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The point from OP is that every character is getting recycled with a few changes and to counter those changes a new champion is added in who is countered by another new champion and so on.

Solution is to ignore it, just like their browser mode thing

Except, this isn't even poker. It's a color matching game. No pairs, no full houses, no equal number of cards in a suit. The objectives with the rewards were easy to get and allows players to opt out from the rest which was nice. Silver lining I suppose.

For the sweaty-thumbed die hards, they can get their grind fix too. A little something for everyone!

Except the grind is the point.

No one wants to play this garbage that much.

even with bronco tokens, it still is grindy. Just because you got lucky getting more Metals, Waters, and Woods does not mean it’s less grindy

I agree that I miss old style content (necro, epoch, SOP). Coliseum to me is a huge miss. It's recycling the SOP/epoc fights in a less enjoyable way (again, for my game playing experience….results may vary). I miss a new fight where it was fun to try to solo. And if I couldn't, eh…a revive or two would take care of it. But just taking down health bar after health bar is only here to make players grind and engage more.

Like Kabam said "we spent all this time creating the fight, but people are done with it in 10 minutes. How can we drive engagement numbers using the same fight? MAKE THEM DO IT 80 TIMES!!!!" Feels lazy. Coliseum will need to implement a reward structure that incentivizes taking down as many bars as possible in a single run for it to be successful (whether its milestones, and overall leaderboard, or both). Grinding just to grind is boring AF. There is no incentive to learn or master the fight.

In terms of these side events - I think it's even worse. I'm hoping this is the last we see of these "enter this separate browser" type of side events. Vast majority of players seem to dislike them, and they are so far outside of the core game mechanics that I have no desire to waste my time doing these grind fests. I think about how much time and effort goes into creating these modes and I'm baffled that they don't use there time coming up with (for example) new Carina's challenges. I don't have a problem with recycling content if it is fun, challenging and engaging. Even if the challenges are not my cup of tea (e.g., Fintech's challenges are currently the only content not complete on my account, and probably never will be).

The poker game? It's okay. I do not like the scoring this time around (just stick with poker hands) and it is far too grindy for zero upside. I got about half way through the milestones, opened the red tickets, and said "well this is a waste of my time". The milestones should have been greater red envelopes, even if there were less overall.

I have stopped doing more than VT in BGs as well. Why? Because I generally stopped spending when the game became less fun, which caused my roster to fall behind VERY quickly over the last 6-12 months.

I want the game to be fun and engaging, not grindy for the sake of pushing engagement numbers. There was a time when we all waited for new content to drop. Now I don't really look forward to new content because it's not engaging. Even the story content is just something to blast through in a day. Though I will say….the story content bosses remain goated. I always find them fun - so big props to the designers.

Cold take: there isnt enough in the game for valiants to justify creating content not for them so this take is stupid.

Players not at the top of the game have heaps and heaps of content to do. They dont need more.

Im not even at what I consider to be the top of the game and if I want to play mcoc on any given day I have two realistic options: battlegrounds or arena.

Battlegrounds is cheeks, this new season made it even worse AND it's currently off-season so theres no point in playing that.

Arena is therefore currently the only thing to do but you can outgrind them in a couple hours so there isnt alot there either.

There's nothing