New, improved and updated ST/KM synergy list - now gluten free!

HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
Lots of new updates. Feel free to let me know if you have anything to add.
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Masochism - completely shuts it down

Astral Evade - shuts it down as long as you hit .7s after stun

Ice armor from reforming - shuts it down after it is broken

Cable's degen on bleed - completely shuts it down [seems to be bugged; occasionally applies degen]

Reflect stun - shuts it down

Auto block - has to be timed properly in order to shut it down; does not keep auto block from happening on consecutive hits

LC's indestructible - shuts it down during the .7s of a stun which means you'll score damage during indestructible

Crossbones' fury conversion - completely shuts it down

King Groot's shrug off - changes shrug off to .7s; becomes irrelevant with maxed parry and stupify; if parried on last fury, prevents regen

Groot's shrug off - changes shrug off to .7s; becomes irrelevant if you have maxed parry and stupify

Hood's invisibility - works like LC's indestructible

Glancing - any hit after a stun will not be glancing as well as a bleed; this becomes more powerful when combined with Omega Red's synergy

Any buff on hit (fury, armor up, regen, etc.) - this is true for any hit after stun or bleed

Doctor Strange's defense buff - for the .7s of the debuff, it ignores the armor up

AV's tenacity - completely shuts it down

KP's rage - completely shuts it down

Electro's thorns - the thorns will not activate during the .7s of a debuff; Omega Red's synergy amplifies this

Hela's indestructible - simply stun and hit or bleed her to immediately kill during indestructible

Limbo on meter gain - this is hard to time, but if the .7s is active during meter gain, it will not activate limbo

Starky's evade special - stun, medium then special to shut it down

Subtlety - completely shuts it down

Rhino Armor - it behaves the same as against DS' armor up

MODOK's shield - it does not remove shield but prevents it during the .7s of a stun; he cannot shield during specials since they bleed; Omega Red's synergy almost prevent shield completely

Morningstar's bleed on hit - it will not activate during the .7s of a stun

Biohazard node - stop bleed on hit if there's a debuff; use with OR synergy to maximize

Mephisto's regen - if debuff is applied when his health drops below 30%

Mephisto's aura - prevents it from activating during a debuff on hit

Korg's shrug off - completely shuts it down

Korg's thorns - bypasses them during stun

Safeguard node - bypasses during debuffs

Spiked armor node - bypasses during debuffs
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Does not affect (tested):

Emma's diamond form
Korg's damage reduction
Thor Rag's power gain
Jugg's stagger on parry
Buffet node

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Untested:

Goldpool's regen
Magneto's (both) damage reduction
Gwenpool's damage reduction
Ghost's phase

Comments

  • GnotnusGnotnus Member Posts: 89
    Are these applicable to both KM and ST?
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    No, just ST.
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    I'm having some trouble with getting a definitive answer on KM. I'm not entirely sure if it prevents reverb damage and power gain.
  • ShadPrinceShadPrince Member Posts: 842 ★★★
    Oh my gosh I'm gluten intolerant this is perfect thanks!!!
  • NEO_mr_AndersonNEO_mr_Anderson Member Posts: 1,075 ★★★
    ST with both BP if you don't have KM, like me.
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    ST with both BP if you don't have KM, like me.

    Yes, true. Most people prefer the latter for AW.
  • SMNYSMNY Member Posts: 69
    What is ST? Star Trek?
  • SMNYSMNY Member Posts: 69
    Or should I have said WIST?ST? ?
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Evade mechanic - it only stops evade with the KM and OR syngery. They cannot evade on the hit after a bleed is triggered.
  • Severus35Severus35 Member Posts: 89
    To be confirmed : ST can prevent the primal power (Furies + Unstoppable) of the Champion from triggering. You have to time your hits just right to that 13seconds delay.
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Severus35 wrote: »
    To be confirmed : ST can prevent the primal power (Furies + Unstoppable) of the Champion from triggering. You have to time your hits just right to that 13seconds delay.

    Thank you for that confirmation. I'll add it.
  • GnotnusGnotnus Member Posts: 89
    What is OR??? lol
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Omega Red. He causes ST's claw attacks to cause bleed.
  • NEO_mr_AndersonNEO_mr_Anderson Member Posts: 1,075 ★★★
    Or should I have said WIST?ST? ?

    SaberTooth
  • Severus35Severus35 Member Posts: 89
    So apparently ST does not prevent Primal power from triggering BUT he prevents the activation of Unstoppable and Furies.
    It does not shut down Primal power from triggering the next time.

    In this video i let the Champion triggering his Primal power normally then i'm applying a bleed debuff on him to showcase this.

    https://youtu.be/j01cPRyhTQY

    I'll try to keep him bleeding with the OR synergy next time.
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Severus35 wrote: »
    So apparently ST does not prevent Primal power from triggering BUT he prevents the activation of Unstoppable and Furies.
    It does not shut down Primal power from triggering the next time.

    In this video i let the Champion triggering his Primal power normally then i'm applying a bleed debuff on him to showcase this.

    https://youtu.be/j01cPRyhTQY

    I'll try to keep him bleeding with the OR synergy next time.

    Thank you again. This is good to me. Saves me a lot of time.

    So many thanks @Severus35
  • Severus35Severus35 Member Posts: 89
    edited November 2018
    Glad that helps ;)

    After another test, i can confirm ST has to apply a debuff just before Primal power kicks in (the usual 0.7 seconds) Keeping on making the Champion bleed the entire fight (using the OR synergy) is not enough.

    I can post another video if needed. :)
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    Severus35 wrote: »
    Glad that helps ;)

    After another test, i can confirm ST has to apply a debuff just before Primal power kicks in (the usual 0.7 seconds) Keeping on making the Champion bleed the entire fight (using the OR synergy) is not enough.

    I can post another video if needed. :)

    Nah, man. Got all the confirmation I need.

    Once again, much obliged.
  • V1PER1987V1PER1987 Member Posts: 3,474 ★★★★★
    I may have missed this on the list but Sabretooth with KM synergy counters bubble shield.
  • HaminHamin Member Posts: 2,444 ★★★★★
    V1PER1987 wrote: »
    I may have missed this on the list but Sabretooth with KM synergy counters bubble shield.

    Noted. I'll add it to the list. Thanks.
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