Map 6 costs are about to spike for 6-5-5 players. Kabam promised an update. Any news?

TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,118 ★★★★★
If you’re in a 6-5-5 alliance, your 8-day donations have been 130k-7k-9k. Starting next week, map 6 players in those groups have to pay 170k-20k-16k, and Kabam removed an extra 100k+ from rewards.

Kabam promised some news to try to salvage this situation for mixed map alliances (a great feature that Kabam promoted when they made it).

We are on the brink of this new system, and it seems like there need to either be more free maps or discounted entry for affected players. This subset of the player base is taking a huge hit, and it’s damaging to the health of alliances if Kabam doesn’t give some idea of what to expect (even a timetable on when to expect something...)

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  • Big_Boss_Man_e7Big_Boss_Man_e7 Member Posts: 13
    I completely agree. We run a mix of map 5&6 and these changes havent been beneficial. I understand the tickets and like that idea where everyone has to pay their own way to enter, but why did they have to cut rewards?
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,118 ★★★★★
    A substantial cut to rewards and a substantial increase to cost. It’s clear this was never calculated in development.
  • Patchie93Patchie93 Member Posts: 1,898 ★★★★
    TyEdge said:

    If you’re in a 6-5-5 alliance, your 8-day donations have been 130k-7k-9k. Starting next week, map 6 players in those groups have to pay 170k-20k-16k, and Kabam removed an extra 100k+ from rewards.

    Kabam promised some news to try to salvage this situation for mixed map alliances (a great feature that Kabam promoted when they made it).

    We are on the brink of this new system, and it seems like there need to either be more free maps or discounted entry for affected players. This subset of the player base is taking a huge hit, and it’s damaging to the health of alliances if Kabam doesn’t give some idea of what to expect (even a timetable on when to expect something...)

    They said the earliest fix would be in August update. So either run 6x5 or 5x5 or be prepared for people to leave the alliance
  • Gonzo1191Gonzo1191 Member Posts: 3


    This is where Kabam Mike specifically said they were working on a solution until August. It's time to hear it if the ticket system is live with the next aq.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,118 ★★★★★
    Gonzo1191 said:



    This is where Kabam Mike specifically said they were working on a solution until August. It's time to hear it if the ticket system is live with the next aq.

    Thank you for finding the relevant old post. Not my strongsuit. Even if the solution or the details aren’t settled, some sort of timetable would go a LONG way. This problem affects whether people can rank champs, whether they want to stay in their alliances, etc.

    It deserves some sort of update.
  • ZlobberZlobber Member Posts: 7
    TyEdge said:

    If you’re in a 6-5-5 alliance, your 8-day donations have been 130k-7k-9k. Starting next week, map 6 players in those groups have to pay 170k-20k-16k, and Kabam removed an extra 100k+ from rewards.

    Kabam promised some news to try to salvage this situation for mixed map alliances (a great feature that Kabam promoted when they made it).

    We are on the brink of this new system, and it seems like there need to either be more free maps or discounted entry for affected players. This subset of the player base is taking a huge hit, and it’s damaging to the health of alliances if Kabam doesn’t give some idea of what to expect (even a timetable on when to expect something...)


    -The 170k-20k-16k is per 8 days not per week.
    (148k-17.5k-14k is the average weekly equivalent)
    It’s still more then it was - but not that much.

    While waiting for a permanent fix from Kabam. You could rotate players running the map 6 bg to even out the cost over time.

    Or take the opportunity to make a push with 6-6-6.

    Or go 5-5-5 for a few weeks.

    Adopting to the change one way or another seems healthier then worrying about 33% of the alliance having to pay 18k-10.5k-5k more per week.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,118 ★★★★★
    Zlobber said:

    TyEdge said:

    If you’re in a 6-5-5 alliance, your 8-day donations have been 130k-7k-9k. Starting next week, map 6 players in those groups have to pay 170k-20k-16k, and Kabam removed an extra 100k+ from rewards.

    Kabam promised some news to try to salvage this situation for mixed map alliances (a great feature that Kabam promoted when they made it).

    We are on the brink of this new system, and it seems like there need to either be more free maps or discounted entry for affected players. This subset of the player base is taking a huge hit, and it’s damaging to the health of alliances if Kabam doesn’t give some idea of what to expect (even a timetable on when to expect something...)


    -The 170k-20k-16k is per 8 days not per week.
    (148k-17.5k-14k is the average weekly equivalent)
    It’s still more then it was - but not that much.

    While waiting for a permanent fix from Kabam. You could rotate players running the map 6 bg to even out the cost over time.

    Or take the opportunity to make a push with 6-6-6.

    Or go 5-5-5 for a few weeks.

    Adopting to the change one way or another seems healthier then worrying about 33% of the alliance having to pay 18k-10.5k-5k more per week.
    All numbers I posted were for 8-day donations, not weekly. Stop minimizing the harm this is doing to map 6 players
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,118 ★★★★★
    It’s especially disappointing since they promoted mixed map alliances in the past, and not only have they not considered the harm they’re doing to them, but they’re totally silent about a fix.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,078 ★★★★★
    TyEdge said:

    Gonzo1191 said:



    This is where Kabam Mike specifically said they were working on a solution until August. It's time to hear it if the ticket system is live with the next aq.

    Thank you for finding the relevant old post. Not my strongsuit. Even if the solution or the details aren’t settled, some sort of timetable would go a LONG way. This problem affects whether people can rank champs, whether they want to stay in their alliances, etc.

