Bugged Interaction : Magneto able to reduce Archangel ability accuracy

BashlordBashlord Member Posts: 223 ★★
in Bugs and Known Issues
I did Rising sun path in 7.3.3 for completion.
As the path had node which places passive disorient on well timed block so I brought AA to fight Mag as AA is AAR immune.

But everything changed when I went in the fight, as AA failed to parry magneto when I had 3 disorient passive and magentize on me.

https://youtu.be/ED7w_ssi5xo

Should this be possible or it is an bugged Interaction due to passive disorient?

Comments

  • Kabam ZibiitKabam Zibiit Administrator Posts: 7,033
    Hey there, have you seen this happen in any other fights, or only against Magneto on this path so far?
  • BashlordBashlord Member Posts: 223 ★★
    It can be replicated on the entire path
    Passive disorients are reducing Archangel ability accuracy.

    Did the fight against Drax to verify..
    https://youtu.be/2CHmHe3y8C0

    After 3-4 passive disorient, AA is failing to parry opponents.
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  • ChampioncriticChampioncritic Member Posts: 3,347 ★★★★
    Zan0 said:

    It’s been like this forever as AA is only immune to AAR from his opponents abilities and not nodes



    That is true, so the question then becomes, does the nodes abilities become the opponents abilities when the fight starts
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Zan0 said:

    It’s been like this forever as AA is only immune to AAR from his opponents abilities and not nodes

    They did fix it against thorags right?
  • ChikelChikel Member Posts: 2,108 ★★★★
    Zan0 said:

    It’s been like this forever as AA is only immune to AAR from his opponents abilities and not nodes

    No it's not. This is a bug that crops up occasionally but usually in the monthly eq or side quests. Try duelling Nick Fury or Massacre, their disorient will not reduce your ability accuracy.
    AA is fully immune to AAR no matter whether it's coming from nodes or the defender's abilities since like someone already said: nodes are counted as the defender's abilities
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Chikel said:

    Zan0 said:

    It’s been like this forever as AA is only immune to AAR from his opponents abilities and not nodes

    No it's not. This is a bug that crops up occasionally but usually in the monthly eq or side quests. Try duelling Nick Fury or Massacre, their disorient will not reduce your ability accuracy.
    AA is fully immune to AAR no matter whether it's coming from nodes or the defender's abilities since like someone already said: nodes are counted as the defender's abilities
    What Zan0 means is that as how the game works rn AA is only immune to base kits and not nodal AAR
  • ChikelChikel Member Posts: 2,108 ★★★★
    edited October 2021
    AverageDesi said:

    Chikel said:

    Zan0 said:

    It’s been like this forever as AA is only immune to AAR from his opponents abilities and not nodes

    No it's not. This is a bug that crops up occasionally but usually in the monthly eq or side quests. Try duelling Nick Fury or Massacre, their disorient will not reduce your ability accuracy.
    AA is fully immune to AAR no matter whether it's coming from nodes or the defender's abilities since like someone already said: nodes are counted as the defender's abilities
    What Zan0 means is that as how the game works rn AA is only immune to base kits and not nodal AAR
    He is immune to node AAR. The thing with disorient and Thor Ragnarok's shock is a bug that crops up every second month
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  • ChikelChikel Member Posts: 2,108 ★★★★
    Zan0 said:

    Chikel said:

    AverageDesi said:

    Chikel said:

    Zan0 said:

    It’s been like this forever as AA is only immune to AAR from his opponents abilities and not nodes

    No it's not. This is a bug that crops up occasionally but usually in the monthly eq or side quests. Try duelling Nick Fury or Massacre, their disorient will not reduce your ability accuracy.
    AA is fully immune to AAR no matter whether it's coming from nodes or the defender's abilities since like someone already said: nodes are counted as the defender's abilities
    What Zan0 means is that as how the game works rn AA is only immune to base kits and not nodal AAR
    He is immune to node AAR. The thing with disorient and Thor Ragnarok's shock is a bug that crops up every second month
    It’s never worked with the nodes that lower your AA even though it technically should.
    Which nodes are those? I've had him for more than a year now and I've never had problems with nodes except when this bug crops up. I used him against 6.2.5 Mordor with my entire team dead and my parry never failed once
  • BashlordBashlord Member Posts: 223 ★★
    Chikel said:

    Zan0 said:

    Chikel said:

    AverageDesi said:

    Chikel said:

    Zan0 said:

    It’s been like this forever as AA is only immune to AAR from his opponents abilities and not nodes

    No it's not. This is a bug that crops up occasionally but usually in the monthly eq or side quests. Try duelling Nick Fury or Massacre, their disorient will not reduce your ability accuracy.
    AA is fully immune to AAR no matter whether it's coming from nodes or the defender's abilities since like someone already said: nodes are counted as the defender's abilities
    What Zan0 means is that as how the game works rn AA is only immune to base kits and not nodal AAR
    He is immune to node AAR. The thing with disorient and Thor Ragnarok's shock is a bug that crops up every second month
    It’s never worked with the nodes that lower your AA even though it technically should.
    Which nodes are those? I've had him for more than a year now and I've never had problems with nodes except when this bug crops up. I used him against 6.2.5 Mordor with my entire team dead and my parry never failed once
    AA is bugged when passive disorient are in place.

