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ACT 8 CRUCIBLE COUNTERS List
**8.1.1**
**STRYFE** - prowler and ironheart
**RED SKULL** -BWCV, Minoru?
**The Hood** - Any bleed immune
**8.1.2**
**She Hulk**- Cheelith
**War Machine**- Kingpin
**BPCW**-serpent, hercules
**8.1.3**
**Mr.Sinister**- any tech champion
**DIablo**- doom (slow option), BWDO, Scorpion(MVP)
**psycho man**- knull (true focus mediums), serpent, odin
**8.1.4**
**Ebony**- any champ with hard dmg on heavy (doom, domino, jack, colossus)
**Corvus**- Doom, SHathra, white tiger
**Proxima**- warlock, human torch, colossus (not ice man cuz he will heal her)
**8.1.5**
**Daredevil HK**- Storm, storm x, bishop
**Hercules**-jack, g99 guardian (non crit champs basically bypass the node)
**Wasp**-titania, Og spiderman, spider ham, nick fury, silver sable, cheeilith
**8.1.6**
**Scytalis**- apoc, storm og \& pyramid x, bishop
# **8.2**
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### **8.2.1**
**Vision OG-** spiral(best counter), odin, Hercules, CGR
**Black Panther OG-** vision(aarkus), hyperion,storm og
**Sigil Witch-** HT, Overseer, titania
8.2.2
Elektra-any incinerate champ, bishop
DOmino- shuri, silver sable
DPX-sentinel, nimrod
8.2.3
Joe fixit-cheeilith, nick fury, zemo, Jabari (have purify to purify weakness), OG black panther, black cat
Nimrod- BWCV,tigra
Ronan- Hercules
8.2.4
morningstar- warlock, ice man
scorpion- valk(mvp), parry stun for other champs mostly
massacre- any bleed immune champ, sentinel zola (not sure just the ones who came up in mind first)
8.2.5
sersi-longshot, shathra kushala, mordo
kitty-nimrod, jack, ironheart
peni-venom and galan, vox, hulkling
8.2.6
BAHAMET- cheeilith, kingpin, valk mvp( any other works too)
# **8.3**
8.3.1
vulture- hulkling venom, venompool terrax galan
gorr- shathra, Morningstar, bwcv longshot
Omega sent- galan hulkling, terrax
8.3.2
mephisto- human torch, sunspot
attuma- shuri, stryfe
dormammu- any science champ, spider ham mvp
8.3.3
knull-abs man (mvp), doom,
anti venom- silver sable, cheeilith, ironheart, zemo, aarkus, bwdo
venompool-any champ works, wait out the stun immune phase then parry hit
8.3.4
wong- normal wong fight, any science champ/ counter works
misty knight- diablo, bishop, sunspot, hit monkey morbius
thing- silver sable, Valkyrie, cross bones
8.3.5
quicksilver-kate bishop, monkey
bishop-idoom, sentinel? (sp1 spam maybe)
havok- colossus(makes it just a simple fight with havok)
8.3.6
CERASTES- Any cosmic with a number of buffs and a striker (prerably 6*)
# **8.4**
8.4.1
Howard the duck- serpent ironheart, hyperion, gorr
chavez- dont take a buff immune champ and you'd its just a normal Chavez fight with icarus type of node
aegon- bishop, og storm, storm x
8.4.2
Ikaris- tigra (would be fun interaction here), Morningstar shathra,
prof x- spiral(mvp), prof x
black cat- ebony maw (cheese)
8.4.3
valk- any champ, just match with turn the tide special
sasquatch- count nefaria, titania spider ham, overseer (any champ works tbh)
emma frost- juggernaut, scorpion fantman
8.4.4
spot- any works, pretty much normal spot fight
omega red-Nimmo, warlock omega sent, viv vision. shuri
terrax-serpent shathra, abs man
8.4.5
jessica-cheeilith
spidey supreme- human torch, titania, ham, domino
captain falcon- venom, terrax
8.4.6
GLYKHAN- storm og, storm pyramid x, magneto, cyclops
made this sheet a few days ago
pls only suggest champs that are not mentioned for the bosses on the list and they worked well if possible keep it in a format like
Boss name - spot(8.4.4)
Champion - (champion you used and if there's a specific rotation that works for the boss)
