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LoL timer issuer

kryer79kryer79 Member Posts: 190
Hey,
I am close to the end of my second run through the Labyrinth of Legends. I am facing X-23 using mainly Stark 5r5 and SL 5r4 both duped.

Why is it that Star Lord only has a short enrage timer, with an attack of 2170 (see pic) ??? I die before I even get to a useful combo while not getting X-23's health even down to 90%.

Meaningless to say that I feel kind of pissed, considering the effort it has taken me to get to her and being stuck in front of a regeneration defender which cannot be taken down because of a f****** bug !!!

LoL is supposed to be a challenge ok, but when you prepare, save units and stock and loose because of a bug, I feel like just quitting your game which equals a pile of bugs and issues, money grabbers.

Needless to say that there are videos out there with people having lower attack ratings (see pic) which do just fine against her, so what's the issue ??

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  • Primmer79Primmer79 Member Posts: 2,968 ★★★★
    The issue here is his BASE attack, you are viewing it with masteries. The timer is based off of base attack with synergies.
  • CoachLedCoachLed Member Posts: 355 ★★
    Primmer is exactly right. SL base attack isn’t high enough at R4. You need attack synergies to get him to that 2000 mark. Honestly, I’m not sure why you took that path without a real answer to X-23s regen. Better luck next time?
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  • Primmer79Primmer79 Member Posts: 2,968 ★★★★
    edited June 2018
    If you go into the champ info screen, there is a way to see the base attack. I don't have the exact champs to test all this out for the numbers, but i do know 4* cyc has a lower attack % synergy than 5* cyc. not sure if that is where the sole issue is.

    Also, pay attention to their chatter during that video. Need 400+ combo, plus lucky with heal block in that fight to use SL

    Edit: I think his % is 18% attack boost.

    Edit to the Edit: I believe he has 18% and you need 17.3%. If your % adds up to 17%, its not enough.
  • ASV27ASV27 Member Posts: 91
    you need 18% attack synergies for SL. Unfortunately, you're going to have to quit this lane as you can't beat x23.
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  • RotellyRotelly Member Posts: 774 ★★★
    Should have brought AA or guilotine
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  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    Attack modified by masteries or boosts doesn't count towards the enrage timer. Only base attack and modified by synergies.
    You need to be careful of those situations. If you saw someone taking her down, then you'll also want to see the team that was used. Cyclops 90's on your team was the problem here, as you should have used another attack synergy
  • Primmer79Primmer79 Member Posts: 2,968 ★★★★
    kryer79 wrote: »
    so 1705 x 1,17 = 1995
    and 1705 x 1,18 = 2012

    so I guess you’re right... pfff and I had the Antman/YJ team as well, just felt that my Magneto & Cyclops could help a bit more than my Antman or YJ... that sucks but thanks for the details @Primmer79

    No problem, theres a lot of things not stated explicitly in game or by kabam. The player base has a lot of knowledge from experience and word of mouth. It doesn't hurt to start threads like this before the run. "Hey, I'm planning on this route, what do you think of this team?" in addition to youtube research
  • Primmer79Primmer79 Member Posts: 2,968 ★★★★
    Attack modified by masteries or boosts doesn't count towards the enrage timer. Only base attack and modified by synergies.
    You need to be careful of those situations. If you saw someone taking her down, then you'll also want to see the team that was used. Cyclops 90's on your team was the problem here, as you should have used another attack synergy

    4* red cyc was an issue, too. I am not sure about 90s cyc synergy, but I know 4* red cyc has a lower % than 5*.
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  • Primmer79Primmer79 Member Posts: 2,968 ★★★★
    kryer79 wrote: »
    yeah thanks, got it now @will-o-wisp
    just feel like these are things kabam could state clearly...

    If you ask kabam, synergies have no effect on LoL timer...
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  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    Do you have a duped void? A 4-star rank 5 should be enough to take her down pretty easily.
    Im going to do that path on saturday (it will be the last) and I'll use him just for that fight
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  • Primmer79Primmer79 Member Posts: 2,968 ★★★★
    kryer79 wrote: »
    I like that app but it’s not accurate then

    it looks like it assumed 5* champs.
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  • Primmer79Primmer79 Member Posts: 2,968 ★★★★
    kryer79 wrote: »
    don’t think so Wolverine is in there and does not exist 5*

    You didn't select Wolverine. If you selected wolverine, it would include his synergy from his highest star available.
  • LoPrestiLoPresti Member Posts: 1,035 ★★★
    With a little research this stuff can be easily found, but it's still weird. There should be some indication in-game that tells you what you need for an extended timer and if you meet the criteria without having to whip out a calculator.
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  • LoPrestiLoPresti Member Posts: 1,035 ★★★
    kryer79 wrote: »
    well the issue is you also find a lot of wrong stuff easily @LoPresti , I am not looking for excuses, it’s my fault... and I did quit that run. But as you say, this timer is just a rip-off if the conditions are not clearly stated. period

    Yeah fair enough, lots of info out there. You can always calculate yourself, but you need to know that it's base attack (you need to click on more info on your stats to see it) and then calculate what % you need. Just a lot of work that can be explained better in game imo.

    p.s. This guy has calculated it for a lot of the main champions used in LOL, I always refer to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ContestOfChampions/comments/7wro6s/list_of_attack_bonus_needed_for_the_extended_lol/
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