Features 6 * crystal is a big gamble as 6 star shards are rare as hell. Gotta say Thanks to Kabam for taking that little thought of "i should have tried the featured 6 * crystal" . I feel better about the regular 6 star Crystal !
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I don't know that anyone who saved 15k 6* shards would be happy pulling Cyclops.
Enough people play this game so as to make the odds of many of them actually being happy with 6* Cyclops basically a certainty. It is one thing to be unable to think of a reason why someone would want 6* Cyclops. It is another thing to believe that since you can't think of one, no one else in the world could.
My issue is how trash both versions of cyclops are, and yet they’ve now added both versions of cyclops.
But don’t worry, everyone just sit nicely and don’t voice your complaints, in the next featured crystal they’ll add white magneto, that way you can get not 1, but 2 different magnetos, to go with your 2 versions of cyclops
There's going to be good and bad champs in every single crystal in this game, it's just how it works. The only thing I agree with out of all this childish crying going on about redclops, is that there are a ton of equivalent not great champs they could have added as opposed to adding basically a copy of a bad one
Never said there shouldn’t be bad champs? I just don’t think we should have multiple versions of the same trash character, should atleast be a little diverse with the trash.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact. I’m not endorsing all this craze over Seatins video, because frankly there’re still worse pulls, but don’t kid yourself that there is even one person who’d be happy with a Cyclops from the 6* pool.
I am in agreement with those that think this pool has far less useful champs than featured crystals we have seen in the past. I would bet that there will be a significant decrease in the number of players going for this featured crystal as there were for the previous featured crystals.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
And those few players out there already have a Cyclops to go for. No need for that *VERY* limited niche of players to have 2 versions...
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
And those few players out there already have a Cyclops to go for. No need for that *VERY* limited niche of players to have 2 versions...
What's the threshold number of players such that they become ignorable?
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
Not for free.
Exactly, the task is impossible, hence not worth doing for free. Also let me make a clarification on my statement. Anyone OPENING a 6* crystal is far enough in the game to know he’s worthless and no one wants him. There might perhaps exist a player not at the level of 6* champs who still finds a use for Cyclops. This is also the case for many other champs in the 6* pool so don’t feel like I’m singling out Cyclops. eg. IF, DPX, HB. The point is that it is quite naive to think anyone at the level of 6* champs would want a Cyclops.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
Not for free.
Exactly, the task is impossible, hence not worth doing for free. Also let me make a clarification on my statement. Anyone OPENING a 6* crystal is far enough in the game to know he’s worthless and no one wants him. There might perhaps exist a player not at the level of 6* champs who still finds a use for Cyclops. This is also the case for many other champs in the 6* pool so don’t feel like I’m singling out Cyclops. eg. IF, DPX, HB. The point is that it is quite naive to think anyone at the level of 6* champs would want a Cyclops.
This is a failure of imagination, which was my original point. It doesn't matter why someone might want 6* Cyclops: you don't get to decide which reasons are legitimate. The fact is, this is not just a bet I won't lose, this is a bet that I literally cannot lose. Which would be obvious to anyone who thought about this intelligently for more than a few seconds.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
Not for free.
Exactly, the task is impossible, hence not worth doing for free. Also let me make a clarification on my statement. Anyone OPENING a 6* crystal is far enough in the game to know he’s worthless and no one wants him. There might perhaps exist a player not at the level of 6* champs who still finds a use for Cyclops. This is also the case for many other champs in the 6* pool so don’t feel like I’m singling out Cyclops. eg. IF, DPX, HB. The point is that it is quite naive to think anyone at the level of 6* champs would want a Cyclops.
To be a bit of a devil's advocate, perhaps you're looking on the wrong spectrum of players getting 6* champs. Instead of those who are just getting into them, what about the truly end-game spending whales? Crystal Opening Whale may want Cyclops simply to "complete the set" and not necessarily for any specific content counter.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
Not for free.
Exactly, the task is impossible, hence not worth doing for free. Also let me make a clarification on my statement. Anyone OPENING a 6* crystal is far enough in the game to know he’s worthless and no one wants him. There might perhaps exist a player not at the level of 6* champs who still finds a use for Cyclops. This is also the case for many other champs in the 6* pool so don’t feel like I’m singling out Cyclops. eg. IF, DPX, HB. The point is that it is quite naive to think anyone at the level of 6* champs would want a Cyclops.
