The rate and ease of getting a five star crystal is directly tied to the ability to dupe a champion AND the amount of champions in the basic crystal. This is what I’m not seeing you understand and acknowledge in any of the responses. You keep repeating this line that it’s still somewhat rare to get these crystals and it’s actually relatively easy to even earn a full five star every week, if you are willing to take the time in the game to do it. Instead you sound like you want kabam to make it easier to pull specific champions more than the featured crystal already does. This would be something that’s not consistent with your previous comments, hence why everyone is calling you out on it. The game will continue to make it easier to acquire five star crystals, and the rate you can get four star crystals has grown exponentially in the last year alone. If you’re getting lots of those you’ll have more shards to open more five stars and you’ll have more chances to dupe your five star. I went without pulling a dupe for over 20 five star crystals and now I have 12, some of which i have duped multiple times even in the last week. Mostly it’s because I open more five star crystals than I used to as I started running every arena for as many milestones as I possibly can reach within my schedule limits.
Go grind for it like everyone else, instead of wanting kabam to release another higher priced crystal by class, something they will never do anyway and which would be probably astronomical in cost to a regular five star. Since you seem to have given us an answer to how many you’re earning total a month (not that many) I would imagine you wouldn’t be able to even afford this hypothetical class crystal anyway, and it still would have RNG.
A few Gems from the Top Tier Content doesn't solve the issue overall. Spending isn't what I'm talking about. It's the Basic Pool. Arena is possible, but that's a great deal of Grinding for Awakening, and doesn't really solve the issue of acquiring through the Crystals. Your math may be correct, but it's not in perspective. If you're pulling a new Champ every month and 2 more are added, that leaves you steadily challenged in that. They're still adding faster than you're pulling in your example. The statistics may seem sound on paper, but that's not really the case. There's no catching up in that scenario, assuming that by some freak chance you never pull a Dup. Either way, that's months and months of work, and I think it's a problem. You're free to disagree and think everything is as it should be.
The statistics are the statistics. When 2 new champs are added a month and you can only pull 1 new, your chances to pull a dupe are still increasing. In your “catching-up” scenario, are you referring to being able to pull every single 5* champ in the game as they come out? Cause that’s not likely unless you’re a mega-spender or very lucky.
I think there’s nothing wrong with the duping system or the basic pool additions every 2 weeks. The root of the problem is that you want more dupes. More availability of 5* shards, more 5* awakening gems, more targeting methods of specific champs is the solution to that. Some people could make a case where they need more resources and that’s fair, but in your scenario you’re saying you have 19 5* champs and you want just ANY dupe. There’s plenty of those resources available if you know where to look. Sometimes it comes through offers sure, Kabam is a business and wants to capitalize on needs. But many of those end-game resources are available for “free” throughout act V and labyrinth of legends. If you’re not there yet then keep building your roster until you are. It sounds like you want more resources without putting in the time to achieve them, something else familiar I’ve heard before.
The root of the problem is not that I want MORE Dups. I don't have any in my case. The root of the problem is the difficulty in acquiring them. I'm not the only one who views that to be a problem, and I'm not only thinking of my own case. You disagree that there's a problem, thanks for the feedback. I think it is. No doubt it's not an issue for people working on their 6* Rosters with many Dups. For others, it's an issue.
The root of the problem is not that I want MORE Dups. I don't have any in my case. The root of the problem is the difficulty in acquiring them. I'm not the only one who views that to be a problem, and I'm not only thinking of my own case. You disagree that there's a problem, thanks for the feedback. I think it is. No doubt it's not an issue for people working on their 6* Rosters with many Dups. For others, it's an issue.
The way you word it makes it a RNG problem. You are upset you haven’t pulled any dupes because RNG has not been in your favor. Hey I wish RNG could’ve got me a 5* Corvus and 5* Domino but RNG didn’t give that to me. Doesn’t mean it’s always a problem with the system, just can be an unlucky streak. Also, don’t you think additional 5* shards or awakening gems are the solution to your problem?
No. That doesn't solve the issue I presented. I suggested making it easier to target Dups while still leaving an element of RNG. I get it, you don't think anything is wrong, and you don't think anything needs to be changed. We can agree to disagree and move on.
No. That doesn't solve the issue I presented. I suggested making it easier to target Dups while still leaving an element of RNG. I get it, you don't think anything is wrong, and you don't think anything needs to be changed. We can agree to disagree and move on.
Introducing the awakening gem crystal, gives you only 1 in 6 chance of getting the class you want but allows you to directly target any champ of class. Available in Act V, Labyrinth of legends, and occasional offers.
No. That doesn't solve the issue I presented. I suggested making it easier to target Dups while still leaving an element of RNG. I get it, you don't think anything is wrong, and you don't think anything needs to be changed. We can agree to disagree and move on.