LETS NOT FLOOD THIS WITH UNNECCESSARY STUFF AND HELP OUT OTHERS
**STRYFE** - prowler and ironheart
**RED SKULL** -BWCV, Minoru?
**The Hood** - Any bleed immune
**8.1.2**
**She Hulk**- Cheelith
**War Machine**- Kingpin
**BPCW**-serpent, hercules
**8.1.3**
**Mr.Sinister**- any tech champion
**DIablo**- doom (slow option), BWDO, Scorpion(MVP)
**psycho man**- knull (true focus mediums), serpent, odin
**8.1.4**
**Ebony**- any champ with hard dmg on heavy (doom, domino, jack, colossus)
**Corvus**- Doom, SHathra, white tiger
**Proxima**- warlock, human torch, colossus (not ice man cuz he will heal her)
**8.1.5**
**Daredevil HK**- Storm, storm x, bishop
**Hercules**-jack, g99 guardian (non crit champs basically bypass the node)
**Wasp**-titania, Og spiderman, spider ham, nick fury, silver sable, cheeilith
**8.1.6**
**Scytalis**- apoc, storm og \& pyramid x, bishop
# **8.2**
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### **8.2.1**
**Vision OG-** spiral(best counter), odin, Hercules, CGR
**Black Panther OG-** vision(aarkus), hyperion,storm og
**Sigil Witch-** HT, Overseer, titania
8.2.2
Elektra-any incinerate champ, bishop
DOmino- shuri, silver sable
DPX-sentinel, nimrod
8.2.3
Joe fixit-cheeilith, nick fury, zemo, Jabari (have purify to purify weakness), OG black panther, black cat
Nimrod- BWCV,tigra
Ronan- Hercules
8.2.4
morningstar- warlock, ice man
scorpion- valk(mvp), parry stun for other champs mostly
massacre- any bleed immune champ, sentinel zola (not sure just the ones who came up in mind first)
8.2.5
sersi-longshot, shathra kushala, mordo
kitty-nimrod, jack, ironheart
peni-venom and galan, vox, hulkling
8.2.6
BAHAMET- cheeilith, kingpin, valk mvp( any other works too)
# **8.3**
8.3.1
vulture- hulkling venom, venompool terrax galan
gorr- shathra, Morningstar, bwcv longshot
Omega sent- galan hulkling, terrax
8.3.2
mephisto- human torch, sunspot
attuma- shuri, stryfe
dormammu- any science champ, spider ham mvp
8.3.3
knull-abs man (mvp), doom,
anti venom- silver sable, cheeilith, ironheart, zemo, aarkus, bwdo
venompool-any champ works, wait out the stun immune phase then parry hit
8.3.4
wong- normal wong fight, any science champ/ counter works
misty knight- diablo, bishop, sunspot, hit monkey morbius
thing- silver sable, Valkyrie, cross bones
8.3.5
quicksilver-kate bishop, monkey
bishop-idoom, sentinel? (sp1 spam maybe)
havok- colossus(makes it just a simple fight with havok)
8.3.6
CERASTES- Any cosmic with a number of buffs and a striker (prerably 6*)
# **8.4**
8.4.1
Howard the duck- serpent ironheart, hyperion, gorr
chavez- dont take a buff immune champ and you'd its just a normal Chavez fight with icarus type of node
aegon- bishop, og storm, storm x
8.4.2
Ikaris- tigra (would be fun interaction here), Morningstar shathra,
prof x- spiral(mvp), prof x
black cat- ebony maw (cheese)
8.4.3
valk- any champ, just match with turn the tide special
sasquatch- count nefaria, titania spider ham, overseer (any champ works tbh)
emma frost- juggernaut, scorpion fantman
8.4.4
spot- any works, pretty much normal spot fight
omega red-Nimmo, warlock omega sent, viv vision. shuri
terrax-serpent shathra, abs man
8.4.5
jessica-cheeilith
spidey supreme- human torch, titania, ham, domino
captain falcon- venom, terrax
8.4.6
GLYKHAN- storm og, storm pyramid x, magneto, cyclops
made this sheet a few days ago
pls only suggest champs that are not mentioned for the bosses on the list and they worked well if possible keep it in a format like
Boss name - spot(8.4.4)
Champion - (champion you used and if there's a specific rotation that works for the boss)
LETS NOT FLOOD THIS WITH UNNECCESSARY STUFF AND HELP OUT OTHERS