This is a failure of imagination, which was my original point. It doesn't matter why someone might want 6* Cyclops: you don't get to decide which reasons are legitimate. The fact is, this is not just a bet I won't lose, this is a bet that I literally cannot lose. Which would be obvious to anyone who thought about this intelligently for more than a few seconds.
I’m sorry but you still lose the bet because there isn’t anyone who wants a Cyclops. And thank you for accusing my intelligence.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
And those few players out there already have a Cyclops to go for. No need for that *VERY* limited niche of players to have 2 versions...
What's the threshold number of players such that they become ignorable?
You're focusing on the wrong part of my counter-argument. I don't disagree that players might exist who want Cyclops, my point is that they already have one in the crystal.
I would make this same point if Kabam added both Magneto's or Miss Marvel/Cap Marvel. The better version of all 3 "pairs" of these low-tier champs are already in the crystal. Adding their lesser skilled doppelgangers just sucks.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
Not for free.
Exactly, the task is impossible, hence not worth doing for free. Also let me make a clarification on my statement. Anyone OPENING a 6* crystal is far enough in the game to know he’s worthless and no one wants him. There might perhaps exist a player not at the level of 6* champs who still finds a use for Cyclops. This is also the case for many other champs in the 6* pool so don’t feel like I’m singling out Cyclops. eg. IF, DPX, HB. The point is that it is quite naive to think anyone at the level of 6* champs would want a Cyclops.
This is a failure of imagination, which was my original point. It doesn't matter why someone might want 6* Cyclops: you don't get to decide which reasons are legitimate. The fact is, this is not just a bet I won't lose, this is a bet that I literally cannot lose. Which would be obvious to anyone who thought about this intelligently for more than a few seconds.
I’m sorry but you still lose the bet because there isn’t anyone who wants a Cyclops. And thank you for accusing my intelligence.
I do. You lose. And I do not believe I ever accused you of intelligence.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
And those few players out there already have a Cyclops to go for. No need for that *VERY* limited niche of players to have 2 versions...
What's the threshold number of players such that they become ignorable?
You're focusing on the wrong part of my counter-argument. I don't disagree that players might exist who want Cyclops, my point is that they already have one in the crystal.
I would make this same point if Kabam added both Magneto's or Miss Marvel/Cap Marvel. The better version of all 3 "pairs" of these low-tier champs are already in the crystal. Adding their lesser skilled doppelgangers just sucks.
I don't think I'm focusing on the "wrong" part of your counter-argument, primarily because the best response I have to this clarification is to repeat the previous statement. What's the minimum threshold of players that want *this particular* Cyclops such that they can be ignored, or simply told to settle for the other one?
There's an unstated bias that permeates most discussions in this area across all games I've played. And that bias is the presumption that basically, the min/max approach to the game is the only legitimate one. If someone wants the Blue Cyclops, who cares just give them the red one, because we decide that's good enough, in fact that's the "better" one. In a game that is extremely heavily focused on collecting champions, that's not a reasonable assumption. There's over a million players of the game. Only a tiny fraction of them could even *describe* the ability difference between them accurately. More people collect things for emotional reasons than gameplay reasons. And those people outnumber those of us that look at the gameplay first by huge margins: I'd estimate at least ten to one if not more.
We don't tend to notice this enormous discrepancy, because they are largely invisible. You won't find them posting on the forums much, because why would they? They are treated as less than second class citizens. I remember a while back someone posting that Hulkbuster was his favorite champ. Exactly zero people didn't at least slightly jab at that choice, if not completely **** on it.
What I've learned over many years playing online games is that very often when the developers do something that it seems no one likes, there's a lot of people who like it, they just don't voice that opinion. Anyone who's been a part of a statistically random sampled focus group for an online game has seen this effect first hand. Random samples of players look literally nothing like what you'd expect to see if all you knew was discussions on public forums.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
And those few players out there already have a Cyclops to go for. No need for that *VERY* limited niche of players to have 2 versions...
What's the threshold number of players such that they become ignorable?
You're focusing on the wrong part of my counter-argument. I don't disagree that players might exist who want Cyclops, my point is that they already have one in the crystal.
I would make this same point if Kabam added both Magneto's or Miss Marvel/Cap Marvel. The better version of all 3 "pairs" of these low-tier champs are already in the crystal. Adding their lesser skilled doppelgangers just sucks.
