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So this is what’s essentially replaced the Summoner Appreciation events? This really feels poorly designed as a ‘community event.

This isn't replacing the "Summoner Appreciation Events."

Curious more clarity for Realm event coming? soon?

If you engage with the game in all areas throughout the next two months, you'll gain points in the event.
The more players that do this, the higher the overall Milestone will get, granting everyone more rewards throughout the event.

You can reach the top milestone without spending money on the event.
There are some milestones linked to in-person announcements, etc, at Summoners Fest in November...

Is there any additional clarity you're looking for me to share?

So all players have access to the valiant EQ this month? How does a player reach the top milestone without that?

I believe Paragon players still have access to Valiant EQ.

The top milestones consist of Tier 7 Basic.
If you aren't Paragon yet, Tier 7 Basic shouldn't be naturally obtainable.

So you are missing my point. All of the previous realm events let everyone contribute as much as they could/wanted to. Yes it is harder for lower accounts but they still could. A throne breaker player could have opened enough banquet crystals to get all of the rewards. A cavalier player could grind battlegrounds. This realm event restricts what players can get. Your argument is the top rewards are too good to give to lower accounts. What would they do with one Tier 7?

If Realm events are supposed to unite the community with a single goal, this fails because by your own admission the entire community can’t achieve the final goal.

There are 300,000 total earnable points, so yes you can reach the top milestone, even if you miss a few.

Why do you make everything p2w?

I wouldn't call it pay to win. Sure, spending could be a tie breaker for points, but if you don't do everything, especially Raids, no amount of spending is going to catch you up.

Well, technically speaking $24,000 USD might catch you up. But even among the mega whales I suspect the number of people who will actually do that is very close to zero.

Since about a third of the realm points are in Raids, and my alliance doesn't do raids (much less Nightmare Raids which seems to be required to cap out the milestones) I'm basically out of it. But the event is still giving me a ton of rewards for basically just playing the game more or less as I normally do, so I can't be too upset. I find it ... odd that there's so much emphasis on Raids given their presumptive optional nature - and the fact they are tied to alliances, meaning individual players cannot simply choose to do them just for the event - but I suppose Kabam has its reasons there.

There are ranked rewards, which will be unobtainable unless you pay
I would call that pay to win

They are unobtainable even if you do pay, unless you also basically do everything. Normally the term pay to win refers to games where either whomever pays the most wins, or spending offers an overwhelming advantage compared to everything else. But that's not really true here, except in an essentially unrealistic extreme. Spending offers an advantage between two players who otherwise are tied in all other respects, but having an advantage between two competitors who otherwise do exactly the same things equally well is not pay to win, that is literally all competitions.

I'm sorry but if there's NO way you can place #1 without having to spend, it's called a PAY TO WIN event.

In whatever circles you roam, I believe you. Including the fact you probably shout it out loud while you're typing it.

I come from the ancient generation of game players that did not just make up new meanings for words to justify their use. Once upon a time, calling this situation "pay to win" would have gotten you laughed off the discussion boards. Of course, that was back when literacy was almost a prerequisite to even get on the internet, since you needed to at least be able to read instructions to do so.

By the way, there is literally no possible avenue by which a Chess player can become the FIDE world champion without spending money. Therefore, Chess is a pay to win competition.

You're absolutely right, this realm event is grindable and ftp can compete for top rankings because they don't have a set amount of acquirable points to reach. I don't know what I was thinking calling Realm Fest a pay to win event.

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable can figure out a way to rack up those points without spending. Maybe you can share some of that wisdom so that we can make it happen.

Once upon a time, the idea that Earth had a sphered shape got people laughed off including Pythagoras and Aristotle... little did they know.

So this is what’s essentially replaced the Summoner Appreciation events? This really feels poorly designed as a ‘community event.

This isn't replacing the "Summoner Appreciation Events."

Curious more clarity for Realm event coming? soon?

If you engage with the game in all areas throughout the next two months, you'll gain points in the event.
The more players that do this, the higher the overall Milestone will get, granting everyone more rewards throughout the event.

You can reach the top milestone without spending money on the event.
There are some milestones linked to in-person announcements, etc, at Summoners Fest in November...

Is there any additional clarity you're looking for me to share?

So all players have access to the valiant EQ this month? How does a player reach the top milestone without that?

I believe Paragon players still have access to Valiant EQ.

The top milestones consist of Tier 7 Basic.
If you aren't Paragon yet, Tier 7 Basic shouldn't be naturally obtainable.

So you are missing my point. All of the previous realm events let everyone contribute as much as they could/wanted to. Yes it is harder for lower accounts but they still could. A throne breaker player could have opened enough banquet crystals to get all of the rewards. A cavalier player could grind battlegrounds. This realm event restricts what players can get. Your argument is the top rewards are too good to give to lower accounts. What would they do with one Tier 7?

If Realm events are supposed to unite the community with a single goal, this fails because by your own admission the entire community can’t achieve the final goal.

There were knock back effects to those Events and lower Accounts having access to those. I'm with Rex on this. Anyone TB and under shouldn't have much access to T7B.

Then have a selector like every lower milestone if that is the concern. I don’t think any account having a single tier 7 has any impact since you need three and four tier 4 alpha for a rank 4.

I have problem if paragons are getting full t7b.
No problem if valiant.

As for the Twitch drop issue, it actually wasn't intended for it to be in the July drop, and these are extra points.

I'm aware that some people got it over others - (Why are you waiting a whole week to claim the Twitch drops, btw...?) - and I've asked the Data team to run a giftmap to everyone who claimed it before the points were live.

Maybe we'll do more streams with more extra points? Who knows, it's a long summer - and this event is supposed to be a casual and fun source of extra rewards you gain from engaging with the game leading up to Summoners Fest (come hang out in Vancouver, btw)

Appreciate the extra info. Can you address the lack of communication about raids as a major source of points, leading to many losing on this week of raids points? Do you guys see it as something potentially worthy of comp/fix, or is the general sentiment just “that’s the way it is”?

knowing the thought / intention behind the veil (even if it’s “negative” for us) is much better than being left in the dark. I think that is a big factor in so much negative feedback on forums/youtube lately. We feel left in a dark on many things

I would genuinely appreciate hearing back about this point, even if I don’t like the answer

So this is what’s essentially replaced the Summoner Appreciation events? This really feels poorly designed as a ‘community event.

This isn't replacing the "Summoner Appreciation Events."

Curious more clarity for Realm event coming? soon?

If you engage with the game in all areas throughout the next two months, you'll gain points in the event.
The more players that do this, the higher the overall Milestone will get, granting everyone more rewards throughout the event.

You can reach the top milestone without spending money on the event.
There are some milestones linked to in-person announcements, etc, at Summoners Fest in November...

Is there any additional clarity you're looking for me to share?