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Re: BGS are not enjoyable
This meta is hot garbage... but the garbage bags are full of excrement... and it's the middle of July on a +40C day.... and the bags are on black asphalt.... in a glass box... with the bottom lined with foil
In summary, I'm not enjoying this
In summary, I'm not enjoying this

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Re: Has anyone watched Fantastic Four: First Steps yet?
The CGI on the baby at times looked a bit odd, yeah. But on the whole, the CGI for everything else, all the space scenes, powers, everything, was really good. A few baby scenes with odd CGI doesn’t diminish the overall CGI quality of it for me, it was well done overall.I’ve just seen it a few hours ago.
Without going into spoilers, I thought it was very well done. The performances were outstanding and I enjoyed the chemistry between the actors. Standout performances for me were Reed and Torch.
Initially I doubted Pedro but he absolutely delivered for me. He’s got Reed down pat with being a tortured soul and brilliant mind. Joseph Quinn I honestly was not sold on - even in the trailers. But my gosh I adored his take on torch. He had the perfect balance between being witty and intelligent, but also had a lot of heart to him. All the other actors did a phenomenal job.
I liked what the focus of the film was and how the plot was built around it. The CGI was well done, you begin to care about these characters you’ve never seen before.
There are minor things I didn’t like, like at times it felt quite fast-paced. This is not typically an issue for me, but I felt like being less than 2 hours, they could have given us an extra 20-30 minutes and spread it out a little, potentially give us a little more on the tail end as it wrapped up. The ending was something I actually wasn’t entirely expecting, and even though I would’ve preferred the ending to be different, I still thought it was well done. And if they HAD to go that route, it’s pretty much exactly how I’d want it to play out.
Overall very enjoyable. Personally I’m giving it an 8.5/10. Similar to thunderbolts, it felt pretty fresh, not just as we are introduced to a new group, but mainly because it feels like it has a vision, and the film is constructed around a central idea/theme that is carried throughout the movie.
I have to disagree somewhat about the CGI. I thought the CGI on the baby was pretty bad. I didn’t understand why they couldn’t use a real baby for most of the scenes. Aside from that, the movie was really good.
Re: Doom Cycle Event - Tips for FTP
This entire game mode is the least intuitive thing I've ever seen. It's so bad.
And each day one of my 3 entries is used on a chapter I *just* miss competing wave 8, so only 2 of my 3 entries are even yielding me real progress.
And each day one of my 3 entries is used on a chapter I *just* miss competing wave 8, so only 2 of my 3 entries are even yielding me real progress.
Re: Now that we know Maker and Evolutionary are Mid, are you still saving for the next Titan?
Nico alone is worth saving my shards for. I think people are way too low on high evo when he barely just came out. Karolina looks fun and like a champ I would want to use and rank up. Maker seems like a miss for me, I don’t enjoy mine champs personally. So that’s 3/4 champs coming in to the titan so far that I would rank and use consistently. I also have Jean and spider-woman now, so there is zero reason for me to open more titans
Re: I feel like i’m the only person not upset about “Doom Cycle”
As a 1 off, yeah fine, but I seriously hope Kabam doesn’t make this sort of content a frequent thing.
