AW Jumping explaination

Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
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Can someone explain how this works? As this isn't violating any rules I'm interested in seeing what the alliances are doing and how it benefits an alliance. Doesn't make sense to me right now and would just like an explanation.

Thanks!

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  • NDK13NDK13 Member Posts: 620 ★★
    SHHHH........Keep quiet
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    NDK13 wrote: »
    SHHHH........Keep quiet

    I think it's a good strategy and I'd like to know more
  • CapWW2CapWW2 Member Posts: 2,901 ★★★★
    It is cheating
  • RaganatorRaganator Member Posts: 2,591 ★★★★★
    CapWW2 wrote: »
    It is cheating

    Operating within the system that Kabam created is not cheating. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean its cheating.
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Member Posts: 1,200 ★★★
    High tier ally moves to a different ally and plays in that one until they get to high tier again. Nothing tricky or complicated to it. They sacrifice higher tier rewards for more consistent wins at lower tiers.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    High tier ally moves to a different ally and plays in that one until they get to high tier again. Nothing tricky or complicated to it. They sacrifice higher tier rewards for more consistent wins at lower tiers.

    But they would lose out on aq and summoner advancement rewards.
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Member Posts: 1,200 ★★★
    Correct. That's the trade-off. And have to find an ally to move to that doesn't start from 0 war rating, or else it's a really bad decision. The people that do it generally don't need more class cats and were chasing 5*. Really I expect less of it because 5* value went down.
  • Draco2199Draco2199 Member Posts: 803 ★★★
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Correct. That's the trade-off. And have to find an ally to move to that doesn't start from 0 war rating, or else it's a really bad decision. The people that do it generally don't need more class cats and were chasing 5*. Really I expect less of it because 5* value went down.

    Gotcha
  • Vdh2008Vdh2008 Member Posts: 966 ★★★★
    Draco2199 wrote: »
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    High tier ally moves to a different ally and plays in that one until they get to high tier again. Nothing tricky or complicated to it. They sacrifice higher tier rewards for more consistent wins at lower tiers.

    But they would lose out on aq and summoner advancement rewards.

    From what I hear, these are alliances that don't NEED AQ rewards, as they have 100s of T4C crystals just sitting there.

    SA rewards are nothing compared to the amount of shards you can get winning 100% of wars for a few months.
  • TheOneAndOnlyTheOneAndOnly Member Posts: 690 ★★★
    DarkestDestroyer wrote: »
    It's an exploit and needs stopped asap.

    Basically all the alliances who think they are god tier etc are scared to face each other.

    Really impressive that isn't it...wimps

    The alliances playing the shell game are not the god tier alliances (those alliances only have it rigged currently not to have to face each other). The alliances playing the shell game are the other top 100 war rated alliances that do not like constantly losing wars due while exploring more than 85% of maps and beating all three BG bosses. The rewards for defeat are garbage.
  • Mainer123Mainer123 Member Posts: 543 ★★
    Raganator wrote: »
    CapWW2 wrote: »
    It is cheating

    Operating within the system that Kabam created is not cheating. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean its cheating.

    I call BS it is cheating it is an unfair advantage over the honest players who go about business the right and honest way . I'm sure all the people who do it cheat all through life to get ahead the easy way . Losers!
  • Mainer123Mainer123 Member Posts: 543 ★★
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    CapWW2 wrote: »
    It is cheating

    Operating within the system that Kabam created is not cheating. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean its cheating.

    I call BS it is cheating it is an unfair advantage over the honest players who go about business the right and honest way . I'm sure all the people who do it cheat all through life to get ahead the easy way . Losers!

    Show us on the doll where these ally swappers touched you...

    Haha wicked funny I guess I just choose to live my life with some morals. If they don't that's their prerogative Feel sorry for them though must be a rough way to make through life
  • RaganatorRaganator Member Posts: 2,591 ★★★★★
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    CapWW2 wrote: »
    It is cheating

    Operating within the system that Kabam created is not cheating. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean its cheating.

    I call BS it is cheating it is an unfair advantage over the honest players who go about business the right and honest way . I'm sure all the people who do it cheat all through life to get ahead the easy way . Losers!

    Show us on the doll where these ally swappers touched you...

    Haha wicked funny I guess I just choose to live my life with some morals. If they don't that's their prerogative Feel sorry for them though must be a rough way to make through life

    Honestly, if you get this worked up over a video game...perhaps its time for a new hobby.

  • Mainer123Mainer123 Member Posts: 543 ★★
    Wow some one on here is an expert flag pusher
  • RbvojtikRbvojtik Member Posts: 113
    Whether this loophole is cheating or not, it does create a lot of AW mismatches. Kabam, I imagine, will remedy this issue soon, as they resolved a similar issue with alliances jumping for AQ tiers.

    A potential solution would be to increase the rewards for tier 1; make it so the rewards for losing in tier 1, are better than the rewards for winning in a lower tier (or at least comparable).

    Prize blackouts probably wouldn't be as effective, since it would probably have to be for too long a period, especially if VDH is right, and that they are getting 100% AW rewards for a month or more (1 week of no rewards is negligible, but you can't be too harsh on individuals who merely change alliances).

    Another potential solution would be to put t2 alpha cats as rewards in AQ. Then, the rewards for AW wouldn't outweigh the blackout period for AQ.
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Member Posts: 1,200 ★★★
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    CapWW2 wrote: »
    It is cheating

    Operating within the system that Kabam created is not cheating. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean its cheating.

