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Could care less since its a p2w champ

P2W the 7* version and after sometime all the Eidols will go for the base crystal pool

By the time hes in the basic pool , his kit will be outdated and we'll get several techs that do what he does better.

Eidols were a complete miss imo since f2p cant get them at all.

You do realize that there are 45 essence available without spending anything, and 8 of them don't even require any form of competitive play at all.

To say that f2p players can not get them at all is simply not true.

Are you confused?
The other 4 either cost money, ranking at the top of BG's or placing first in arena.
Hardly obtainable by most FTP players.

I did not say they were easy for ftp. The person I replied to said ftp could not get them at all, meaning it was not even possible.

But I've seen people who held onto the drops and started with the 7.5k points also get the compensation

Which shouldn't have happened

Effectively giving them a $1875 head start on ranked rewards

When $100 USD is 400 points

Unless you are a whale I don't see how it effects us.


Thebbuffer window was 15k at the start.
285k points needed out of 300k.

Now after comp.
10k 10k 7.5k
The buffer window has shifted to 42.5k.
Anyone who is not spending and is crying should consider a deep stare into a mirror.

I am spending and was aiming for top 500 but being at a $1875 disadvantage from the get go is crazy

Then, only in your case, I agree 100%. it' is unfair.

Thanks 😂 I appreciate it

Yeah, I'm only mocking us ftp peasants.
Let's say me as a f2p started with 7.5k advantage.
I'm making sure to grab every single point.
But a spender missed 7.5k they have to cover $1800 worth of points. It's just mad.

(I'm only mocking us f2ps, not the spenders who had plans to go for something higher)

I let Karate Mike AKA (THE GOAT) know about the extra points back on July 9th. he then made the post on July 11th about comp going out to affected players but it seems like it went to the wrong people including the people who already had the advantage

I love the team over at kabam and im sure they will resolve it. But would love clarification

MCoC solution 101.
Its too much work to weed out the people who got something from the ones who didn't.
Solution? Give it to everybody.
Taking points away could screw up their milestones reached and so on and blablabla

I didn't have anything to do with this one. But from my perspective, if I know someone is cheating, I'm going to ban them as soon as I can. If it benefits someone then lucky them.

The only exception is I don't extend this courtesy to myself, since I know most of the time players don't get it. So if someone mods against me in Battlegrounds, I wait until I take the L and then I ban them. I also wonder wtf they were thinking since I have the Kabam banner on my profile picture now but I guess that's another story.

In my perspective this is actually a much bigger issue than it is present, specially since this is during the Brawler qualification.

Here are some points to consider -

In a Perfect Setting - All BG modder get ban instantly and the opponent get their winning point.

In Reality Setting:- BG modder win the match, opponents lost their point, BG modder get ban when a ban wave get done, but opponent still lost point.

Now of course we all want BG modders to be ban instantly and we are players doesn't get affected by their action, however in realise we all lost points and ranking to modders.

Let me be clear, this have nothing to do with Lagacy himself, it is more about the circumstances that create an unfair advantage against other fellow Summoners that are competitive for a place in the Brawler.

Circumstance 1:- Lagacy playing BG, his friends are watching (Fintech and Mike who are Kabam employees), they spotted a modder and banned them instantly, which mean Lagacy did not lost the match and point, and also gain point and ranking. Lagacy did nothing wrong, and in a perfect setting this is what we all would like to be in.

Circumstance 2:- Any other Summoners (who may not be in the social circle with Kabam staffs) and have no one from Kabam watching them play, who also competing for a place in the Brawler, match up again a modder, they lost the match, lost point, lost ranking, The modder got pick up in a week time and got ban, but the player have already lost their points and ranking.

We can clearly see it is an unfair playing field.

Like you have said @Kabam Crashed , when you play against a modder, even those you have the power to band them instantly, you choice not to, which I highly repeat. While what happen here, I believe everyone had the right (and ethical) reason for their action, under the current circumstances and had created an unethical situation, and I think would need to be review.

So is the solution to not ban the modder for everyone until the match is over?

Also, this is a very big one off, and not a norm that occurs.

Also, if they had not banned the cheater, they would subsequently play against other 'normal' players and make them lose points too. It's a win win anyway you look at it

Hi @AverageDesi ,

Actually under this circumstance, yes, the what we think is the wrong action would actually lead to the right outcome.

It should be done like what @Kabam Crashed does, let the match finish, and then band the modder right after, Lagacy might still win the match, he might lost, but whatever happened he would of gonna through the exactly motion like other fellow competitors, which create a fair playing field and one can day that certain players have advantage over the competition because who they know.

No. I suffered so everyone should suffer is a very destructive way of thinking.

I've faced a lot of modders and not once have it thought, "Man, if Kabam ever had the opportunity to ban the opponent mid match, they shouldn't ,and just let the player suffer".

Unfair implies intent. Kabam did not design a system where normal players have to fight modders and those who stream do not. This is a one off that happened by accident. If ever you decide to stream and are intersting enough to get a Kabam employee to watch you, they would do the same for you.

It's just a convenient coincidence. Not a manufactured inequality.

And you're pretending like Lagacy has never had to lose to a modder. That's not true.

Hi @AverageDesi ,

I think you might take my discussion out of contexts, and with most context make thing relevant.

I face modders before in BGs, it doesn't mean I wish everyone else face modders too, I not a "all must suffer, because I suffer too" king of guy 🤣, you are right that is very destructive.

However what I'm saying understands these 2 season where top players are competing for an extremely small amount a space in the Brawl with a high winning prices. Kabam have to be extra consistent in creating an even playing field.

I'm not sure which country you are in so not sure if you country have this policy. But where I'm, everything you applied for a job they always ask if you know anybody that can influence the decision of your getting the role.

I didn't say any of this was intentionally, but those collection of "convenient coincidence" created a circumstance where inequality competition could happen, and whoever take those action, did not take enough careful consideration of what it would lead to.

I'm sure Lagacy have faced many modders and so is many other top end players, but right now we are ending up with a circumstance that Lagacy is the ONLY player that got a modder ban before the match ended.

I like Lagacy very much, think he is a nice guy, he work hard on his account and skill to get there, I feel sorry him that other people action is is tainted his journey for the play in the Brawler.