Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
Well I disagree that her kit is fine the way it is and doesn't need to be improved upon. That being said for me it still makes sense Angela got a tune up the Asgardian synergies are still relevant and everyone has her so I say go for it.
No matter what happens in this game some people just have to complain. If it makes a champ more viable to use or opens up a possibility that wasn't there before why even complain? Just enjoy it.
A nerf is one thing but a simple tune up that is beneficial to anyone that has her or will get her in the future? That's what I call a win win
I still think it's strange the asgardians arent poison immune or thor rag completely shock immune ( or even better shocks ramp him up) and loki could be frost bite/cold snap immune. Like dude if all of the captain Marvel's and Ronan are poison immune the gods should be as well
I was really hoping they would focus on her synergies with loki and the thors. I've never understood why they're so unwilling to make unique synergies more often. For instance Loki could send a equivalent of a life model decoy and gain Power each time it is struck (or a falter like mechanic)
I still think it's strange the asgardians arent poison immune or thor rag completely shock immune ( or even better shocks ramp him up) and loki could be frost bite/cold snap immune. Like dude if all of the captain Marvel's and Ronan are poison immune the gods should be as well
I was really hoping they would focus on her synergies with loki and the thors. I've never understood why they're so unwilling to make unique synergies more often. For instance Loki could send a equivalent of a life model decoy and gain Power each time it is struck (or a falter like mechanic)
Why do people want everything to happen at their timetable. If Kabam decides to change x champ, forum explodes asking why not y champ. People designing the game have plans months ahead which players are not privy to.
Even after a mod replies, we still get an question asking why she was selected. Any update to a old champ is good and we can assume that since she already has a moderate kit, updating her numbers will be easier than overhauling a older champ which they have also told is on the works. Please be patient.
Not to mention if they decide in the future to change anything about an already buffed up champ again, they can and will. Nothing ever said it was a one time buff to these champs and thats it forever.
Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.
Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.
Thats a Solid point Miike. Looking forward to seeing what you guys do with her... p.s please atleast add bleed to her new abilities 🤔
Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.
Thats a Solid point Miike. Looking forward to seeing what you guys do with her... p.s please atleast add bleed to her new abilities 🤔
Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.
Thats a Solid point Miike. Looking forward to seeing what you guys do with her... p.s please atleast add bleed to her new abilities 🤔
Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.
Thats a Solid point Miike. Looking forward to seeing what you guys do with her... p.s please atleast add bleed to her new abilities 🤔
There are no new abilities. Just number changes.
Miike: Value Update
People on the forums: pLeAsE aDd BlEeDs
Bleeds ARE numbers. Red ones even. 🤣😂🤣
And also make her immune to damage and give her prowess. PlEaSe KaBaM!
Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.
Thats a Solid point Miike. Looking forward to seeing what you guys do with her... p.s please atleast add bleed to her new abilities 🤔
There are no new abilities. Just number changes.
Miike: Value Update
People on the forums: pLeAsE aDd BlEeDs
Bleeds ARE numbers. Red ones even. 🤣😂🤣
Ah yes.
Math lesson with Damien.
Currently bleeds = non existent on Angela.
So if we update the values of her non existent bleeds we get 0. Because they don't exist on her.
Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.
For sure for sure. Pls do Morningstar
Saying ms needs a buff... that’s like saying she’s bad... jk
Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
It's amazing that you still don't understand. Miike AGREES with you. BUT what you're not getting is that there is a process to all of this to make sure they can turn out the buffs on time. March IS NOT FOR OVERHAULS. 2 tune ups and 2 updates. These are minor buffs only. Not to add new abilities like Miike said and then you go and ask them to add bleeds to Angela.
Well i do agree on the path that you guys are taking with updating champs whether it be a tuneup or overhaul. I agree with the updates to miles and BP they do desperately need it. I am curious to see what the plans are for Angela. My statement was that there are champs that need it before she does.
Oh for sure, I will definitely agree that there are Champs that need a buff more than Angela, but the list of Champions that need a Value Only update before Angela is a much smaller list.
I’m just happy it feels like @Kabam Miike is peeking in on my roster and picking champs I have for buffs.
Before anything, I want to say that I appreciate all updates that make champs better for us (the players), and am glad it's happening.
01) No, we're not asking for buffs to go in order from oldest to newest, but I personally do wish that Kabam would prioritize more of the oldest champs in the game. The 2014 pool is all but useless at this point, and the majority of them have been for several years.
02) Yes, we get the difference between tune-ups, updates and overhauls. We get that there are different time-frames involved with how how much work needs to go into each one. What some of us don't get, is why are characters that have been useless since pretty much 2014 are still on the back burner, when champs that came out several years later are getting priority over them... especially when they're not necessarily bad.
03) Kabams gonna do what they're gonna do. We also get that. But, some people are just bummed that the so many of the original champs have been unfun and pretty much unusable in the game for so long. Colossus and Gamora are the only 2 champs from 2014 that have seen some love so far (and colossus was an amazing rework - kudos, amazing update for an OG character who really once was bottom of the barrel)!
