Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points
No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
Two different things
Mcord is correct. Taking the node is considered attack/kill points. So if you place no one your opponent will still get the points for clearing that spot on the board. This is how it has always worked.
Nope. I have fought against alliance that placed no defenders, and when you go through a node empty, it doesn't count you a kill.
to elaborate, in AW 1.0, attacker kills = 50 points, tile exploration = 450 points
You are correct, however they mentioned they will increase the amount of attack points. So this could be a win for our wallets if alliances start agreeing to place no defense.
How can you agree? They removed who you're facing before the attack phase starts, since people were having fun with 2* wars and some were lied to causing them to lose badly.
Basically the same way they agree now. Schedule your matchmaking.
Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points
No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
Two different things
Mcord is correct. Taking the node is considered attack/kill points. So if you place no one your opponent will still get the points for clearing that spot on the board. This is how it has always worked.
Nope. I have fought against alliance that placed no defenders, and when you go through a node empty, it doesn't count you a kill.
to elaborate, in AW 1.0, attacker kills = 50 points, tile exploration = 450 points
You are correct, however they mentioned they will increase the amount of attack points. So this could be a win for our wallets if alliances start agreeing to place no defense.
How can you agree? They removed who you're facing before the attack phase starts, since people were having fun with 2* wars and some were lied to causing them to lose badly.
Basically the same way they agree now. Schedule your matchmaking.
Let's not talk about this in here please, they will close the thread if they see that is in discussion
Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points
No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
Two different things
Mcord is correct. Taking the node is considered attack/kill points. So if you place no one your opponent will still get the points for clearing that spot on the board. This is how it has always worked.
Nope. I have fought against alliance that placed no defenders, and when you go through a node empty, it doesn't count you a kill.
It counts as a boss kill though if there is no boss placed
Points will be scored by taking node. If no defender still het points. Like if there was no boss im old aw still got 20k points
No. They said kill points in attack will be the major part of the points. Exploration is taking nodes, attack kill points is defeating a defender.
Two different things
Mcord is correct. Taking the node is considered attack/kill points. So if you place no one your opponent will still get the points for clearing that spot on the board. This is how it has always worked.
Nope. I have fought against alliance that placed no defenders, and when you go through a node empty, it doesn't count you a kill.
It counts as a boss kill though if there is no boss placed
Only for the bosses nodes yes, but the other doesn't work like that
Yeah, the old system was 350 points per node in exploration, 50 points for an attacker kill and 100 points for a defender kill.
Interesting tactic on placing minimal defense. I'm curious to see how the points shake out.
I'd also be keen on a 2* war, that would be a blast.
Before a very strong (or the strongest alliance) would suggest to the other alliance to have 2* wars. Why? Because the stronger alliance would be able to use weaker defenders and attackers to use their strongest champs in the AQ or other game modes.
Well you would always need place atleast 1 defender so the rating of those defenders and the diversity would be the tiebreaker
But if you place one and the other alliance none, you should loose due to the kill points that the other alliance has
You can't place no defenders
Erm... yes you can
If someone forgets to place they don't place, but can still join without placing
Erm... If someone forgets to place the game will put the champs randomly down where there are empty spots
Get your facts right
I think they were referring to locking in your champs. As in you can have no one join the AW during placement phase and yet join the attack phase after, while having no defenders of your own.
Would points for defender rating and defender diversity be more than the points from attacker kills? If so, then the team with full defense would still beat a team with no defense, even if both got 100% exploration.
Would points for defender rating and defender diversity be more than the points from attacker kills? If so, then the team with full defense would still beat a team with no defense, even if both got 100% exploration.
Those points were already irrelevant before, I don't think it makes a huge difference
Would points for defender rating and defender diversity be more than the points from attacker kills? If so, then the team with full defense would still beat a team with no defense, even if both got 100% exploration.
Those points were already irrelevant before, I don't think it makes a huge difference
But werent they only irrelevent because they just equaled about the same as your opponents? Can't remember how much it was.
So maybe a gentleman's agreement should be reached amongst alliances to not place defense less sub and main boss
We could definitely do that, and remember sometimes it may not work out perfectly as planned. If someone double crosses just blacklist them. Then move on.
So maybe a gentleman's agreement should be reached amongst alliances to not place defense less sub and main boss
Would have to discuss this with my alliance. Also would like to know how I can get in contact with other about such a thing and info in where I can find a blacklist of alliances who lied when it came to such things.
