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Sure, but if you're using "think of the new player" and "timers" for arguments, why are Arc Overload nodes and most other node interactions acceptable?

And, per your logic, Karolina's swapping sunlight would also throw off new players yet Kabam is fine releasing complicated champions in general.

I wouldn't even see this as an issue if they would just be honest that they want to tune her down offensively. Instead they try to perform mental gymnastics as to why this isn't hurting her offensively, when it CLEARLY is. That's what I'm frustrated about. Why can't they just be honest? Or are the balance team truly so out of touch with the game that they don't get how an evade shutdown ability is offensively huge? Either way is not good.

Sincerely: the dumbass who looks at red and yellow numbers and ignores the rest of the kit

As is the case 9/10 times with Kabam drama, the biggest issue is with communication / delivery. They write a paragraph explaining how great she is offensively but that they won't be changing her offensively. Then in the next paragraph they say they are removing an effect that I would say is 50/50 offensive and defensive and try to convince us that it won't effect her offensively.

I would have no problem if they just said, she's a 10/10 offensively so we feel comfortable nerfing one tiny offensive aspect to make her a 9.5/10 offensively. Them trying to convince us it will have no effect is far more frustrating than just saying they are nerfing her a tiny bit.

And all that is on top of them (for some unexplainable reason) just gaslighting us into thinking they can't remove it on defense only. I seriously don't even mind the actual change they plan to make. JUST BE STRAIGHT FOWARD AND HONEST WITH YOUR COMMUNICATION!!!

I’m really starting to wonder who’s making all these terrible decisions this year what the hell happened to the 2023-2024 design team… anyways yeah this change does absolutely nothing on defense and only makes her worse on attack, the usual counters like Cull Bullseye Okoye and Red Guardian still nuke her and anything that doesn’t straight up shut down that evade or have tranquilize either times out or takes a f**k ton of damage. The fumble still puts her way above that 3.5/5 if they truly wanted to lower her defensive potential then that’s what should’ve been removed not the ensnare, now there’s a decent chunk of matchups she can no longer do on attacks because of this bs.

To anyone who pulled Karolina, get ready to see that glancing be nerfed to the ground too, don’t r4 until the announcement is made.

Don't want rdt. R4 sig 160 here.

For the first time in my life I actually agree with this guy lol this change does absolutely nothing on defense and only makes her worse on attack, the usual counters like Cull Bullseye Okoye and Red Guardian still nuke her and anything that doesn’t straight up shut down that evade or have tranquilize either times out or takes a **** ton of damage. The fumble still puts her way above that 3.5/5 if they truly wanted to lower her defensive potential then that’s what should’ve been removed not the ensnare, now there’s a decent chunk of matchups she can no longer do

I get what you're saying.

But I don't think that the fact Kabam chose to not tune down their top defenders means that they shouldn't tune down defenders who were better than expected.

We don't want all the defenders to be 5/5, any more than we actually want them all to be 2/5, because that would be boring.

So I have no problem with them making her easier on defence.

I totally agree that only making the change happen on defence would be a far better option, though. Reducing her offensive value under the guise of reducing her defensive value is just disingenuous.

Prowler, but only if you have at least 140 signature stones to invest in him.

Iron Man, Iron Heart, Punisher and Arcade also benefit from it.