I am at 23 5* and only have 2 dups. One is Unstoppable Col, which shouldnt even count because I purchased him with loyalty. My 1 true dup is.......hulkbuster!!!! Thanks but no thanks!!
So that was your intention after all. I mean, I caught on when you kept repeating ways to Awaken a Champ that literally have nothing to do with the ability to get Dups from the Basic. The fact that you didn't even acknowledge the issue was the hint. Considering I was pretty respectful in saying I can respect that you don't agree, it was pretty apparent. Thanks for clarifying. Now we don't have to engage.
I am at 23 5* and only have 2 dups. One is Unstoppable Col, which shouldnt even count because I purchased him with loyalty. My 1 true dup is.......hulkbuster!!!! Thanks but no thanks!!
I get it. I mean I don't care who I Dup, but I get it. Lol.
So that was your intention after all. I mean, I caught on when you kept repeating ways to Awaken a Champ that literally have nothing to do with the ability to get Dups from the Basic. The fact that you didn't even acknowledge the issue was the hint. Considering I was pretty respectful in saying I can respect that you don't agree, it was pretty apparent. Thanks for clarifying. Now we don't have to engage.
Nope wrong again, all my points about awakening gems are as valid as can be. There is no fundamental difference between duping a champ for the first time and using an awakening gem + 19 stones. If your biggest concern is getting a dupe, awakening gems are the way to go. That’s the whole purpose of them lol.
I'm at 19 now, no Dups. Doesn't matter who I Dup actually. I'm not really concerned with going for the Top Tier. Don't get me wrong, the more useful the better. Lol. Just the ability to Dup in general that concerns me.
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@GroundedWisdom To be fair, 19 lifetime 5* crystals is hardly enough of a sample size to cry the system needs to be fixed, not RNG. I’m not trying to knock your progression or level in the game, but I think 19 total 5*s is still on the verge of a “progressing-player” and you still have a lot more 5* crystals to open and content to beat just playing through the game. Your RNG luck might fall below average at this point (though you have some good 5* already), but you need more 5* crystals for RNG and the system to even itself out. All it takes is one great 5* pull (like Blade) to blast your account into Uncollected and Act V where you’ll be swimming in 5* shards, awakening gems, T2A, 6* shards, etc. Progression will compound on itself getting more and more end-game resources allowing you to rank up champs higher and do more end-game content leading to even more end-game resources. That process happens relatively fast once you get into it and is a ton of fun. I don’t think you’re quite there yet, just trust in the system Kabam has built which is quite good for progressing players.
I actually just think this is plain rude. Hulksmash is actually giving you solid advice and presenting it in a well written and helpful way. You are just being rude, and I think he deserves an apology and for you to adress his points.
Find something else to do besides trolling my post.
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I am not trolling your post, I have always, up until my last post, added something that has added to the discussion. You, however, are just being insulting to many other users. I’ve left a reminder of the forum rules above.
You honestly think people can't read the Thread and see what's going on? You mentioned baiting, yet that's exactly what you're doing. As you've done before many times. You went into some kind of soliloquy about me as a person and my behaviour, pointing out how I always make things personal and making it personal all along, and hid a blurb about the topic in the middle of it. This is not the first time you've tried to get a reaction out of me.
As for the other one, that was admittedly trying to provoke a reaction. No one even addressed what I'm talking about, just kept repeating my comments on other Threads and telling me ways you can Awaken a Champ with harder content. Not at all what I was talking about. Even after I respectfully said I disagree and we can leave it at that, it was pressed with the same response, just to get a reaction. That is the very definition of trolling.
Let's not forget hopping over to another Thread to copy and paste my responses and make a farce out of it, then back to provoke some more here.
Now you want to take issue with me not acknowledging the discussion when it's still not even what I'm talking about?
I've had enough. Done. If people want to talk about what I brought up, I'm all ears. Some have already shown what their intentions are and I'm over the bull****. Save the act.
@GroundedWisdom would you like my Jane Foster? 140 Signature on a useless champ.
Wouldn't mind at this point. Lol. As I said, it's not just about me getting a Dup. The greater point I'm making is the difficulty people have in Awakening them, and how it will get worse.
You honestly think people can't read the Thread and see what's going on? You mentioned baiting, yet that's exactly what you're doing. As you've done before many times. You went into some kind of soliloquy about me as a person and my behaviour, pointing out how I always make things personal and making it personal all along, and hid a blurb about the topic in the middle of it. This is not the first time you've tried to get a reaction out of me.
As for the other one, that was admittedly trying to provoke a reaction. No one even addressed what I'm talking about, just kept repeating my comments on other Threads and telling me ways you can Awaken a Champ with harder content. Not at all what I was talking about. Even after I respectfully said I disagree and we can leave it at that, it was pressed with the same response, just to get a reaction. That is the very definition of trolling.
