aware this happens. But now that people are talking about it, they should be checking with the game team on what they have been doing and tell them to stop pulling the rug out from under them (the mods). Something changes, people get annoyed, the mods get the heat.
So we make decisions on who to rank up, they determine there is a bug and fix it, which in turn makes the champion less effective... I play this game assuming champions are working as intended as we play the game, and make decisions as such. There should be a rank down option for impacted players for each of these so we have the choice to go a different direction with our resources.. or, we need a comment on the profile in game for each champion and it’s big that needs to be fixed so we know who’s bugged and who isn’t.
I feel sorry for Kabam. That's all I will say. But just to be "constructive" perhaps it would be beneficial to actually listen to our concerns and incorporate them in a way that saves this game from becoming unplayable. Just my two cents.
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The OG IM before pic is May 25th then after is yesterday after the update. I believe IM got a boost
Constructive criticism: what happened to transparency with the community? We need it since we can tell when things have changed without you guys telling us.
Are you Kabam Mike?
Certainly not. However, this is a Forum, not an Inbox. It's for Players to communicate as well as staff.
According to this:
http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/72994/drax-nerf-no-more-a-mordo-killer-astra-evade-now-gets-him#latest
There was no change to Drax. It was all our old devices that had lower frame rates which allowed Drax to get his second hit in...
So the fact that Mordo is firing off his blast faster then Drax can land his second hit has nothing to do with it.
This is why i don't wanna play anymore lol XD
Dr. Zola
That's just it right? Again broken trust in Kabam... I had thought about investing in Deadpool but now No way no how.
The fact is they made a change in the mechanics of the game (even if it is frame rate) which has had an extremely negative impact on champs and are basically brushing it off.
The point is Drax wasn't intended to bypass it.
sure so they say now, but where was this in the known bugs thread???? at least it's confirmed now that elektra and x23 are bugged as well.
No, the point is that there was no transparency. When they fix or update a champ, they should be telling us about it, not do it on the sly. Patch notes mentioned AA 'fix', but all of these other fixes were not mentioned. Community trust is eroding because of this. regardless of whether so and so is or is not bugged or should or should not be fixed, they need to communicate with the community.
This community is very vocal, and with good reason, many people spend their hard earned money in the game. Therefore, if their investments are affected, they are understandably upset. kabam is not helping this relationship with the community by not acknowledging these things. If we need to have a discussion about the validity, let's have a discussion... instead of just telling us off unapologetically or worse, not saying anything at all as it has been in this case.
Moreover, how is the community supposed to know what is "intended" and what is not? I have always thought Drax medium bypassing astral evade was intended, and gave him a little more viability as a rank up option (especially in the days when mordo was a hard boss). You can't just change a champ and say it was "obviously" a bug that was not intended because no, it was NOT obviously a bug.
It’s been awhile! Missed your input here!
Tell me, when was it a “known bug” regarding drax? Drax bypassing mordo has been in the game since mordo was introduced. Never once did kabam say it was a “bug.” So please, don’t go making stuff up. If this was a bug, it could have been fixed a year ago.
As for magik, again, when was this a “known bug.” It’s amazing how you will completely ignore any explanation to come to the defense of kabam nerfing champs.
I have had a 4* magik for a long long time and she has operated this way for as long as I can remember. Never once did I know it to be a bug All kabam did was make it much harder for her to be the boss killer she was. A lot of people are going to be going into war and get surprised at how this nerf...sorry “fix”...affects her.
Finally, assuming the info being stated about sym spidey and spider Gwen is correct, passive buffs are a fairly recent addition to the game. Those clearly weren’t bugs bc passive buffs really didn’t exist when they were introduced (and when spider Gwen was “buffed.” (I’m unclear how to categorize miles evade charges—That is the only old champ I can think of that may have had a “passive” buff). But even if miles didn’t have passives, they could have made sym spidey and spider Gwen operate he same way. That is a change to those champs. Granted, they aren’t a change that matters too much, but it does make sym spidey a more effective defender against mystic champs if nothing else.
This is another silent nerf they have been doing—all of these new “passive buffs.” You like magik’s l3? Too bad. These buffs are “passive.” You like voodoo’s l1? Too bad, these buffs are “passive.” You like mystic dispersion. Not gonna work. These buffs are “passive.”
The community is vocal, period. It leaves very little room for anything. When there's a bug, people complain. When they fix it, they complain. If something isn't mentioned, they complain. If something is worded differently, they complain. Pretty much no getting around it. All you can do is try your best and respond when it falls short. Fixing a bug is doing their job, regardless of the Patch Notes.
Yes, the community is vocal. The fact that it complains does not mean that it is right to ignore them, because they pay money. They should be doing their best and respond, but they are doing worse than before at doing this. Fixing a bug is doing their job and SO IS COMMUNICATING WITH PLAYERS. I believe that is what the moderator role was created for. It's not an easy job, but it is their job. I do feel sorry for the moderators, since they may not even be aware this happens. But now that people are talking about it, they should be checking with the game team on what they have been doing and tell them to stop pulling the rug out from under them (the mods). Something changes, people get annoyed, the mods get the heat.
Why u say that @Mcord117 IM deserves a boost anyways lol I sure hope it doesn’t get changed. He’s hitting like a tank today