    It deserves some sort of update.
    How in the hell does any of this have to do with ranking champs?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,078 ★★★★★


    Here is how it's supposed to break down. You come out on top by about 16k.
  • Gonzo1191Gonzo1191 Member Posts: 3
    Aq starts in 3 hours and 18 mins please kabam please give us an update.
  • Wakandas_FinestWakandas_Finest Member Posts: 859 ★★★★

    Mike439 said:

    Zlobber said:

    TyEdge said:

    If you’re in a 6-5-5 alliance, your 8-day donations have been 130k-7k-9k. Starting next week, map 6 players in those groups have to pay 170k-20k-16k, and Kabam removed an extra 100k+ from rewards.

    Kabam promised some news to try to salvage this situation for mixed map alliances (a great feature that Kabam promoted when they made it).

    We are on the brink of this new system, and it seems like there need to either be more free maps or discounted entry for affected players. This subset of the player base is taking a huge hit, and it’s damaging to the health of alliances if Kabam doesn’t give some idea of what to expect (even a timetable on when to expect something...)


    -The 170k-20k-16k is per 8 days not per week.
    (148k-17.5k-14k is the average weekly equivalent)
    It’s still more then it was - but not that much.

    While waiting for a permanent fix from Kabam. You could rotate players running the map 6 bg to even out the cost over time.

    Or take the opportunity to make a push with 6-6-6.

    Or go 5-5-5 for a few weeks.

    Adopting to the change one way or another seems healthier then worrying about 33% of the alliance having to pay 18k-10.5k-5k more per week.
    It’s just dumb that now 10 people pay more to run map 6 instead of the alliance splitting it like before.

    They implemented this KNOWING it caused problems for split maps but magically came up with a better idea a few days later that can’t be implemented for a few months? They should have just left it alone for now or presented it as an idea to get suggestions instead of putting out something they knew was bad.
    I think it's dumb that the 20 people are getting map 6 rewards for free and less effort. 🤷
    Couldn’t agree more with this statement. People complaining about extra costs but they sure as heck don’t mind getting extra rewards for free. It’s why I never joined a split map alliance. The idea of people getting rewards they otherwise wouldn’t get cause they can’t step up Just never sat well with me.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,118 ★★★★★
    edited June 2020

    Mike439 said:

    Zlobber said:

    TyEdge said:

    If you’re in a 6-5-5 alliance, your 8-day donations have been 130k-7k-9k. Starting next week, map 6 players in those groups have to pay 170k-20k-16k, and Kabam removed an extra 100k+ from rewards.

    Kabam promised some news to try to salvage this situation for mixed map alliances (a great feature that Kabam promoted when they made it).

    We are on the brink of this new system, and it seems like there need to either be more free maps or discounted entry for affected players. This subset of the player base is taking a huge hit, and it’s damaging to the health of alliances if Kabam doesn’t give some idea of what to expect (even a timetable on when to expect something...)


    -The 170k-20k-16k is per 8 days not per week.
    (148k-17.5k-14k is the average weekly equivalent)
    It’s still more then it was - but not that much.

    While waiting for a permanent fix from Kabam. You could rotate players running the map 6 bg to even out the cost over time.

    Or take the opportunity to make a push with 6-6-6.

    Or go 5-5-5 for a few weeks.

    Adopting to the change one way or another seems healthier then worrying about 33% of the alliance having to pay 18k-10.5k-5k more per week.
    It’s just dumb that now 10 people pay more to run map 6 instead of the alliance splitting it like before.

    They implemented this KNOWING it caused problems for split maps but magically came up with a better idea a few days later that can’t be implemented for a few months? They should have just left it alone for now or presented it as an idea to get suggestions instead of putting out something they knew was bad.
    I think it's dumb that the 20 people are getting map 6 rewards for free and less effort. 🤷
    I think its dumb you dont think about the possible circumstances 30 people would decide to do that🤷.
    This was advantageous when there was a trade off. I could keep map costs and donations low, get some map 6 rewards, and not have to grind arena for gold. Now the map 6 people bear the full cost, and it builds resentment towards others who literally can’t contribute to offset.

    @Kabam Miike or @Kabam Zibiit said there would be an update regarding some sort of bandaid to get us to August. I hope we can at least get a “we’ll be in touch early next week” or something...
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  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,118 ★★★★★
    Verzz said:

    Here is my two cents:

    Split map alliances were not a thing until Kabam changed the system to allow alliances to run split maps. When this became an option alliances could choose to split the costs equally while running different maps with the treasury system. When they decided to take this away it seems as if they forgot that split alliances were a thing.

    If there isn’t something that addresses this in the road map due “early June” then I have no choice but to assume that the message that said they are “looking for ways to alleviate” is nothing but lip service.

    It feels like lip service so they can just stall until August.

    Easy fix: adjust ticket prices in the interim. If you’re worried about hoarding, apply the discount only to the first 25 tickets bought with each resource.

    Harder but equitable fix: announce some sort of giveback for mixed map alliances that’ll be finalized when distributed costs go live.
  • Forgotten2Forgotten2 Member Posts: 179 ★★
    They said August.... how about fully read the posts
  • Kabam ZibiitKabam Zibiit Administrator Posts: 7,033
    Hey there everyone, we've got more information on the plans between now and the changes coming ing August here.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,118 ★★★★★
    Thank you for the reply, and great job on this plan @Kabam Zibiit
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