Let's not forget hopping over to another Thread to copy and paste my responses and make a farce out of it, then back to provoke some more here.
Now you want to take issue with me not acknowledging the discussion when it's still not even what I'm talking about?
I've had enough. Done. If people want to talk about what I brought up, I'm all ears. Some have already shown what their intentions are and I'm over the bull****. Save the act.
You really just can’t stand people disagreeing with your opinion can you. It’s either agree, or you’re trolling me.
Maybe have a think about why all your threads, and most of the threads you comment on, descend into this and get shut down. At some point you’ll have to stop blaming every single person who thinks you are in the wrong, and realise that you are the common factor.
I’m done with this conversation, and I hope you really think about why this happens, don’t tell me why you think it happens. Just think.
To be fair, I liked the old days with 5 star featured crystals, that definitely helped with duping characters if you had the patience to hold your shards. However on the point of class crystals, I think that would be an interesting idea, perhaps a black Friday deal where its limited to one purchase of your choice of class?
You made this post but when people give you the answer in detail, you get rude & ask them to stop posting. It’s gaslighting in its finest form.
You haven’t answered one of my posts at all, & then once again brought up arenas as if they only function to grind for a champion as the reward to dupe. That is not how people are using them, or at least the majority of the players grinding them. Watch prof hoff or any of the other YouTubers on how many five star champions they open just through getting SHARDS from arena rank rewards, not through just trying to get the featured or basic champ. Some of them open 1 or 2 five star crystals a week, & they do it by duping four star champs (which are way more plentiful than they used to be), maxing them out to get more shards through max sig crystals, & through event/story content on top of it. You even hinted on page 5 of this post that you’re opening only one five star a month.
You aren’t willing to put the work into obtaining more shards in order to increase your chances of duping a champion. Then when others tell you why you haven’t made a dupe yet, as you aren’t far enough in the game, you get defensive & mad. You are doing the exact thing you call others out on every day in this forum.
You’ve read the answer to your problem and you refuse to acknowledge it, or maybe you just don’t understand. I’m leaning towards that explanation.
Even if they introduce 2 new champs a month, if the normal rate of obtaining five stars right now (for someone actually playing the current game as intended for free) is 3-4 a month...just like four star crystals started to increase in availability per week, so will five stars in the same manner. There is no need to narrow the field as it will happen as intended by kabam & naturally with the progression of the player base. If you’re wanting targeted champs instead, they have the feature crystals.
You have a long detailed history on this sub of defending kabam and how they design the game, but now because you aren’t able to dupe someone due to your lack of willingness to try, you want them to change the format or crystals to make it easier? The irony is thick. Take your own advice. Do the work and you’ll dupe them just fine, and if not use the awakening and sig stone resources that kabam makes available. It’s as simple as that.
To be fair, I liked the old days with 5 star featured crystals, that definitely helped with duping characters if you had the patience to hold your shards. However on the point of class crystals, I think that would be an interesting idea, perhaps a black Friday deal where its limited to one purchase of your choice of class?
It's an idea. I'm leaning towards the Crystals like the Dungeon Crystals as well. Perhaps Class or some other common quality.
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Go grind for it like everyone else, instead of wanting kabam to release another higher priced crystal by class, something they will never do anyway and which would be probably astronomical in cost to a regular five star. Since you seem to have given us an answer to how many you’re earning total a month (not that many) I would imagine you wouldn’t be able to even afford this hypothetical class crystal anyway, and it still would have RNG.
The feels.
The statistics are the statistics. When 2 new champs are added a month and you can only pull 1 new, your chances to pull a dupe are still increasing. In your “catching-up” scenario, are you referring to being able to pull every single 5* champ in the game as they come out? Cause that’s not likely unless you’re a mega-spender or very lucky.
I think there’s nothing wrong with the duping system or the basic pool additions every 2 weeks. The root of the problem is that you want more dupes. More availability of 5* shards, more 5* awakening gems, more targeting methods of specific champs is the solution to that. Some people could make a case where they need more resources and that’s fair, but in your scenario you’re saying you have 19 5* champs and you want just ANY dupe. There’s plenty of those resources available if you know where to look. Sometimes it comes through offers sure, Kabam is a business and wants to capitalize on needs. But many of those end-game resources are available for “free” throughout act V and labyrinth of legends. If you’re not there yet then keep building your roster until you are. It sounds like you want more resources without putting in the time to achieve them, something else familiar I’ve heard before.
The way you word it makes it a RNG problem. You are upset you haven’t pulled any dupes because RNG has not been in your favor. Hey I wish RNG could’ve got me a 5* Corvus and 5* Domino but RNG didn’t give that to me. Doesn’t mean it’s always a problem with the system, just can be an unlucky streak. Also, don’t you think additional 5* shards or awakening gems are the solution to your problem?