    Active disorient like from Fury Sp1 or Masacre sp1 do not reduce his ability accuracy.
  • ChikelChikel Member Posts: 2,108 ★★★★
    Bashlord said:

    Chikel said:

    Zan0 said:

    Chikel said:

    AverageDesi said:

    Chikel said:

    Zan0 said:

    It’s been like this forever as AA is only immune to AAR from his opponents abilities and not nodes

    No it's not. This is a bug that crops up occasionally but usually in the monthly eq or side quests. Try duelling Nick Fury or Massacre, their disorient will not reduce your ability accuracy.
    AA is fully immune to AAR no matter whether it's coming from nodes or the defender's abilities since like someone already said: nodes are counted as the defender's abilities
    What Zan0 means is that as how the game works rn AA is only immune to base kits and not nodal AAR
    He is immune to node AAR. The thing with disorient and Thor Ragnarok's shock is a bug that crops up every second month
    It’s never worked with the nodes that lower your AA even though it technically should.
    Which nodes are those? I've had him for more than a year now and I've never had problems with nodes except when this bug crops up. I used him against 6.2.5 Mordor with my entire team dead and my parry never failed once
    AA is bugged when passive disorient are in place.

    Active disorient like from Fury Sp1 or Masacre sp1 do not reduce his ability accuracy.
    The bug also works for disorient debuffs. https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/268670/disorient-reduces-archangels-ability-accuracy#latest
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★


    @Kabam Zibiit @Chikel

    Archangels ability being reduced by mordo strength in numbers. 2 champs were dead meaning 25 %AAR
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Chikel said:

    Zan0 said:

    Chikel said:

    AverageDesi said:

    Chikel said:

    Zan0 said:

    It’s been like this forever as AA is only immune to AAR from his opponents abilities and not nodes

    No it's not. This is a bug that crops up occasionally but usually in the monthly eq or side quests. Try duelling Nick Fury or Massacre, their disorient will not reduce your ability accuracy.
    AA is fully immune to AAR no matter whether it's coming from nodes or the defender's abilities since like someone already said: nodes are counted as the defender's abilities
    What Zan0 means is that as how the game works rn AA is only immune to base kits and not nodal AAR
    He is immune to node AAR. The thing with disorient and Thor Ragnarok's shock is a bug that crops up every second month
    It’s never worked with the nodes that lower your AA even though it technically should.
    Which nodes are those? I've had him for more than a year now and I've never had problems with nodes except when this bug crops up. I used him against 6.2.5 Mordor with my entire team dead and my parry never failed once
    Mordo only had 50% AAR. So possible you got incredibly lucky
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,441 ★★★★★
    January 19 and bug still up
  • BashlordBashlord Member Posts: 223 ★★
    @Kabam Miike any update on this.
    This is ongoing from the introduction of passive disorient node addition to the game
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  • MaratoxMaratox Member Posts: 1,627 ★★★★★
    Fredhorst23 said:

    Is it true that node abilities count as champ abilities? I get that aar affects nodes, but it also affects attacker nodes like in aq. So it kind of handles nodes as a separate third party. Also, if it specifically says "opponents abilities" isn't the spirit of that meant to mean not nodes? Otherwise it'd say just flat out immune to all aar like other champs who have that (oml, mysterio etc). Not trying to be contentious, just trying to figure out why they'd be stated differently if they aren't supposed to be different.

    Nodes are considered opponent abilities under any and all circumstances. Doesn’t matter if the node benefits the attacker or defender, AAR will still impact it because it’s a defender ability
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Fredhorst23 said:

    Is it true that node abilities count as champ abilities? I get that aar affects nodes, but it also affects attacker nodes like in aq. So it kind of handles nodes as a separate third party. Also, if it specifically says "opponents abilities" isn't the spirit of that meant to mean not nodes? Otherwise it'd say just flat out immune to all aar like other champs who have that (oml, mysterio etc). Not trying to be contentious, just trying to figure out why they'd be stated differently if they aren't supposed to be different.


    This is the description of Concussion from Quakes kit. But we all know she reduces more than just her opponents base ability alone
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Please fix. Just died in aw
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    It would be wonderful if archangel was finally fixed and we could take the alliance War fights he should be able to take easily
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    @Kabam Zibiit
  • BashlordBashlord Member Posts: 223 ★★
    Don't think they are even acknowledging this to work on it.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Please for the love of everything good in the universe acknowledge that Archangel is bugged and can have his ability accuracy reduced by Disorient and Glancing. Add this to the tracker thingy
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