04) Would it be so bad if a couple more 2014 champs got prioritized for ANY type of buff before a couple newer champs that already have better synergies or relevance in the game right now? Why would that be so bad?
Before anything, I want to say that I appreciate all updates that make champs better for us (the players), and am glad it's happening.
01) No, we're not asking for buffs to go in order from oldest to newest, but I personally do wish that Kabam would prioritize more of the oldest champs in the game. The 2014 pool is all but useless at this point, and the majority of them have been for several years.
02) Yes, we get the difference between tune-ups, updates and overhauls. We get that there are different time-frames involved with how how much work needs to go into each one. What some of us don't get, is why are characters that have been useless since pretty much 2014 are still on the back burner, when champs that came out several years later are getting priority over them... especially when they're not necessarily bad.
03) Kabams gonna do what they're gonna do. We also get that. But, some people are just bummed that the so many of the original champs have been unfun and pretty much unusable in the game for so long. Colossus and Gamora are the only 2 champs from 2014 that have seen some love so far (and colossus was an amazing rework - kudos, amazing update for an OG character who really once was bottom of the barrel)!
04) Would it be so bad if a couple more 2014 champs got prioritized for ANY type of buff before a couple newer champs that already have better synergies or relevance in the game right now? Why would that be so bad?
I still think it's strange the asgardians arent poison immune or thor rag completely shock immune ( or even better shocks ramp him up) and loki could be frost bite/cold snap immune. Like dude if all of the captain Marvel's and Ronan are poison immune the gods should be as well
I was really hoping they would focus on her synergies with loki and the thors. I've never understood why they're so unwilling to make unique synergies more often. For instance Loki could send a equivalent of a life model decoy and gain Power each time it is struck (or a falter like mechanic)
Because he can still get shocked, even in the Thor Ragnarok movie.
My will... has expired.
Lol yeah I know it was a running joke in the movie. He got "shocked" like 20 times and in the final battle with hela he also took a lightning bolt to the face but hey if your main weapon is lightning and you're only 70% immune so be it. I don't have him anyway
04) Would it be so bad if a couple more 2014 champs got prioritized for ANY type of buff before a couple newer champs that already have better synergies or relevance in the game right now? Why would that be so bad?
Yes, it would be bad. I mean that literally: applying a numbers-only buff to any of the very oldest champs would be bad for the game. If you look at the oldest champions, they barely have any abilities at all. They were designed at a time when having any abilities at all was meaningful. Relative to todays content, they don't just lack useful abilities, they almost lack abilities period.
So I think when it comes to champs like Iron Man, or Captain America, or Ms Marvel, or Black Bolt, just tweaking their numbers would be worse than doing nothing. It would throw away developer time on something we know is doomed to fail to make those champs more relevant or interesting, and yet put them back to the end of the line for updates. They clearly need more, and doing less than what they need just to placate people who want the developers to do something right now is time I would not want the developers wasting.
I still think it's strange the asgardians arent poison immune or thor rag completely shock immune ( or even better shocks ramp him up) and loki could be frost bite/cold snap immune. Like dude if all of the captain Marvel's and Ronan are poison immune the gods should be as well
I was really hoping they would focus on her synergies with loki and the thors. I've never understood why they're so unwilling to make unique synergies more often. For instance Loki could send a equivalent of a life model decoy and gain Power each time it is struck (or a falter like mechanic)
Because he can still get shocked, even in the Thor Ragnarok movie.
My will... has expired.
Lol yeah I know it was a running joke in the movie. He got "shocked" like 20 times and in the final battle with hela he also took a lightning bolt to the face but hey if your main weapon is lightning and you're only 70% immune so be it. I don't have him anyway
The Punisher's main weapon is bullets and he's 0% immune to those. Or if you prefer, electric eels main weapon is electric shock, and they aren't immune to electricity either.
Also, I have no idea how the joke even got started that Thor gets "shocked" in Thor Ragnarok, as it is never stated that is what the obedience disk does. A simple shocking device would be ineffective against aliens like Korg, who are composed of completely non-conductive rocks. I'm pretty sure a device that can control thousands of aliens from across the galaxy is not just a joy buzzer.
Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.
I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.
So with all do respect miike wouldn't there be other champs that need a "update" or "tune up" before Angela she isn't even that bad... champs that have been in the game longer need to be adjusted to the current meta... OG iron man. OG Thor... for example need to be adjusted to be relevant and have some use... even cyclops is terrible no matter how you look at him...
Dude, please read what you're replying to. We've been super clear about what players can expect and how often you'll get each kind of Buff. If we didn't choose Angela for a value only update, it doesn't mean that Iron Man would be getting a buff. He needs more love than a Value only update, and we would only switch her out for another Champ that needs a value only update.
You guys should give them what they want, just to spite them. Make OG Iron Man have a tune up instead and just have slightly better armor ups and some more attack value as his only buff
Sometimes I question most of this forum's ability to read.
Angela is receiving a Value Only update. That means that we'll be changing some numbers, but not adding any new abilities or modifications to her Kit. While I understand that there are other Champions that need the love more than Angela, it's important to remember what each kind of update means. We've been very explicit with the types of updates and what each entails.
