Kabam, why do not you put important information in Daredevil's descriptions?

AndTavAndTav Member Posts: 261
edited January 2019 in General Discussion
Recently I was thinking, Daredevil has a very interesting ability against certain champions, but Kabam does not put it in the descriptions. The DD does not suffer from the effects of invisibility, intangibility, etc. Would not it be easier to include in his abilities? This really is very useful, it helped a lot against the darkhawk. I say this because many players had to figure this out by themselves.
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  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,507 ★★★★
    So basically many players didn't realize he was blind. Pretty sure its covered in the comics and all the movies and TV adaptations of the character
  • PaytoPlayPaytoPlay Member Posts: 762 ★★★
    edited January 2019
    Hamin wrote: »
    It's an Easter Egg stat. It's supposed to be that way.

    These Easter egg stats can potentially trigger a 'not working as intended' bug fix in the future... knowing kabam while I appreciate the thoughts and creativity behind this its best to state the ability clearly on their ability profile, even if it's an update due to a new champ.
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  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    ezgoing wrote: »
    Shouldn’t you then update the descriptions of champs with invisibility to say it doesn’t work against blind champs. Then tag DD as #blind?

    Just in case one day Kabam releases an invisibility ability that ignores blindness and there’s no confusion.
    Hey Andtav,

    Thanks for the suggestion. The reason that Daredevil doesn't have this in his description is because it is not an ability on his end, but an exception on the opponent's Attack/Ability. In the future, there may be opponents that have an ability like this that Daredevil may not ignore, so we wouldn't have to put it on his information page.

    Hope that clears things up!

    Agreed, this is the best compromise.
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  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,405 ★★★★★
    Dshu wrote: »
    Yeah let's focus on this rather than the countless bugs in the game or fixing pure skill mastery. Maybe put the ability description in braille on dd and Netflix dd profile that they cant see the difference between visible and invisible opponents.

    Everyone has moved on with their lives assuming that bugs, lag, and masteries won't ever be addressed. We're sticking with what might actually get fixed, like very small ability text edits for clarity and the occasional clear typo. The other stuff isn't happening.
  • AndTavAndTav Member Posts: 261
    edited January 2019
    @Kabam Miike Well, it would be very controversial, a hero who does not use the vision suffer with the skills that need such in the future. Thank you anyway! I really enjoy participating in the forum interactions.
    Hey Andtav,

    Thanks for the suggestion. The reason that Daredevil doesn't have this in his description is because it is not an ability on his end, but an exception on the opponent's Attack/Ability. In the future, there may be opponents that have an ability like this that Daredevil may not ignore, so we wouldn't have to put it on his information page.

    Hope that clears things up!

  • gohard123gohard123 Member Posts: 1,015 ★★★
    Hey Andtav,

    Thanks for the suggestion. The reason that Daredevil doesn't have this in his description is because it is not an ability on his end, but an exception on the opponent's Attack/Ability. In the future, there may be opponents that have an ability like this that Daredevil may not ignore, so we wouldn't have to put it on his information page.

    Hope that clears things up!

    Dorm's lack of blood is not an ability on his end but an exception on the opponent's attack/ability
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,032 ★★★★★
    gohard123 wrote: »
    Hey Andtav,

    Thanks for the suggestion. The reason that Daredevil doesn't have this in his description is because it is not an ability on his end, but an exception on the opponent's Attack/Ability. In the future, there may be opponents that have an ability like this that Daredevil may not ignore, so we wouldn't have to put it on his information page.

    Hope that clears things up!

    Dorm's lack of blood is not an ability on his end but an exception on the opponent's attack/ability

    It is an ability on his end. Is on his abilities list as well
  • PaytoPlayPaytoPlay Member Posts: 762 ★★★
    Can someone explain the "Easter Egg" to me? I dont see it.

    He is blind so he ignore some invisibility ability and will not miss when fighting champs like dark hawk.
  • gohard123gohard123 Member Posts: 1,015 ★★★
    gohard123 wrote: »
    Hey Andtav,

    Thanks for the suggestion. The reason that Daredevil doesn't have this in his description is because it is not an ability on his end, but an exception on the opponent's Attack/Ability. In the future, there may be opponents that have an ability like this that Daredevil may not ignore, so we wouldn't have to put it on his information page.

    Hope that clears things up!

    Dorm's lack of blood is not an ability on his end but an exception on the opponent's attack/ability

    It is an ability on his end. Is on his abilities list as well

    not having blood is not an ability just like not having sight. It is on his abilities list because bleed has been in the game forever
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,032 ★★★★★
    edited January 2019
    gohard123 wrote: »
    gohard123 wrote: »
    Hey Andtav,

    Thanks for the suggestion. The reason that Daredevil doesn't have this in his description is because it is not an ability on his end, but an exception on the opponent's Attack/Ability. In the future, there may be opponents that have an ability like this that Daredevil may not ignore, so we wouldn't have to put it on his information page.

    Hope that clears things up!

