Cap iw Bug with Proxima in the eventquest

DarkdanDarkdan Member Posts: 8 ★
edited September 2021 in Bugs and Known Issues
Hi guys,

I seem to encounter a strange phenomen. I am fighting with cap against proxima at the boss node in the eventquest (cavalier). And Everytime I get a kinetic charge, it gets immediately removed and the log says purified. But I was not affected by any sort of debuff at the time.
Anyone seen this happening before?



Kind regards,
Dan

Comments

  • DarkdanDarkdan Member Posts: 8 ★
    Yeah I know. The video was to big, so I decided to post a screenshot
  • Kabam ZibiitKabam Zibiit Administrator Posts: 7,033
    Hey there, if you can share the info requested in the forum bug report template, or if you can upload the video to a site like youtube and share a link here, we may be able to look into it a bit easier.
  • DarkdanDarkdan Member Posts: 8 ★
    Hi guys,

    Some background information:

    OnePlus 9 pro
    Android 11
    Provider: Congstar
    Wifi
    Eventquest cavalier difficulty 2.2 proxima boss

    Here a link to the video:

    https://youtu.be/D3iuE66XqbU

    Kind regards,

    Dan

  • Agent_X_zzzAgent_X_zzz Member Posts: 4,498 ★★★★★
    Actually you are getting a debuff just an invisible one. This node has mystic conditioning which when you nullify a buff your nullify abilities ability accuracy is reduced by X% per every time you nullify. After the initial nullify it places an invisible debuff on you, which will continue to reapply it self after every time you purify it.

    So every kinetic charge you gain, is instantly used to purify that invisible debuff that continues to apply itself.
  • MavRCK_MavRCK_ Member Posts: 512 ★★★
    Is this what is causing Shang chi to sometimes not apply his stun on proxima? MLLLm
  • GrandOldKaiGrandOldKai Member Posts: 789 ★★★★
    MavRCK_ said:

    Is this what is causing Shang chi to sometimes not apply his stun on proxima? MLLLm

    Are you hitting into her block?
  • DarkdanDarkdan Member Posts: 8 ★
    edited September 2021
    Agent_X_zzz said:

    Actually you are getting a debuff just an invisible one. This node has mystic conditioning which when you nullify a buff your nullify abilities ability accuracy is reduced by X% per every time you nullify. After the initial nullify it places an invisible debuff on you, which will continue to reapply it self after every time you purify it.

    So every kinetic charge you gain, is instantly used to purify that invisible debuff that continues to apply itself.

    The problem regarding this is that at the time I stun, I don't purify a buff on her.



    So I don't see any connection to mystic conditioning. Because if a get that invisible buff, I should get it if I remove a buff and not while I apply a debuff on her.

    To the post regarding shang-chi:

    Proxima has -200 ability accuracy reduction for the attacker while blocking.

    Kind regards,

    Dan
  • Kabam LotoKabam Loto Moderator Posts: 1,997

    Hello @Darkdan. Thank you for sharing the video link with us. This is a piece of useful information for further investigation.

  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    two invosible interactions happening here.
    1; armour breaks act as nullify triggers
    2; nullifying with the mystic conditioon node means an invisible debuff is placed on you .

    so when you parry and apply armour break, an invisible debuff is placed which is purified using kinetic shield
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 6,469 ★★★★★
    AverageDesi said:

    two invosible interactions happening here.
    1; armour breaks act as nullify triggers
    2; nullifying with the mystic conditioon node means an invisible debuff is placed on you .

    so when you parry and apply armour break, an invisible debuff is placed which is purified using kinetic shield

    It happens even without a cosmic since when ever kinetic shield is up every hit is trying to nullify even though no buffs to try and nullify this also results into 100% nullify reduction
  • Amms90Amms90 Member Posts: 348 ★★★
    Kabam Loto said:


    Hello @Darkdan. Thank you for sharing the video link with us. This is a piece of useful information for further investigation.

    I want to add that I noticed something was up when I was fighting proxima with my dr doom. In fact, I was healing through willpower even though I had no debuffs on me. I suppose there's a bug with the game thinking proxima is applying a debuff on the attacker. Even though there's no visible debuff. Said debuff also seems to have no negative effect as I haven't noticed any effect on my attackers.
  • Amms90Amms90 Member Posts: 348 ★★★
    edited September 2021



    Here I remembered I had taken a screenshot when I noticed this. Forgot to post it though. Here it is. You can see I have no debuff on me and while I'm clearly executing my sp I'm regenning through willpower. No suicides. Just 1 point in willpower


    P.S. screenshots were taken from 2 different runs as you can see from the different hp bars. In both cases you can see doom is regenning while having no debuff on him
  • DaMunkDaMunk Member Posts: 1,883 ★★★★
    Invisible debuff??? Really? Now I've heard it all.
    Mystic conditioning shouldn't have anything to do with this.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    DaMunk said:

    Invisible debuff??? Really? Now I've heard it all.
    Mystic conditioning shouldn't have anything to do with this.

    It has everything to do with it. In the past it was a debuff then something changed about it likely due to it being buggy and a corresponding icon was never added for the effect.

    The following video in the quote shows how it was once a debuff. A patch or two after the post it was changed.
    CoatHang3r said:

    The node Mystic Conditioning (present in Act 6.2.6) appears to reduce overall offensive ability accuracy rather than the stated chance reduction of Nullify, Stagger and Fate Seal. Included is a video in which Morningstar fails to proc her bonus damage from her special 1 on multiple occasions throughout. I have also witnessed the node failing Hyperion’s Cosmic charges gain from the use of his special 3. This has been present for multiple game updates.

    Node


    Video
    https://youtu.be/02Pkj9cnvoc

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