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I know!!! they should at least give mats towards some kind of ascension or something

this is the fastest way to get absolutely destroyed. If I see a deck with no cosmics and mystics. Im sending you to Valhalla with either quintuple tech ban or Quintuple mutant ban then placing yelena, attuma, bullseye, domino, brit.

The bigger account will have the huge advantage in any match…. Which really isn’t that different honestly. If you burned resources getting a few more defenders highly ranked so they all wouldn’t be banned, welp, too bad for you.

seems like a change for upper echelon BG players beating each other up. VC to just getting into GC won’t change much.

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The two champ idea is also terrible, but what they should have done is added a whitelist in which every season there’s one or two champs from each class that can’t be banned. As is tho, this change is horrible yes, and the smaller your account the more detrimental it is.

@ItsClobberinTime As I said, with this number of 5 bans, it's easy to ban all 5 counters for certain defenders who don't have many counters in-game. They should have created a whitelist so that, for example, two champions of each class can't be banned for both players. Now it's indeed become a draft-dependent game mode instead of a skill-based one

That is half true because yes there are still ways around certain defenders BUT what are the chances of you drafting exactly what you need? Sure we get three rerolls but it still isn’t guaranteed, it’s adding even more luck and draft reliance to the mode and after last meta that was the last thing we needed.

Also, it’s going to be very easy to exploit those holes against smaller accounts, way easier than it was before and that’s terrible. I don’t even have a small account myself but I know if I did it would make the game mode extremely miserable and I probably would join swiss cheese in his whining and not play at all.

I’ve rarely heard that complaint, I myself don’t ban Torch and I don’t have him. If people were complaining about that then it was probably players who are on the lower end, and those same players are getting harmed even more than p2w players now because even for defenders like Serpent who everyone has they might not have as many counters as someone with a huge account does. Let’s say they have only three, I ban those three and now I still have I don’t know let’s say Strange and Jane as solid options because my account is on the higher end in terms of size. Smaller accounts will have the Kushalas the Nicos and the Pavs but they probably won’t have the more niche ones I do have, it’s just making the game worse for smaller accounts.

Yeah that was my first thought as well and commented it above. The other problem is they are basically obsoleting a lot of existing attackers cause newerly released or buffed champs end up requiring specific counters ( unavoidable damage or safeguard like mechanics) .

If their goal is to broaden and diversify roster value/depth, then the current style of defenders completely contradicts it

not everyone was able to play the game during the sale 👍🏻