If such a tactic would work, I'm sure there are certain forms of communication outside the game itself that ppl use for ino that could spread the word..
So, you can definitely decide not to place Defenders, but this isn't new. This is something that's been possible for a while, and has been tried multiple times. It usually doesn't go well. Remember that you still get points for Defender Rating, and now, Defender Diversity.
So, you can definitely decide not to place Defenders, but this isn't new. This is something that's been possible for a while, and has been tried multiple times. It usually doesn't go well. Remember that you still get points for Defender Rating, and now, Defender Diversity.
Thank you Miike, still I'll give it a try, and if it doesn't work, well it'll only be 1 GA lost
So, you can definitely decide not to place Defenders, but this isn't new. This is something that's been possible for a while, and has been tried multiple times. It usually doesn't go well. Remember that you still get points for Defender Rating, and now, Defender Diversity.
The point here is that you aren't giving the other group attacker kills if you place no defense. They will only get boss kills if you don't place bosses but maybe they don't even get all 5 if you do place bosses and they can't manage. However you are getting attacker kills if the other group DOES place a defense. If all points allocations remains the same then you could potentially win without even having a defense!
So, you can definitely decide not to place Defenders, but this isn't new. This is something that's been possible for a while, and has been tried multiple times. It usually doesn't go well. Remember that you still get points for Defender Rating, and now, Defender Diversity.
Here's what everyone is getting at:
You don't get points for defensive kills anymore, right? Only for offensive kills and exploration. Couldn't you just not place defenders and win almost every time? If those are the only two ways to get points, not placing defenders slices the opponent's points in half every single time. It's almost a guaranteed win every War.
Ok so it looks like Kabam really wants us to spend and use revives and potions bcos it doesnt matter now how many times u die fighting off an enemy, as u get points by killing the enemy. So player tendency now would be to use revive and kill as much, esp if u still have a big chance of winning.
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Basically the same way they agree now. Schedule your matchmaking.
Let's not talk about this in here please, they will close the thread if they see that is in discussion
Erm... yes you can
If someone forgets to place they don't place, but can still join without placing
It counts as a boss kill though if there is no boss placed
Only for the bosses nodes yes, but the other doesn't work like that
Interesting tactic on placing minimal defense. I'm curious to see how the points shake out.
I'd also be keen on a 2* war, that would be a blast.
Erm... If someone forgets to place the game will put the champs randomly down where there are empty spots
Get your facts right
Before a very strong (or the strongest alliance) would suggest to the other alliance to have 2* wars. Why? Because the stronger alliance would be able to use weaker defenders and attackers to use their strongest champs in the AQ or other game modes.
He means if you don't join a battlegroup at all, you can still attack
You know you don't have to enter in Defense to enter the attack phase ?
I think they were referring to locking in your champs. As in you can have no one join the AW during placement phase and yet join the attack phase after, while having no defenders of your own.
Just realised that now lol thanks
Those points were already irrelevant before, I don't think it makes a huge difference
But werent they only irrelevent because they just equaled about the same as your opponents? Can't remember how much it was.
We could definitely do that, and remember sometimes it may not work out perfectly as planned. If someone double crosses just blacklist them. Then move on.
Would have to discuss this with my alliance. Also would like to know how I can get in contact with other about such a thing and info in where I can find a blacklist of alliances who lied when it came to such things.
So, you can definitely decide not to place Defenders, but this isn't new. This is something that's been possible for a while, and has been tried multiple times. It usually doesn't go well. Remember that you still get points for Defender Rating, and now, Defender Diversity.
Thank you Miike, still I'll give it a try, and if it doesn't work, well it'll only be 1 GA lost
The point here is that you aren't giving the other group attacker kills if you place no defense. They will only get boss kills if you don't place bosses but maybe they don't even get all 5 if you do place bosses and they can't manage. However you are getting attacker kills if the other group DOES place a defense. If all points allocations remains the same then you could potentially win without even having a defense!
Here's what everyone is getting at:
You don't get points for defensive kills anymore, right? Only for offensive kills and exploration. Couldn't you just not place defenders and win almost every time? If those are the only two ways to get points, not placing defenders slices the opponent's points in half every single time. It's almost a guaranteed win every War.
No, it'll all be about potion and revive usage.