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@JESUSCHRIST I get what you’re saying, difficulty creep over time in games is normal, I don’t think anyone’s expecting the game to get easier. But nodes already add that difficulty increase so I feel this is a separate issue.

I can’t say I’ve had the same experience with evolving AI in other fighting games though. I agree some have definitely become more complex or refined over time, but they still feel like they’re operating within the same rules as the player.

That’s the difference here.

In MCOC, the difficulty at the moment often feels like it’s coming from things like reaction speed, recovery windows, and inconsistent behaviour that we can’t possibly replicate ourselves and that’s where it starts to feel off. Which actually lines up with what you mentioned in your earlier comment. 

Given this is a game that generates huge revenue and has now branched onto PC, putting it in the same space as titles like Street Fighter or Tekken, I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect the AI to feel consistent and fair in how it behaves.

Those games can have extremely difficult AI, but it still feels readable and grounded in the same rules as the players.

That’s all players are really asking for here; not easier fights, just a fair and consistent playing field.

Unless they make end game content restricted to using 7* champs where Torch is one of the top available options. Then your maxed 6* is worthless.

fixing would mean completely rebuild the mcoc fighting engine, I assume. It’ll never be fixed

The AI is different with every update, it's getting faster and quicker

I got special in the face after dodging AI heavy and I went in to punish the heavy with perfect timing but AI recover so fast after its heavy, it's ridiculous by now

This 1 frame recovery and reaction is a joke TBH

I also wanna add, the AI manipulation we do have access to, doesn't feel like it works.

I'd say it's even worse than doesn't work. I r5'd my Luma because i love this champ, but I can't tell ya how often, just this week, i'm holding heavy, and the AI stays passive until the heavy just about releases, and they hit me right at release. They're supposed to be more aggressive with the evade charge active. And to basically intercept the first hit of my fast, multi-hitting heavy, it's insane and it feels really bad.

The best part is Kabam saying: "AI is just a button Smasher"

This "button Smasher" is really, really insane lol

Pre nerf was Crit Me with your Best Shot, but the idea is the same, use someone with an extremely high crit rate to bypass the node

You need taunt/ guaranteed crits, or champs with access to both. You could use ham or starky (assuming you even have those 2). You could bring bullseye (you’ll die from surging vengeance, bullseye can’t get around it). I think you could still cheese it with ghost but I forgot how that method works.

Yeah same, can someone post this please?

I did I just thought that it was odd and weird of them to place him in the quest