Rocket's permanent shield vs havok

Nikhil

Havok's abilities says that after he applies 10 of those charges on opponent it bursts and deals damage but no damage if Armor up is active.
So, when rocket activates his armor up after dashing back etc.., he still takes damage when havok applies 10 of those charges..
This shouldn't be happening.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Are they armor up buffs?
Do you have a screenshot of it?

KnightNvrEnding

Nikhil said:

Havok's abilities says that after he applies 10 of those charges on opponent it bursts and deals damage but no damage if Armor up is active.
So, when rocket activates his armor up after dashing back etc.., he still takes damage when havok applies 10 of those charges..
This shouldn't be happening.

It’s because his shield doesn’t fall under armor up buff lol

Kobster84

KnightNvrEnding said:

Nikhil said:

Havok's abilities says that after he applies 10 of those charges on opponent it bursts and deals damage but no damage if Armor up is active.
So, when rocket activates his armor up after dashing back etc.., he still takes damage when havok applies 10 of those charges..
This shouldn't be happening.

It’s because his shield doesn’t fall under armor up buff lol

It is an armor up buff though

Kobster84

Wait nevermind they changed it to passive don’t know when tho

Nikhil

will-o-wisp said:

Are they armor up buffs?
Do you have a screenshot of it?

I don't have screenshot of the match but it clearly says here that Armor up buff.

Nikhil

will-o-wisp said:

Are they armor up buffs?
Do you have a screenshot of it?

I don't have screenshot of the match but it clearly says here that Armor up buff.

GroundedWisdom

It's applied through his Shield, not an actual Armor Up Buff. That's the effect, but not specifically an Armor Up.

Nikhil

GroundedWisdom said:

It's applied through his Shield, not an actual Armor Up Buff. That's the effect, but not specifically an Armor Up.

I understand. But I think they should work against havok. At least some use of Rocket's shield 😅

GroundedWisdom

Granted, I agree that he's squishy, but he's still one of the harder hitters. I won't give up on our little Trash Panda. XD

Gamer

It stil pasive to

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Nikhil said:

will-o-wisp said:

Are they armor up buffs?
Do you have a screenshot of it?

I don't have screenshot of the match but it clearly says here that Armor up buff.

It doesn't say it is a armor up buff.
So I assume it's working as intended

Nikhil

will-o-wisp said:

Nikhil said:

will-o-wisp said:

Are they armor up buffs?
Do you have a screenshot of it?

I don't have screenshot of the match but it clearly says here that Armor up buff.

It doesn't say it is a armor up buff.
So I assume it's working as intended

Bro it says 4 charges of Armor up .. that's why I'm confused.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Nikhil said:

will-o-wisp said:

Nikhil said:

will-o-wisp said:

Are they armor up buffs?
Do you have a screenshot of it?

I don't have screenshot of the match but it clearly says here that Armor up buff.

It doesn't say it is a armor up buff.
So I assume it's working as intended

Bro it says 4 charges of Armor up .. that's why I'm confused.

Exactly. It doesn't say 4 charges of armor up buffs. So they are not armor up buffs, and they are the same armors given by the optimist/pessimist node, the same that Sentinel gets after a sp3, or the same armor's that IW Iron Man triggers during the fight.
Not buffs. They will not interact as buffs.

MaatMan

Nikhil said:

will-o-wisp said:

Are they armor up buffs?
Do you have a screenshot of it?

I don't have screenshot of the match but it clearly says here that Armor up buff.

I does not say armor up buff.
It says armor up only.
If it does not say buff then one would assume it is passive.for some reason you are deciding to add buff when you read it.
It does not say buff. It is an armor up passive

Championcritic

Maybe you activated the wrong shield and thats why you suffered the damage? if you had a screenshot of your raccoon taking damage even with the correct shield it would make your case clearer.

DrZola

Actually, 4 charges of “Armor Up” is easily interpreted as 4 Armor Up buffs. I understand it may not be working this way, which is the ultimate determinant of what was intended (or should be, unless it works too much in your advantage, in which case it could be termed an “exploit”), but the capitalization and mention of “charges” (written waaay before we had the persistent charges we have in game today) would suggest something like buffs.

Like I said, if it doesn’t work, then there’s your answer for now. But it’s definitely arguable that those should be the traditional Armor Up buffs, unless there is something specifically called an Armor Up charge in game. I simply can’t think of any such thing at the moment.

Dr. Zola

Kobster84

They used to be buffs don’t know when they became passive

Kobster84

They are now passive for some reason

DrZola

Kobster84 said:

They are now passive for some reason

That looks like an Armor Up buff to me. Is that what it looks like now?

Dr. Zola

EDIT: I don’t think it has that white outline any longer.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Kobster84 said:

They are now passive for some reason

That was in a time when buffs and passive abilities looked the same. It always was a passive ability despite the way it looked

Kobster84

will-o-wisp said:

Kobster84 said:

They are now passive for some reason

That was in a time when buffs and passive abilities looked the same. It always was a passive ability despite the way it looked

I bet you it could be nullified back then

MaatMan

DrZola said:

Actually, 4 charges of “Armor Up” is easily interpreted as 4 Armor Up buffs. I understand it may not be working this way, which is the ultimate determinant of what was intended (or should be, unless it works too much in your advantage, in which case it could be termed an “exploit”), but the capitalization and mention of “charges” (written waaay before we had the persistent charges we have in game today) would suggest something like buffs.

Like I said, if it doesn’t work, then there’s your answer for now. But it’s definitely arguable that those should be the traditional Armor Up buffs, unless there is something specifically called an Armor Up charge in game. I simply can’t think of any such thing at the moment.

Dr. Zola

you will see however when u use it that it is infact the passive style icon being used not the buff style icon
which is why they change passives and buffs to be different to stop any confusion.