MD Confirmed Useless For Mystic Defence
Stantona
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Hi All,
I just wanted to add some clarity and show exactly what the MD changes have meant to my Mystic defenders even at a lower level Tier in war. Due to the current state of the game I decided to take a drop from a Tier 1 war alliance down to a Tier 6/7 alliance. Now up until the recent MD changes I was averaging 5 kills a war with my 5/65 5* Dorm, sometimes in excess of 12 kills but since the change its now 1 or 2 here and there but as we moved into tier 6 he seems surplus to requirements.
I'm not a beggar but I do believe my case for a RDT is justified. I have put the most valuable resources currently within the game (T5B) into which was at the time known as the best defensive option (Dorm). I would understand the game needs to progress so champions with counters would be acceptable in defeat, but I do feel changes to MD which Dorm heavily relies on wasn't covered on the upgrade description when I took him to rank 5, obviously if there was prior warning to this then again this is acceptable.
I think many would agree any Mystic's taken to rank 5 using the most precious resources within the game should be granted a RDT, I'd even say any Mystic at rank 4 doesn't warrant the RDT due to the fact T5B wasn't required.
Kabam keep saying they are 'watching this' and 'watching that' and never said 'RDT wouldn't be included', but at least cast some transparency on this matter and clarify what is actually going to happen regarding not only my case but many others that have been ignored. Just release announcement with your intentions. Photos taken from a Tier 6 war.
Stantona
I just wanted to add some clarity and show exactly what the MD changes have meant to my Mystic defenders even at a lower level Tier in war. Due to the current state of the game I decided to take a drop from a Tier 1 war alliance down to a Tier 6/7 alliance. Now up until the recent MD changes I was averaging 5 kills a war with my 5/65 5* Dorm, sometimes in excess of 12 kills but since the change its now 1 or 2 here and there but as we moved into tier 6 he seems surplus to requirements.
I'm not a beggar but I do believe my case for a RDT is justified. I have put the most valuable resources currently within the game (T5B) into which was at the time known as the best defensive option (Dorm). I would understand the game needs to progress so champions with counters would be acceptable in defeat, but I do feel changes to MD which Dorm heavily relies on wasn't covered on the upgrade description when I took him to rank 5, obviously if there was prior warning to this then again this is acceptable.
I think many would agree any Mystic's taken to rank 5 using the most precious resources within the game should be granted a RDT, I'd even say any Mystic at rank 4 doesn't warrant the RDT due to the fact T5B wasn't required.
Kabam keep saying they are 'watching this' and 'watching that' and never said 'RDT wouldn't be included', but at least cast some transparency on this matter and clarify what is actually going to happen regarding not only my case but many others that have been ignored. Just release announcement with your intentions. Photos taken from a Tier 6 war.
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Now, some people may see this as part of the game, but I don't. It's just like saying, you bought into a feature of a car and it's suppose to work that way, then Ford decides to take it back
@My_Superior MODOK wasn’t nerfed, he was bugged. His auto-block was not designed to trigger parry.
Except it wasn’t supposed to work that way. The in game description always said MD triggers when a buff expires. If somebody evades a mystic champ 5 or 6 times in a row without striking, that buff is not expiring and never should have fed MD. The analogy is more like Ford sold you a Focus and 2 years later realized you’ve been driving around in a Shelby Mustang.
Except players asked Kabam 100s of times if MD was working as intended and Kabam said yes every time. To add to your metaphor, Ford sold you a Focus and 2 years later told you they were taking the car back because they actually sold you a Shelby Mustang even though you repeatedly asked them if you were in fact driving a Focus.
This is not a case of semantics. MODOK’s champion description says “forcefield cannot trigger parry”:
Yes and no... I think in this specific scenario Modok was bugged, but it was not without knowledge by the community. We all knew he wasn't supposed to parry. People didn't grind for him because he could parry, they did it because he was potentially a great defender in AW with the auto block. Parry was an unintended side effect of his auto block, but we all knew it was unintended. It would be different if some champions had a feature that we thought was working as intended and then this feature was removed and said to be a bug. Similar to what happened with AA and his stuns.
I played MvC3 and other games like SF5 and KOF13 online. I don’t remember an instance where bugs and nerfs were the same things in those games.
It astounds me to see the number of people that say MD wasn't essential to defense... I know I ranked up many 4* champs for defense back in the day specifically because I used MD. I'm not saying this compares to the ones who ranked 5*, but I do understand the frustration that you guys have. I definitely think those that took 5* Mystic champs to r4 or r5 should have the option of taking those champs back down.
That’s how it showed up. Wouldn’t be the first Kabam glitch.
nailed it
Thank you for sharing your opinion. I wouldn't say this "confirms" anything though, and we are still looking through our data to see how the effectiveness of some Defenders has changed. This doesn't mean that individual experiences won't be considered, but it does mean that it will not be the only thing considered.
We will update you all when we have made a decision.