I don't think I'm focusing on the "wrong" part of your counter-argument, primarily because the best response I have to this clarification is to repeat the previous statement. What's the minimum threshold of players that want *this particular* Cyclops such that they can be ignored, or simply told to settle for the other one?
There's an unstated bias that permeates most discussions in this area across all games I've played. And that bias is the presumption that basically, the min/max approach to the game is the only legitimate one. If someone wants the Blue Cyclops, who cares just give them the red one, because we decide that's good enough, in fact that's the "better" one. In a game that is extremely heavily focused on collecting champions, that's not a reasonable assumption. There's over a million players of the game. Only a tiny fraction of them could even *describe* the ability difference between them accurately. More people collect things for emotional reasons than gameplay reasons. And those people outnumber those of us that look at the gameplay first by huge margins: I'd estimate at least ten to one if not more.
We don't tend to notice this enormous discrepancy, because they are largely invisible. You won't find them posting on the forums much, because why would they? They are treated as less than second class citizens. I remember a while back someone posting that Hulkbuster was his favorite champ. Exactly zero people didn't at least slightly jab at that choice, if not completely **** on it.
What I've learned over many years playing online games is that very often when the developers do something that it seems no one likes, there's a lot of people who like it, they just don't voice that opinion. Anyone who's been a part of a statistically random sampled focus group for an online game has seen this effect first hand. Random samples of players look literally nothing like what you'd expect to see if all you knew was discussions on public forums.
You sound like you view yourself as wise and others as those who don't have the imagination to think as deeply as you, when you say the majority have a "failure of imagination", of a large hidden group of players who love these dev changes, such as trash champ 6* additions.
The "people" who do like having multiple cyclops as a 6* pull like it but Just don't voice their opinion? They're ok with collecting DPXF and cyclops as a 6* trophy champion for "emotional" reasons? Where are you pulling you're data from? Funny thing is because "they" DON'T voice their opinion, it makes their joy for changes to game (good or bad) not helpful.
I think it's logical why the majority believe that no one grinds for 4-5 months and would be happy with various cyclops, hulkbuster, magneto red, magneto white, or deadpool XF over one that is a "game changer"- a champ that can actually make certain content easier for them to clear.
When you bring up this "silent" supporters of the majority's speaking of Kabam's disliked changes, it makes your argument dubious because how are you tracking their existence? How can you say this large "silent" group exists if they don't speak up?
With your logic, devs can make any ridiculous decision on the direction of the game as long as it pleases this "a lot of people who like it" (but really almost if not nonexistent) group.
So there's this unstated bias in which you stated. I'm not saying you're without reason that some people don't really voice their opinion contrary to the majority. HOWEVER, this bias you assume for this hidden large silent players (who love collecting trash champs for emotional reasons) may apply for 2*, 3*, 4*.. but 5* champs more likely rarely?, 6* champs even highly unlikely. As long as 6* shards are so hard to get, it's a joke to think people are happy with pulling trash 6* champs over and over.
You act like there is much of a difference between these almost identical trash champions, and it's cool that Kabam is catering to this silent part of the playerbase.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
Not for free.
Exactly, the task is impossible, hence not worth doing for free. Also let me make a clarification on my statement. Anyone OPENING a 6* crystal is far enough in the game to know he’s worthless and no one wants him. There might perhaps exist a player not at the level of 6* champs who still finds a use for Cyclops. This is also the case for many other champs in the 6* pool so don’t feel like I’m singling out Cyclops. eg. IF, DPX, HB. The point is that it is quite naive to think anyone at the level of 6* champs would want a Cyclops.
This is a failure of imagination, which was my original point. It doesn't matter why someone might want 6* Cyclops: you don't get to decide which reasons are legitimate. The fact is, this is not just a bet I won't lose, this is a bet that I literally cannot lose. Which would be obvious to anyone who thought about this intelligently for more than a few seconds.
I’m sorry but you still lose the bet because there isn’t anyone who wants a Cyclops. And thank you for accusing my intelligence.
I do. You lose. And I do not believe I ever accused you of intelligence.
So you're telling me you'd be happy with 6* Cyclops? What're you gonna use him for? Bench warming? I mean, it's not there's any content that he's actually good at? The same can be said for so many other useless champs in the 6* pool so don't think I'm just beating a stick on Cyclops here.
