Misleading abilities: RDT
Mr_Otter
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Yeah so the wording on Hood's abilities NEVER indicated a 1-limit to his Stagger and the fact that the old one being removed forms count towards his siphon is VERY misleading
I was planning on using him for longer quests because of his regen but as it stands he's a subpar damage junkie only really good for the L1 shock but if that's the case is much rather have Jane Foster as her shocks are roughly the same plus as she's Duped she's gets massive damage just by using parry.
If I could get a RDT to fix this that'd be great as the text is VERY misleading
I was planning on using him for longer quests because of his regen but as it stands he's a subpar damage junkie only really good for the L1 shock but if that's the case is much rather have Jane Foster as her shocks are roughly the same plus as she's Duped she's gets massive damage just by using parry.
If I could get a RDT to fix this that'd be great as the text is VERY misleading
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Nothing to do here
Go to test his 4/40 in RoL and WS doesn't give him any regen
Better explanations on some of these abilities would be appreciated. It's not required to play the game. It's just a nice-to-have.
But literally ANY Debuff stacks aside from Resonate which is purely a balance and X23 which is just common knowledge
Hood is still really new and as such very few people actually discuss him. But used against champs like Hulk, CWBP, and others just keeping up with the normal flow was still allowing major gaps in Stagger and keeping track of the opponent like "oh they have armor or fury" this enemy must be having better RNG with their abilities than j have with Stagger
Then I go to test the 4/40 in RoL and what a surprise mid way through L2 animation I noticed… "huh only one? WHY IS MY HEALTH SO LOW?!" And actually looking more at the Stagger (a wonderful way to die btw) omg it doesn't stack
Most older champs are limited in Fury or Crit buffs (like Gamora's Cruelty) but never for debuffs like Stagger from Juggs/Jane or even fatigue/weakness from Fixit. Hood is from February and that was around when champs were consistently getting more complex and more powerful so without the disclaimer
"Warning this ability DOES NOT STACK"
It's like HUH?!
And before creating more non sense threads, War machine can't stack more than 5 bleeds in the sp1, elektra can't stack more than 2 bleeds on sp1/sp2 (two different bleeds), agent venom can't stack more than 1 bleed bla bla bla.
Don't go on saying "oh this is bug" without knowibg anything. At least ask it ..
1. Isn't WM a 5 hit from the L1 anyways or maybe 6 but RNG states the odds are very low? That one isn't a big deal... RNG messes with every champs max potential
2. Probs because it ties into her AAR and the devs are stupid like with x23 and couldn't processes her applying multiple bleeds
3. His L1 and L2 are only SUPPOSED to cause 1 bleed each
And if these truly ARE bugs then bring them up! Either get Kabam to clearify it on champ text to prevent cases like this or make them stack… simple! But most of them don't have such a USELESS "limit/bug" or whatever it is like Hood who loses his entire sustainability because of it
I'll just leave this here for a few...
the trouble is this has nothing to do with it being or not being a bug, this is you QQ'ing about something you were uninformed about due to your own ignorance and wanting RDTs. you messed up, kabam isn't going to fix that for you.
Oh okay ... You didn't get it ...
You're wrong.
War machine can only apply 5 bleeds max per special 1. If you use 2x sp1 , the bleed will be only 5, not 6 or higher. Its a cap, not a bug.
Elektra same thing. Agent venom same thing.
Kabam already clarified them all in the past. Nothing to do here
I'm still trying to figure out the diff between Spirt Venom and Poison.
I'm expecting for a champion that can bleed bleed-immune champs with a special "Magic bleed" more and more as time goes on only for a bug to spread it to all bleeds
No I mostly used him vs champs that would proc armor and fury a lot more often than I COULD stack Stagger
So this is why I'm surprised they don't stack
It's like learning GR can't use multiple bleeds from M-LL-LL but at least that is hinted at from his text as a side-effect of judgments which also don't stack.
The difference however is people DONT TALK about Hood. "GR IS AMAZING" nonstop but no one talks about hood like, EVER
This was already clarified. Hood is working as intended
You need a disclaimer to understand that a Champ doesn't stack? No. Not all Debuffs stack. It usually indicates in the description whether they do or not, and what their limitations are. There's also the Forum, where you can read about Champs and what their limitations are. The Hood doesn't have sustainable Regen. He has a combination of other Abilities that make him quite viable when looking at the entire picture. Then there's the age-old tradition of testing a Champ thoroughly before you Rank them or take them into harder content. We can't ask them to buff every Champ in our Roster based on our challenges, nerf the hard ones, and give RDT's because our Ranking choices aren't a go-to for everything. You have some good ideas about Champs, and you also have a general discontent about a majority of them. There is alot that goes into making a Champ. It has to fit within the structure of the game, while still being balanced. Changes come after much forethought. Feel free to share your ideas. I just think your expectations are not based in reality. That's my opinion.
You'd not BELEIVE the horror stories I've heard.
People generally can't REALLY test a champ even in Masters sometimes so they have to resort to like RoL or Act 4-5 and both of those are skewed one way or the other unless you wanna commit to a LOOOOOONG path in story, so go to Maestro and his Degen L1 they mess up slightly and die…
And duels really only have 2 settings being Skirmish and sparring which again both kinda skewer the results as dim returns makes
Some people have tried using arena but to get a "slightly" stronger champ usually you have to either start an infinite (especially when going for repeated tries) and then you have to use refills on him and mix the other 2 hoping to find a diverse roster to put him against while also making sure at least 2 win so you get to keep the infinite which costs units to refill the single champ
It's VERY hard to find ways to test all contingencies that is fair to what's often a 3/30 especially vs newer champs as they are harder to find except in those high 5* duels or master/Act5 which…
We just need some clarity
Heck I'd be down for making
"if Drax starts a combo with a medium attack the first hit CANNOT be evaded"
Just the most annoying thing is finding all the nuance in especially the newer champs like ANYONE past civil war event
There's an entire game worth of content to test. Besides that, there is YouTube and the Forum, both of which have feedback from people that test Champs as they come out. It's not that hard to see if the Stagger stacks or not.
i don't believe you. in a 5 hit combo you can cast stagger and refresh it twice (3 instances of stagger) without much trouble. who are you fighting who's getting 3 buffs while being hit 5 times?
if you bothered to do a 10-20 hit streak, you'd find out pretty easily that his stagger does not stack.