New 6* Featured Crystal Discussion

Some really good champs in this interation. However, the garbage champs are extremely bad. Hulkbuster is the ultimate 6* trash champ lol

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RiderofHell

NiteAndDae wrote: »

True, if someone (like the person in the attached image) has a decent 6* roster already, this new batch really doesn't add much, and in fact, the basic pool is much more attractive as they can at least dupe more of the decent ones already present.

How the hell you got 15 lol

GroundedWisdom

RiderofHell wrote: »

NiteAndDae wrote: »

True, if someone (like the person in the attached image) has a decent 6* roster already, this new batch really doesn't add much, and in fact, the basic pool is much more attractive as they can at least dupe more of the decent ones already present.

How the hell you got 15 lol

20. 5 Dups.

DNA3000

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

RagamugginGunner wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Werewrym wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

To be honest, I see at least 17 Champs I could put to good use. Those odds aren't bad.

Where'd you get that number? I see only 13-14 good ones with some of those requiring a dupe. You must be counting someone like Storm, DD or MK as "good"

I said I could put them to good use. Storm was one of them, yes. Not the latter two. Honestly, people have to get away from this quest for God Tiers.

The result of that is seeing anything but as trash.

You're just not playing the same game as the people in a position to open a featured 6*. You can theorize all you want about the endgame in MCOC but until you're there you're just guessing.

The truth of the matter is that there are only a handful of useful champs that are needed for endgame AW. All other modes of the game do not need specific champs for.

The new Variant quest was great in giving people a reason to use their mediocre 6* champs, but they weren't needed. I use my 6* HE for the first time outside of arena in chapter one. It was fun but I could have just used any HE or Gambit for those paths.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. People think if they don't get Kills in the Top Tiers, they're useless. That's not an accurate assessment. You can pass judgment on me if you like, but I'm capable of opening the same Crystals. People limit their gameplay, so they limit their Rosters. That doesn't mean the Champs are useless.

You just don't get it. You are capable of opening a featured 6*, but it would probably take someone at your level about a year to get 15k shards. It would be silly for someone at your level to spend 15k shards on a featured, regardless of what you got. And if someone at your level did, getting a garbage champ would be sooo much worse than someone at my level. Getting a good L1 6* champ so someone at you spot in the game would be game changing. Hell, even getting a Storm for someone at your level would be a boost to your roster. Spending an extra 5k shards to get a HB or Rhino would be devastating.

With my roster, I am able to get shards fast enough that a 6* feature crystal may make sense (I don't but do only open 5* features). If I hit, that's great but if I miss I'm not holding my account back. At my level, there are so few champs that would actually help my roster that separating champs into a few tiers makes sense. People with bad rosters just want more champs.

To a some people a Big Mac is amazing, to most people a Big Mac is garbage that you sometimes have to eat when there are no other options.

Someone at my level. Hmm. Interesting assessment there. You do realize 6* Shards are much more available now than when they were released, right?

You just recently became uncollected, and assuming you fully explore every single uncollected month it would take about six months to acquire 15k shards. Slightly less if you dup a significant number of 5* champions. But most people don't become uncollected and then immediately clear every uncollected map after that. I didn't: it took two months for me to do so, and honestly it wasn't easy. So would guess that you'd earn 15k 6* shards in about eight or nine months approximately. And at that earning rate I wouldn't recommend going for featured 6* crystals in the first place. It is very likely I'm earning them faster than you, and I think they are a bad proposition for me.

And relevant to the discussion, the reason why I think they are a bad proposition is because I see 6* champs in roughly three tiers: rarely useful, situationally useful, and jackpot-o-rama. The odds of getting a jackpot are low, and the cost for every shot high, so it is better to get more shots than one slightly better shot. You're at least more likely over time to get a bunch of situationally useful champs, which I think is more important for 6* pulls. You pull one crystal and it turns out to be "rarely useful" and that means little to no benefit for a very long stretch.

Calling champs "useless" is a bit of hyperbole, but I do think that you have to be able to value the champs in some way other than "everything is kind of useful" because if you can't place a value on the champs, you have no way to know whether the 6* basic crystal is more valuable than the 6* featured or vice versa. If you think they are all literally the same, then the basic has more intrinsic value (because it costs less). If you think the champs in the featured are valuable enough to be worth the extra shards, then the featured might be worth it.

And if you haven't actually spent the time earning the shards and actually hovered your finger over that crystal and had to make that decision for real, I don't think you really understand what the choice actually is all about. I've made that choice for both 5* and 6* crystals, and it is all theoretical until you decide to spend resources you spent months acquiring. It is a lot different when you decide, like I did, to go for a featured crystal (in my case 5*) because the math says to do it, and then you get unlucky.

I don't always agree with people who complain about the crystals, but I do understand the frustration of having things go bad. And I don't think it is something you can just handwave away until you experience it yourself.