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Shouldn't Mephisto be immune to nova flames as well?

Colonaut123Colonaut123 Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★
Human Torch is by far the most extreme class advantageous champion in the game. Every mystic gets absolutely and completely wrecked, for the simple fact that almost all basic attacks inflict incinerate that will drain you to zero health in no time.

Every mystic? No, not Mephisto. Mephisto doesn't get damage from incinerate. He instead gains power, 12% a second even. So he goes to two or three bars of power in no time. Sadly, he still get wrecked as as soon he has seven incinerates, nova flame passives are applied. They do not count as incinerate for Mephisto, but does count for incinerate debuffs for Human Torch.

So Mephisto, the lord of hell, gets burned to the ground. Ironic or comics-wise ridiculous? If you ask me, the latter. As Human Torch is so good against mystic champions, it is okay if one mystic champion still has a chance to face him, and if one should be, it should be Mephisto (and Ghost Rider, THE FREAKIN MAN IS ON FIRE, HOW CAN HE BURN EVEN MORE! INCINERATE IMMUNITY NOW!).

I think there are two alternatives:
  1. Mephisto treats nova flame passives the same as incinerate debuffs, gaining power but having all other adverse effects (zero block proficiency, no perfect block chance, power sting).
  2. Mephisto simply converts every incinerate debuff into an aura of incineration, preventing the formation of nova flames in the first place. This also means he doesn't suffer from the adverse effects of incinerate.
Personally, I like option two more as that is the best solution in the long run. There are other champions who incinerate as well and there will be ones in the future.

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    Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,764 ★★★★★
    Nova flames deals energy damage, which mephisto isn't immune to
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    Nova flames deals energy damage, which mephisto isn't immune to

    Incinerate is energy damage as well.
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    Colonaut123Colonaut123 Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★

    Nova flames deals energy damage, which mephisto isn't immune to

    Mephisto never had "immunity to energy damage", he can perfectly get shocked. His immunity was always based on heat. You can't coldsnap/frostbite him, and incinerate empowers him. I like that mechanic as it isn't just a dull immunity, but now it bites him in the a$$.
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    Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,764 ★★★★★
    Belfigor said:

    Nova flames deals energy damage, which mephisto isn't immune to

    lol...yea fire is not energy...the sun is not energy...
    johnny cant burn mephisto, hellfire is much hotter than a supernova
    That's not it. The "Nova flames" passives that Human Torch procs deal energy damage.They are not incinerate debuffs or incinerate effects at all.
    Mephisto does not interact with these, as intended
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    Colonaut123Colonaut123 Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★

    Belfigor said:

    Nova flames deals energy damage, which mephisto isn't immune to

    lol...yea fire is not energy...the sun is not energy...
    johnny cant burn mephisto, hellfire is much hotter than a supernova
    That's not it. The "Nova flames" passives that Human Torch procs deal energy damage.They are not incinerate debuffs or incinerate effects at all.
    Mephisto does not interact with these, as intended
    Ability description states that nova flames do act like incinerates for Human Torch, so why wouldn't they be for Mephisto? Yeah, they are hotter than normal, but Mephisto doesn't care as he is used to hellfire which burns souls.
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    Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Posts: 13,764 ★★★★★

    Belfigor said:

    Nova flames deals energy damage, which mephisto isn't immune to

    lol...yea fire is not energy...the sun is not energy...
    johnny cant burn mephisto, hellfire is much hotter than a supernova
    That's not it. The "Nova flames" passives that Human Torch procs deal energy damage.They are not incinerate debuffs or incinerate effects at all.
    Mephisto does not interact with these, as intended
    Ability description states that nova flames do act like incinerates for Human Torch, so why wouldn't they be for Mephisto? Yeah, they are hotter than normal, but Mephisto doesn't care as he is used to hellfire which burns souls.
    Is not about being hotter or not, since that is irrelevant in the game.
    What that description says basically, is that Human Torch's abilities will interact with both his incinerate debuffs and his passive nova flames. Not that actually his passive nova flame's are considered incinerate debuffs
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    DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 18,687 Guardian
    Belfigor said:

    Ghostrider can stand in the center of the sun like nothing, but he still take burn damage, it is kabam logic as game balance

    He also takes damage from punches. Get over it.
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