The demise of Dormammu and mutilation of mystic defenders

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  • TheLegend27TheLegend27 Member Posts: 1,316 ★★★★★
    Solswerd wrote: »
    Maat1985 wrote: »
    Gamer wrote: »
    Dont ikow what the cancge is but it most gone be somting with dex is pasive and md May Lower pover
    What??? As usual cant understand anything you are saying.
    Please learn how to spell. And structure a sentence atleast enough so what you are saying makes sense

    Need a comma after "As usual".
    *can't
    *at least
    Starting a sentence with "And" is poor sentence structure.
    The phrase, "structure a sentence at least enough" is bad grammar.
    Probably could of used a period on your last sentence.

    could have*
  • SolswerdSolswerd Member Posts: 1,871 ★★★★
    Solswerd wrote: »
    Maat1985 wrote: »
    Gamer wrote: »
    Dont ikow what the cancge is but it most gone be somting with dex is pasive and md May Lower pover
    What??? As usual cant understand anything you are saying.
    Please learn how to spell. And structure a sentence atleast enough so what you are saying makes sense

    Need a comma after "As usual".
    *can't
    *at least
    Starting a sentence with "And" is poor sentence structure.
    The phrase, "structure a sentence at least enough" is bad grammar.
    Probably could of used a period on your last sentence.

    could have*

    Good catch! :)
  • OmniOmni Member Posts: 574 ★★★
    abn86 wrote: »
    I'm confused. MD and the dex evade have been a problem for the longest. It didn't matter until AW, even though it was problematic on spite nodes. Lots and lots of people have complained for years. Years. Why are you complaining now?

    This game while not an actual competition, replicates it for a lot of us. In competition, players are always trying to find "an edge". There's always someone(s) looking to get a leg up on the next guy - mostly because at even strength we have an even chance to lose (just my guess, tbh). So, guys find way to push right up against the edge of the box and dare Kabam to act. Then find themselves confused when things change. I've been on the reverse side of this. Loved BP teams, and it was great for finishing advanced content. Was told I had to change. Wasn't in the spirit of the game to not take damage while blocking. I had to adjust. WP was great too when it was super broken. Man, to be able to go in with a champ at 5% health and heal up just because you spotted AM or JF, so great. But alas, that changed also. It wasn't in the spirit of the game to heal non-native heal champs from nearly 0 to 100 (real quick). I had to adapt.

    Long story short, MD will change. For OP, my sincerest apologies on this change. I can see why this must suck. The flip side is, even for a little bit, you did benefit from this exploit. And I'm sorry, but this was and has always been an exploit. I don't care if some one YouTuber said do it, or people on this forum said do it. It is. Anyone who has been around this game a long time knows this. And if you didn't know that it was an exploit, then perhaps you haven't been around for a long enough time. It's no different than BW's block break bug that people campaigned to keep. And we exploited it too, lol. And then they fixed her, and everyone complained, and moved on.

    TL;DR things change all the time. Roll with the punches.

    exploit? Kabam stated it was working as intended and had no intention of changing it. That's not an exploit that's people with heavy md and mystic teams accounts devalued.

  • SuperFarzSuperFarz Member Posts: 166
    Good change. No idea why people are so mad about this? Does this warrant RDT? Hell no. Your champion is not changed? MD works perfectly fine for offense as well. If the % of MD however gets changed then compensation for MD purchase should be provided.
  • DarthPhalDarthPhal Member Posts: 1,064 ★★★★
    This looks like a bug fix to me. Should be worded as such:

    Fixed a bug where mystic dispersion was treating a single unexpired dexterity buff as expired whenever a summoner executed multiple consecutive evades.
  • vinniegainzvinniegainz Member Posts: 902 ★★★
    Long story short mystic dispersion and dexterity actually work as they should have from the beginning.

    Sorry to rain on your whining O.P. dormammu is and will be still a great defender.
  • Run477Run477 Member Posts: 1,391 ★★★
    abn86 wrote: »
    I'm confused. MD and the dex evade have been a problem for the longest. It didn't matter until AW, even though it was problematic on spite nodes. Lots and lots of people have complained for years. Years. Why are you complaining now?

    This game while not an actual competition, replicates it for a lot of us. In competition, players are always trying to find "an edge". There's always someone(s) looking to get a leg up on the next guy - mostly because at even strength we have an even chance to lose (just my guess, tbh). So, guys find way to push right up against the edge of the box and dare Kabam to act. Then find themselves confused when things change. I've been on the reverse side of this. Loved BP teams, and it was great for finishing advanced content. Was told I had to change. Wasn't in the spirit of the game to not take damage while blocking. I had to adjust. WP was great too when it was super broken. Man, to be able to go in with a champ at 5% health and heal up just because you spotted AM or JF, so great. But alas, that changed also. It wasn't in the spirit of the game to heal non-native heal champs from nearly 0 to 100 (real quick). I had to adapt.