You say that you want him but for the sake of the disagreement that only looks like you wanted to say "You lose." Find me someone else who doesn't have anything at stake then I'll believe you. It won't happen because everyone knows that Cyclops sucks. I'm sorry but this topic strikes a nerve with me because everyone wants to say "Oh you're champs aren't that bad" and "It could be worse," but the fact is sucky pulls straight up suck, and if you are on the wrong end of a Cyclops pull I guarantee you there won't be anyone feeling happy.
Also on a separate note, do you really have to resort to personal accusations that I have a "lack of intelligence?" since when is that ever beneficial to an disagreement? I like most people don't appreciate ridiculous accusations about myself.
I’m gonna be honest it seems horrible not worth the 5k extra shards at all your thoughts?
I wouldn't pull that crystal, but that's fine. There are players that will, and for every single champ in that crystal there will be players perfectly happy with pulling them. Yes, even Cyclops. Just sit it out and wait for the next one if this one isn't doing it for you.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
Not for free.
Exactly, the task is impossible, hence not worth doing for free. Also let me make a clarification on my statement. Anyone OPENING a 6* crystal is far enough in the game to know he’s worthless and no one wants him. There might perhaps exist a player not at the level of 6* champs who still finds a use for Cyclops. This is also the case for many other champs in the 6* pool so don’t feel like I’m singling out Cyclops. eg. IF, DPX, HB. The point is that it is quite naive to think anyone at the level of 6* champs would want a Cyclops.
To be a bit of a devil's advocate, perhaps you're looking on the wrong spectrum of players getting 6* champs. Instead of those who are just getting into them, what about the truly end-game spending whales? Crystal Opening Whale may want Cyclops simply to "complete the set" and not necessarily for any specific content counter.
To be fair he is quite a ways from that point, so the argument that there is no one who wants 6* Cyclops is indefinitely true.
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this is the order:
- DD (10k shards)
- Red Hulk (10k shards)
- DD (15k shards looking for Domino)
- Hood (10k shards)
- Domino (10k shards)
- Spiderman Morales (10k shards)
Enough people play this game so as to make the odds of many of them actually being happy with 6* Cyclops basically a certainty. It is one thing to be unable to think of a reason why someone would want 6* Cyclops. It is another thing to believe that since you can't think of one, no one else in the world could.
Never said there shouldn’t be bad champs? I just don’t think we should have multiple versions of the same trash character, should atleast be a little diverse with the trash.
I’m sorry but there is no player happy to pull a 6* Cyclops... That is just a fact. I’m not endorsing all this craze over Seatins video, because frankly there’re still worse pulls, but don’t kid yourself that there is even one person who’d be happy with a Cyclops from the 6* pool.
I am in agreement with those that think this pool has far less useful champs than featured crystals we have seen in the past. I would bet that there will be a significant decrease in the number of players going for this featured crystal as there were for the previous featured crystals.
I'll bet anything you want there's at least one. Anything.
Please find one for me... You won’t be able to because anyone popping a 6* crystal knows how useless he is.
And those few players out there already have a Cyclops to go for. No need for that *VERY* limited niche of players to have 2 versions...
Not for free.
What's the threshold number of players such that they become ignorable?
Exactly, the task is impossible, hence not worth doing for free. Also let me make a clarification on my statement. Anyone OPENING a 6* crystal is far enough in the game to know he’s worthless and no one wants him. There might perhaps exist a player not at the level of 6* champs who still finds a use for Cyclops. This is also the case for many other champs in the 6* pool so don’t feel like I’m singling out Cyclops. eg. IF, DPX, HB. The point is that it is quite naive to think anyone at the level of 6* champs would want a Cyclops.
This is a failure of imagination, which was my original point. It doesn't matter why someone might want 6* Cyclops: you don't get to decide which reasons are legitimate. The fact is, this is not just a bet I won't lose, this is a bet that I literally cannot lose. Which would be obvious to anyone who thought about this intelligently for more than a few seconds.
To be a bit of a devil's advocate, perhaps you're looking on the wrong spectrum of players getting 6* champs. Instead of those who are just getting into them, what about the truly end-game spending whales? Crystal Opening Whale may want Cyclops simply to "complete the set" and not necessarily for any specific content counter.
I’m sorry but you still lose the bet because there isn’t anyone who wants a Cyclops. And thank you for accusing my intelligence.
You're focusing on the wrong part of my counter-argument. I don't disagree that players might exist who want Cyclops, my point is that they already have one in the crystal.