Introducing the awakening gem crystal, gives you only 1 in 6 chance of getting the class you want but allows you to directly target any champ of class. Available in Act V, Labyrinth of legends, and occasional offers.
You're describing the featured 5* crystal.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/82443/6-dups/p1?new=1
I get it. I mean I don't care who I Dup, but I get it. Lol.
Nope wrong again, all my points about awakening gems are as valid as can be. There is no fundamental difference between duping a champ for the first time and using an awakening gem + 19 stones. If your biggest concern is getting a dupe, awakening gems are the way to go. That’s the whole purpose of them lol.
Yeah I get you.
@GroundedWisdom To be fair, 19 lifetime 5* crystals is hardly enough of a sample size to cry the system needs to be fixed, not RNG. I’m not trying to knock your progression or level in the game, but I think 19 total 5*s is still on the verge of a “progressing-player” and you still have a lot more 5* crystals to open and content to beat just playing through the game. Your RNG luck might fall below average at this point (though you have some good 5* already), but you need more 5* crystals for RNG and the system to even itself out. All it takes is one great 5* pull (like Blade) to blast your account into Uncollected and Act V where you’ll be swimming in 5* shards, awakening gems, T2A, 6* shards, etc. Progression will compound on itself getting more and more end-game resources allowing you to rank up champs higher and do more end-game content leading to even more end-game resources. That process happens relatively fast once you get into it and is a ton of fun. I don’t think you’re quite there yet, just trust in the system Kabam has built which is quite good for progressing players.
I actually just think this is plain rude. Hulksmash is actually giving you solid advice and presenting it in a well written and helpful way. You are just being rude, and I think he deserves an apology and for you to adress his points.
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I am not trolling your post, I have always, up until my last post, added something that has added to the discussion. You, however, are just being insulting to many other users. I’ve left a reminder of the forum rules above.
As for the other one, that was admittedly trying to provoke a reaction. No one even addressed what I'm talking about, just kept repeating my comments on other Threads and telling me ways you can Awaken a Champ with harder content. Not at all what I was talking about. Even after I respectfully said I disagree and we can leave it at that, it was pressed with the same response, just to get a reaction. That is the very definition of trolling.
Let's not forget hopping over to another Thread to copy and paste my responses and make a farce out of it, then back to provoke some more here.
Now you want to take issue with me not acknowledging the discussion when it's still not even what I'm talking about?
I've had enough. Done. If people want to talk about what I brought up, I'm all ears. Some have already shown what their intentions are and I'm over the bull****. Save the act.
Wouldn't mind at this point. Lol. As I said, it's not just about me getting a Dup. The greater point I'm making is the difficulty people have in Awakening them, and how it will get worse.
You really just can’t stand people disagreeing with your opinion can you. It’s either agree, or you’re trolling me.
Maybe have a think about why all your threads, and most of the threads you comment on, descend into this and get shut down. At some point you’ll have to stop blaming every single person who thinks you are in the wrong, and realise that you are the common factor.
I’m done with this conversation, and I hope you really think about why this happens, don’t tell me why you think it happens. Just think.
You haven’t answered one of my posts at all, & then once again brought up arenas as if they only function to grind for a champion as the reward to dupe. That is not how people are using them, or at least the majority of the players grinding them. Watch prof hoff or any of the other YouTubers on how many five star champions they open just through getting SHARDS from arena rank rewards, not through just trying to get the featured or basic champ. Some of them open 1 or 2 five star crystals a week, & they do it by duping four star champs (which are way more plentiful than they used to be), maxing them out to get more shards through max sig crystals, & through event/story content on top of it. You even hinted on page 5 of this post that you’re opening only one five star a month.
You aren’t willing to put the work into obtaining more shards in order to increase your chances of duping a champion. Then when others tell you why you haven’t made a dupe yet, as you aren’t far enough in the game, you get defensive & mad. You are doing the exact thing you call others out on every day in this forum.
You’ve read the answer to your problem and you refuse to acknowledge it, or maybe you just don’t understand. I’m leaning towards that explanation.
Even if they introduce 2 new champs a month, if the normal rate of obtaining five stars right now (for someone actually playing the current game as intended for free) is 3-4 a month...just like four star crystals started to increase in availability per week, so will five stars in the same manner. There is no need to narrow the field as it will happen as intended by kabam & naturally with the progression of the player base. If you’re wanting targeted champs instead, they have the feature crystals.
You have a long detailed history on this sub of defending kabam and how they design the game, but now because you aren’t able to dupe someone due to your lack of willingness to try, you want them to change the format or crystals to make it easier? The irony is thick. Take your own advice. Do the work and you’ll dupe them just fine, and if not use the awakening and sig stone resources that kabam makes available. It’s as simple as that.
It's an idea. I'm leaning towards the Crystals like the Dungeon Crystals as well. Perhaps Class or some other common quality.