    I call BS it is cheating it is an unfair advantage over the honest players who go about business the right and honest way . I'm sure all the people who do it cheat all through life to get ahead the easy way . Losers!

    Show us on the doll where these ally swappers touched you...

    Haha wicked funny I guess I just choose to live my life with some morals. If they don't that's their prerogative Feel sorry for them though must be a rough way to make through life

    Honestly, if you get this worked up over a video game...perhaps its time for a new hobby.

    I'm not worked up at all . Just making an observation. In life there are good people and then there are scumbags if your the latter. Just feel bad for them

    So people either do everything the same way that you do or they are "scumbags"? Got it, super logical and not at all insane.
  • RaganatorRaganator Member Posts: 2,591 ★★★★★
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    CapWW2 wrote: »
    It is cheating

    Operating within the system that Kabam created is not cheating. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean its cheating.

    I call BS it is cheating it is an unfair advantage over the honest players who go about business the right and honest way . I'm sure all the people who do it cheat all through life to get ahead the easy way . Losers!

    Show us on the doll where these ally swappers touched you...

    Haha wicked funny I guess I just choose to live my life with some morals. If they don't that's their prerogative Feel sorry for them though must be a rough way to make through life

    Honestly, if you get this worked up over a video game...perhaps its time for a new hobby.

    I'm not worked up at all . Just making an observation. In life there are good people and then there are scumbags if your the latter. Just feel bad for them

    So people either do everything the same way that you do or they are "scumbags"? Got it, super logical and not at all insane.

    Well...he does sell himself as the moral center of the MCOC Universe.
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Member Posts: 1,200 ★★★
    @Mainer123 were you around for allies swapping in AQ? Now THAT was a big problem as there was a set reward pool that people were double dipping from. Created real problems within the game, not like this.
  • Mainer123Mainer123 Member Posts: 543 ★★
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    @Mainer123 were you around for allies swapping in AQ? Now THAT was a big problem as there was a set reward pool that people were double dipping from. Created real problems within the game, not like this.
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    CapWW2 wrote: »
    It is cheating

    Operating within the system that Kabam created is not cheating. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean its cheating.

    I call BS it is cheating it is an unfair advantage over the honest players who go about business the right and honest way . I'm sure all the people who do it cheat all through life to get ahead the easy way . Losers!

    Show us on the doll where these ally swappers touched you...

    Haha wicked funny I guess I just choose to live my life with some morals. If they don't that's their prerogative Feel sorry for them though must be a rough way to make through life

    Honestly, if you get this worked up over a video game...perhaps its time for a new hobby.

    I'm not worked up at all . Just making an observation. In life there are good people and then there are scumbags if your the latter. Just feel bad for them

    So people either do everything the same way that you do or they are "scumbags"? Got it, super logical and not at all insane.

    Thanks for putting words in my mouth I appreciate that real classy bub
  • Mainer123Mainer123 Member Posts: 543 ★★
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    @Mainer123 were you around for allies swapping in AQ? Now THAT was a big problem as there was a set reward pool that people were double dipping from. Created real problems within the game, not like this.

    Fortunately no I have been playing 2 years this dec but only joined an alliance in the past few months . Got all my stuff on my own . But hat sounds like a real mess
  • Mainer123Mainer123 Member Posts: 543 ★★
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Mainer123 wrote: »
    Raganator wrote: »
    CapWW2 wrote: »
    It is cheating

    Operating within the system that Kabam created is not cheating. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean its cheating.

    I call BS it is cheating it is an unfair advantage over the honest players who go about business the right and honest way . I'm sure all the people who do it cheat all through life to get ahead the easy way . Losers!

    Show us on the doll where these ally swappers touched you...

    Haha wicked funny I guess I just choose to live my life with some morals. If they don't that's their prerogative Feel sorry for them though must be a rough way to make through life

    Honestly, if you get this worked up over a video game...perhaps its time for a new hobby.

    I'm not worked up at all . Just making an observation. In life there are good people and then there are scumbags if your the latter. Just feel bad for them

    So people either do everything the same way that you do or they are "scumbags"? Got it, super logical and not at all insane.

    Maybe if you can't comprehend what I'm getting at there a chance you are one of the latter of the two. Just saying. It's a simple concept you either screw people over or you don't period .
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Member Posts: 1,200 ★★★
    Comprehending everything in only "black and white" is very dangerous, you miss out on all the good stuff in the gray area. But it's funny that you reply once saying that's not what you said and then reply a second time saying I might be a "scumbag" too.

    Either way, I have no intention of swaying your belief. Have fun in an ally, the people you meet are the main reason to stick around in the game.
  • LocoMotivesLocoMotives Member Posts: 1,200 ★★★
    Maybe make the shard rewards closer to 50/50 for winning/exploration than the 80/20ish that it is now? Don't know, just trying to think of a solution.
  • ThawnimThawnim Member Posts: 1,461 ★★★★
    LocoMotives wrote: »
    Maybe make the shard rewards closer to 50/50 for winning/exploration than the 80/20ish that it is now? Don't know, just trying to think of a solution.

    I agree 100%. Participation rewards need to be better. No reason you should miss out on extra shards if you beat all three battlegroups and explore 80-90% of the enemy's map.
  • TenebrousTenebrificTenebrousTenebrific Administrator, Moderator Posts: 461
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