    Long story short, MD will change. For OP, my sincerest apologies on this change. I can see why this must suck. The flip side is, even for a little bit, you did benefit from this exploit. And I'm sorry, but this was and has always been an exploit. I don't care if some one YouTuber said do it, or people on this forum said do it. It is. Anyone who has been around this game a long time knows this. And if you didn't know that it was an exploit, then perhaps you haven't been around for a long enough time. It's no different than BW's block break bug that people campaigned to keep. And we exploited it too, lol. And then they fixed her, and everyone complained, and moved on.

    TL;DR things change all the time. Roll with the punches.

    I think what you are missing is not everyone was complaining about dex/md and how it worked. Clearly the loudest people were complaining—usually when they would get destroyed by a magik in war bc they would try to fight her with their 5* winter soldier or star lord and couldn’t just walk through her (and other mystics bc of the power gain from md and baitin specials).

    I have not been complaining about md/power gain—although i did point out how it was going to be affected by the power gain nodes in the new war map. But with so many blades, it really isn’t as big of a deal at this point.

    My point now is simply that if this goes through, it deaerves massive compensation. I only maxed md bc of how it works with dexterity. As did a lot of others. You say it’s been a “problem” for years—I’m saying it wasn’t a problem and it isn’t a problem. It just makes some champs great that otherwise would be fairly worthless.
  • on5l4uh72017on5l4uh72017 Member Posts: 31
    SuperFarz wrote: »
    Good change. No idea why people are so mad about this? Does this warrant RDT? Hell no. Your champion is not changed? MD works perfectly fine for offense as well. If the % of MD however gets changed then compensation for MD purchase should be provided.

    Countless players ranked Dorm (and other mystics) based on the fact that MD, Dexterity and Dorms sig combined to make him a formidable defender. I can't speak for others, but I can tell you that until these changes I didn't regret using a generic gem on him or taking him to rank 4.

    Compare that with how he will be if these changes go live. His usefullness as a defender will be gone. His signature ability benefits from other buffs expiring. Even with MD at 0, he is still tricky to fight. However with the changes to dexterity, he will be a shadow of his former self. My generic gem, previously never regretted, would have been better used on Rhino. If these changes aren't that bad, character or class specific rank downs could be given. I didn't spend a large amount of money to complete Act 5 and Lol just so that the resources I gained as a result could be nerfed indirectly, directly or any other way.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 21,971 ★★★★★
    SuperFarz wrote: »
    Good change. No idea why people are so mad about this? Does this warrant RDT? Hell no. Your champion is not changed? MD works perfectly fine for offense as well. If the % of MD however gets changed then compensation for MD purchase should be provided.

    Countless players ranked Dorm (and other mystics) based on the fact that MD, Dexterity and Dorms sig combined to make him a formidable defender. I can't speak for others, but I can tell you that until these changes I didn't regret using a generic gem on him or taking him to rank 4.

    Compare that with how he will be if these changes go live. His usefullness as a defender will be gone. His signature ability benefits from other buffs expiring. Even with MD at 0, he is still tricky to fight. However with the changes to dexterity, he will be a shadow of his former self. My generic gem, previously never regretted, would have been better used on Rhino. If these changes aren't that bad, character or class specific rank downs could be given. I didn't spend a large amount of money to complete Act 5 and Lol just so that the resources I gained as a result could be nerfed indirectly, directly or any other way.

    Are there still buffs that expire? Yes
    Will Dorm still act the same way? Yes
    Are you overreacting? Absolutely
  • Run477Run477 Member Posts: 1,391 ★★★
    Demonzfyre wrote: »
    SuperFarz wrote: »
    Good change. No idea why people are so mad about this? Does this warrant RDT? Hell no. Your champion is not changed? MD works perfectly fine for offense as well. If the % of MD however gets changed then compensation for MD purchase should be provided.

    Countless players ranked Dorm (and other mystics) based on the fact that MD, Dexterity and Dorms sig combined to make him a formidable defender. I can't speak for others, but I can tell you that until these changes I didn't regret using a generic gem on him or taking him to rank 4.

    Compare that with how he will be if these changes go live. His usefullness as a defender will be gone. His signature ability benefits from other buffs expiring. Even with MD at 0, he is still tricky to fight. However with the changes to dexterity, he will be a shadow of his former self. My generic gem, previously never regretted, would have been better used on Rhino. If these changes aren't that bad, character or class specific rank downs could be given. I didn't spend a large amount of money to complete Act 5 and Lol just so that the resources I gained as a result could be nerfed indirectly, directly or any other way.

    Are there still buffs that expire? Yes
    Will Dorm still act the same way? Yes
    Are you overreacting? Absolutely

    He won’t still act the same way as a defender—no mystic will. This is not an overreach at all. Either you don’t understand war defense or you are just attacking people bc you find it entertaining to yourself.
  • Kabam MiikeKabam Miike Moderator Posts: 8,269
    Thank you for your feedback.

    As you know if you are part of the Beta, absolutely nothing is finalized right now. This is why we're doing the Beta Test; to gather feedback on these potential changes. What the final result of the test will be depends on what our Testers have to say about the changes themselves.

    We are not going to discuss any other ramifications until we actually know what the plan is, and we are nowhere close to that at this point. Please remember to keep all discussions surrounding the Beta in the Beta Forums.
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