I don't think War Machine or Storm need a value only update, they need something more involved.
So with all do respect miike wouldn't there be other champs that need a "update" or "tune up" before Angela she isn't even that bad... champs that have been in the game longer need to be adjusted to the current meta... OG iron man. OG Thor... for example need to be adjusted to be relevant and have some use... even cyclops is terrible no matter how you look at him...
Dude, please read what you're replying to. We've been super clear about what players can expect and how often you'll get each kind of Buff. If we didn't choose Angela for a value only update, it doesn't mean that Iron Man would be getting a buff. He needs more love than a Value only update, and we would only switch her out for another Champ that needs a value only update.
Iron man will be rework too !!! At last my 6 stars duped iron man will become useful 😅
Before anything, I want to say that I appreciate all updates that make champs better for us (the players), and am glad it's happening.
01) No, we're not asking for buffs to go in order from oldest to newest, but I personally do wish that Kabam would prioritize more of the oldest champs in the game. The 2014 pool is all but useless at this point, and the majority of them have been for several years.
02) Yes, we get the difference between tune-ups, updates and overhauls. We get that there are different time-frames involved with how how much work needs to go into each one. What some of us don't get, is why are characters that have been useless since pretty much 2014 are still on the back burner, when champs that came out several years later are getting priority over them... especially when they're not necessarily bad.
03) Kabams gonna do what they're gonna do. We also get that. But, some people are just bummed that the so many of the original champs have been unfun and pretty much unusable in the game for so long. Colossus and Gamora are the only 2 champs from 2014 that have seen some love so far (and colossus was an amazing rework - kudos, amazing update for an OG character who really once was bottom of the barrel)!
04) Would it be so bad if a couple more 2014 champs got prioritized for ANY type of buff before a couple newer champs that already have better synergies or relevance in the game right now? Why would that be so bad?
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No matter what happens in this game some people just have to complain. If it makes a champ more viable to use or opens up a possibility that wasn't there before why even complain? Just enjoy it.
A nerf is one thing but a simple tune up that is beneficial to anyone that has her or will get her in the future? That's what I call a win win
Like dude if all of the captain Marvel's and Ronan are poison immune the gods should be as well
I was really hoping they would focus on her synergies with loki and the thors. I've never understood why they're so unwilling to make unique synergies more often. For instance Loki could send a equivalent of a life model decoy and gain Power each time it is struck (or a falter like mechanic)
Because he can still get shocked, even in the Thor Ragnarok movie.
My will... has expired.
Even after a mod replies, we still get an question asking why she was selected. Any update to a old champ is good and we can assume that since she already has a moderate kit, updating her numbers will be easier than overhauling a older champ which they have also told is on the works. Please be patient.
People on the forums: pLeAsE aDd BlEeDs
Red ones even. 🤣😂🤣
Math lesson with Damien.
Currently bleeds = non existent on Angela.
So if we update the values of her non existent bleeds we get 0. Because they don't exist on her.
End lesson.
Zero complaints about a better Angela.
Dr. Zola
01)
No, we're not asking for buffs to go in order from oldest to newest, but I personally do wish that Kabam would prioritize more of the oldest champs in the game. The 2014 pool is all but useless at this point, and the majority of them have been for several years.
02)
Yes, we get the difference between tune-ups, updates and overhauls. We get that there are different time-frames involved with how how much work needs to go into each one. What some of us don't get, is why are characters that have been useless since pretty much 2014 are still on the back burner, when champs that came out several years later are getting priority over them... especially when they're not necessarily bad.
03)
Kabams gonna do what they're gonna do. We also get that. But, some people are just bummed that the so many of the original champs have been unfun and pretty much unusable in the game for so long. Colossus and Gamora are the only 2 champs from 2014 that have seen some love so far (and colossus was an amazing rework - kudos, amazing update for an OG character who really once was bottom of the barrel)!
04)
Would it be so bad if a couple more 2014 champs got prioritized for ANY type of buff before a couple newer champs that already have better synergies or relevance in the game right now? Why would that be so bad?
https://marvel-contestofchampions.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Champions
You and I both have cars. My car needs an oil change. Your car needs a full restoration.
My car gets done in an hour. Your car takes 3 months.
What you and others keep asking for are full restorations in the time it takes to get a oil change.
Do you get it yet? Understand?
So I think when it comes to champs like Iron Man, or Captain America, or Ms Marvel, or Black Bolt, just tweaking their numbers would be worse than doing nothing. It would throw away developer time on something we know is doomed to fail to make those champs more relevant or interesting, and yet put them back to the end of the line for updates. They clearly need more, and doing less than what they need just to placate people who want the developers to do something right now is time I would not want the developers wasting.
Also, I have no idea how the joke even got started that Thor gets "shocked" in Thor Ragnarok, as it is never stated that is what the obedience disk does. A simple shocking device would be ineffective against aliens like Korg, who are composed of completely non-conductive rocks. I'm pretty sure a device that can control thousands of aliens from across the galaxy is not just a joy buzzer.
At last my 6 stars duped iron man will become useful 😅