I would make this same point if Kabam added both Magneto's or Miss Marvel/Cap Marvel. The better version of all 3 "pairs" of these low-tier champs are already in the crystal. Adding their lesser skilled doppelgangers just sucks.
I do. You lose. And I do not believe I ever accused you of intelligence.
I don't think I'm focusing on the "wrong" part of your counter-argument, primarily because the best response I have to this clarification is to repeat the previous statement. What's the minimum threshold of players that want *this particular* Cyclops such that they can be ignored, or simply told to settle for the other one?
There's an unstated bias that permeates most discussions in this area across all games I've played. And that bias is the presumption that basically, the min/max approach to the game is the only legitimate one. If someone wants the Blue Cyclops, who cares just give them the red one, because we decide that's good enough, in fact that's the "better" one. In a game that is extremely heavily focused on collecting champions, that's not a reasonable assumption. There's over a million players of the game. Only a tiny fraction of them could even *describe* the ability difference between them accurately. More people collect things for emotional reasons than gameplay reasons. And those people outnumber those of us that look at the gameplay first by huge margins: I'd estimate at least ten to one if not more.
We don't tend to notice this enormous discrepancy, because they are largely invisible. You won't find them posting on the forums much, because why would they? They are treated as less than second class citizens. I remember a while back someone posting that Hulkbuster was his favorite champ. Exactly zero people didn't at least slightly jab at that choice, if not completely **** on it.
What I've learned over many years playing online games is that very often when the developers do something that it seems no one likes, there's a lot of people who like it, they just don't voice that opinion. Anyone who's been a part of a statistically random sampled focus group for an online game has seen this effect first hand. Random samples of players look literally nothing like what you'd expect to see if all you knew was discussions on public forums.
You sound like you view yourself as wise and others as those who don't have the imagination to think as deeply as you, when you say the majority have a "failure of imagination", of a large hidden group of players who love these dev changes, such as trash champ 6* additions.
The "people" who do like having multiple cyclops as a 6* pull like it but Just don't voice their opinion? They're ok with collecting DPXF and cyclops as a 6* trophy champion for "emotional" reasons? Where are you pulling you're data from? Funny thing is because "they" DON'T voice their opinion, it makes their joy for changes to game (good or bad) not helpful.
I think it's logical why the majority believe that no one grinds for 4-5 months and would be happy with various cyclops, hulkbuster, magneto red, magneto white, or deadpool XF over one that is a "game changer"- a champ that can actually make certain content easier for them to clear.
When you bring up this "silent" supporters of the majority's speaking of Kabam's disliked changes, it makes your argument dubious because how are you tracking their existence? How can you say this large "silent" group exists if they don't speak up?
With your logic, devs can make any ridiculous decision on the direction of the game as long as it pleases this "a lot of people who like it" (but really almost if not nonexistent) group.
So there's this unstated bias in which you stated. I'm not saying you're without reason that some people don't really voice their opinion contrary to the majority. HOWEVER, this bias you assume for this hidden large silent players (who love collecting trash champs for emotional reasons) may apply for 2*, 3*, 4*.. but 5* champs more likely rarely?, 6* champs even highly unlikely. As long as 6* shards are so hard to get, it's a joke to think people are happy with pulling trash 6* champs over and over.
You act like there is much of a difference between these almost identical trash champions, and it's cool that Kabam is catering to this silent part of the playerbase.
So you're telling me you'd be happy with 6* Cyclops? What're you gonna use him for? Bench warming? I mean, it's not there's any content that he's actually good at? The same can be said for so many other useless champs in the 6* pool so don't think I'm just beating a stick on Cyclops here.
You say that you want him but for the sake of the disagreement that only looks like you wanted to say "You lose." Find me someone else who doesn't have anything at stake then I'll believe you. It won't happen because everyone knows that Cyclops sucks. I'm sorry but this topic strikes a nerve with me because everyone wants to say "Oh you're champs aren't that bad" and "It could be worse," but the fact is sucky pulls straight up suck, and if you are on the wrong end of a Cyclops pull I guarantee you there won't be anyone feeling happy.
Also on a separate note, do you really have to resort to personal accusations that I have a "lack of intelligence?" since when is that ever beneficial to an disagreement? I like most people don't appreciate ridiculous accusations about myself.
To be fair he is quite a ways from that point, so the argument that there is no one who wants 6* Cyclops is indefinitely true.