    Dorm's lack of blood is not an ability on his end but an exception on the opponent's attack/ability

    It is an ability on his end. Is on his abilities list as well

    not having blood is not an ability just like not having sight. It is on his abilities list because bleed has been in the game forever

    He just doesn't have blood, therefore he was made to be bleed immune and have the ability described so that people could know he isn't affected by bleed abilities.
    In the case of Daredevil is different. Nowhere on his abilities specify that he has an ability to "ignore" invisibility effects. Unless someone knows the character already, no one would knew that he is blind (unless if they read his bio, which isn't relevant to the game mechanics).
    This interaction is not described anywhere in the game. Is not an ability on his end (since there is no ability), is just something the team decided to do without actually giving him the ability.
  • gohard123gohard123 Member Posts: 1,015 ★★★
    edited January 2019
    gohard123 wrote: »
    gohard123 wrote: »
    Hey Andtav,

    Thanks for the suggestion. The reason that Daredevil doesn't have this in his description is because it is not an ability on his end, but an exception on the opponent's Attack/Ability. In the future, there may be opponents that have an ability like this that Daredevil may not ignore, so we wouldn't have to put it on his information page.

    Hope that clears things up!

    Dorm's lack of blood is not an ability on his end but an exception on the opponent's attack/ability

    It is an ability on his end. Is on his abilities list as well

    not having blood is not an ability just like not having sight. It is on his abilities list because bleed has been in the game forever

    He just doesn't have blood, therefore he was made to be bleed immune and have the ability described so that people could know he isn't affected by bleed abilities.
    In the case of Daredevil is different. Nowhere on his abilities specify that he has an ability to "ignore" invisibility effects. Unless someone knows the character already, no one would knew that he is blind (unless if they read his bio, which isn't relevant to the game mechanics).
    This interaction is not described anywhere in the game. Is not an ability on his end (since there is no ability), is just something the team decided to do without actually giving him the ability.

    The argument is for him to have 'ignore invisibility' to his abilities so mentioning him not having it in his abilities page is moot.

    Using your argument 'He just doesnt have sight, therefore he can be made to counter invisibility and have the ability described so that people could know that he can counter invisibility'

    Unless someone knows Dormammu already, no one would know that he is a mystic being (unless if they read his bio which isn't relevant to the game mechanics). Just because an ability is obscure in the game doesn't mean it shouldn't be described. Karnak is the only person that decreases class disadvantage it is obscure but doesn't mean it shouldn't be in his abilities page.
  • AndTavAndTav Member Posts: 261
    edited January 2019
    If she comes to the game will have to have the same ability of Hood, which is invisibility, so the DD should work the same way, otherwise, many players will complain.
    Hey Andtav,

    Thanks for the suggestion. The reason that Daredevil doesn't have this in his description is because it is not an ability on his end, but an exception on the opponent's Attack/Ability. In the future, there may be opponents that have an ability like this that Daredevil may not ignore, so we wouldn't have to put it on his information page.

    Hope that clears things up!

    ...Invisible Woman foreshadowing?

  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,032 ★★★★★
    Probably the reason they don't want to add this ability to his abilities list, is because they plan on adding someone that not only triggers invisibility, but also is able to hide their presence (making radar-sense uneless how).
    This exception could be written in that champion abilities list, and still giving DD the ability to ignore invisibility (as long as the opponent doesn't hide their presense as well)
  • PaytoPlayPaytoPlay Member Posts: 762 ★★★
    PaytoPlay wrote: »
    Can someone explain the "Easter Egg" to me? I dont see it.

    He is blind so he ignore some invisibility ability and will not miss when fighting champs like dark hawk.

    But whats the connection to She-Hulk?

    Just side convo to show how little details her ability profile is.
  • monomuggmonomugg Member Posts: 312 ★★
    it's somehow like the case with magneto being inmune to emma frost mind control effect
  • AndTavAndTav Member Posts: 261
    edited January 2019
    Truth!!! Juggernaut too, because they wear helmet, just like the stories, where Teacher Xavier could not do it either.
    monomugg wrote: »
    it's somehow like the case with magneto being inmune to emma frost mind control effect

  • ezgoingezgoing Member Posts: 284 ★★
    Yeah. For Emma Frost, and how Jug and Mags are immune to her mind control, one can easily say the same too. Lack of transparency Kabam! Nowhere in their bios or descriptions say their helmets are immune to mind control. Heck, so many other champs wear helmets too! And even robots with no minds get affected too??

    Don’t say you are following the comic because there are tons of other stuff you don’t follow the comic.
  • Cranmer00Cranmer00 Member Posts: 527 ★★
    Same thing with Magneto and Juggernaut... with Emma frost and Thanos inverted controls, does not penetrate their helmet.

    It’s kind of an Easter Egg like with DD being blind..
  • KaruseusKaruseus Member Posts: 528 ★★
    Can’t you just leave it as easter egg? I mean now you know it you don’t need description, no?
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,032 ★★★★★
    Karuseus wrote: »
    Can’t you just leave it as easter egg? I mean now you know it you don’t need description, no?

    It's more because these type of "easter-eggs" don't fit in a game with the ssme dynamics as MCOC.
    Disregarding their ingame bio, or any comic or movie they might had appear, no one would see this as an "hidden ability" and thinking it would make sense.
    It should at least be described anywhere, by writting in their abilities list or crrating new tags to create exceptions, for example
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