The year started off great with the EPOCH of pain, but has gone rapidly downhill with MCOC poker/Arcade, a WoF flop, and greed filled spending events almost every month.
The year started off great with the EPOCH of pain, but has gone rapidly downhill with MCOC poker/Arcade, a WoF flop, and greed filled spending events almost every month.

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Re: breakdown of doom cycle and why this type of gameplay needs to go away forever.
Yeah sure buddy, you're on an island and you decided to go on a mobile game forum to argue with people instead of doing something else. This is not the flex you think it is buddy.It’s not that deep,..it’s just logical and common sense,..you obviously have none.man, your responses are full of nothing but deflection and condescension, you just never fail to completely miss the actual point!You’re right,..i am proud of not participating in what i do not like and enjoy, and i do find it wise in disengaging in this game mode for that reason.okay, you proudly missed the point, downplayed the problem, and acted like disengaging makes you wise, when in reality, it just makes you irrelevant to the discussion. here’s why:“We can’t ignore it”?.This much outrage on simply a gamemode that you can easily ignore is crazy,you completely missed the point or chose to ignore it. it’s not just ‘something you can easily ignore’ — they purposely stuffed it with great rewards so we can’t ignore it. that’s the issue. it’s low-effort, off-brand content shoved into the game with insane rewards to force engagement, not because it’s fun or good.
It also gives good rewards for minimal effort so won't advice to ignore.
acting like that’s fine is how we keep getting more of this lazy design.
I have since last Wednesday when it was released,..did one run of it for 15-20 minutes and I haven’t been back since,.,and I won’t for the remaining tine it’s available.
I don’t think the rewards make it worth playing the mode,.,(it’s that bad),.,so i don’t.
…see?,.., it’s easy.
i’m pointing out that kabam jammed valuable, top-tier rewards into garbage content specifically to force players — especially competitive ones — into engaging with it, whether they like it or not. It’s not about skipping it, it’s about how this tactic degrades the game design and sets a horrible precedent.
kabam’s entire goal with this kind of content is to test how little effort they can put in and still get engagement by attaching bait-tier rewards. players like you ignoring it does nothing if thousands more cave and buy arcade tickets.
(Why would i lessen myself by participating in this if that’s my feeling towards it)?
Meanwhile, if you’re the “competitive type”..you should accept that if you are going to 100% every piece of content then some of it you may find wont always appeal to you.
Instead you are crying about having to participate in something that you choose to do because of a bar you have set yourself,..pretty sad.
And nobody is irrelevant in this game no matter if you’re competitive, semi competitive or simply casual as i’m pretty sure this certain game mode is available to all kinds of summoners.
It is also their choice to disregard it or not,..but it’s kind of pathetic when people complain while grinding a mode that they themselves choose to take part in 😅.
you don’t get to dismiss legit criticism from players who did/are engaging with it just because they care enough to clear content and challenges to get good rewards. nobody’s crying, we’re pointing out lazy design and a clear monetization shift. and calling it “sad” to expect better from the game is just weak. you're not above the conversation just because you tapped out early. you're outside of it. huge difference.
you’re proudly sitting out a mode you say you dislike, acting like that’s some deep, enlightened take when all you’ve really done is remove yourself from the conversation entirely!
If you don’t like it..:don’t play it.
If you choose to play it (sure you can have constructive criticism,..but you have to remember that it is ultimately your choice to participate).
You’ve just gone off on a endless rant about it and i was very happy to give my initial feedback on it and then leave it be.
I’m on an island in the sun and you’re miserable playing this s***,..seems pretty dumb to me.
Now if you excuse me i’m going back to my island.
Have fun playing game modes you don’t enjoy 😜