Venom the duck new blade?

Timros

Is he the new MUST have champ?

Savio444

No.... JK! Yes he is!

Ney

Mirage_Turtle

Venom the Duck is cool. He's also VERY useful in the recently released Variant #2. He's a lot of fun to use and is great for questing content.

That said, he's been out for over 6 months and seems to only now be catching people's attention...and I think it's mostly because his utility in Variant #2. On the flip side, Blade's benefit was obvious to everyone as soon as he was released and it wasn't long before he was the top champ of about 75 of the top 100 summoners on the leaderboard.

The question is...is he the new MUST HAVE champ. I'd say no. Blade changed the landscape of Alliance War and kabam bent their own rules when offering his crystal not once, but twice simply because he was so desired by summoners upon his release.

Venom the Duck is great, I love his design, and he was SUPER helpful in finishing Variant #2. But the splash he has made since entering the contest is nothing compared to what happened when Blade entered. Plus outside of Variant #2, there's not a piece of content I can think of where VtD is better than all other champs.

He's great, but not a "Must Have'.

shadow_lurker22

No he is better than Blade

Lorussuel

I got him 6* but still havent used him, what makes him so special? And does he need dup?

Physology101

I guess his toxic armour.

Ahitlaw

Yes he is!

Definitely better than blade

Thicco_Mode

Why is blade so good?

The_One

Lorussuel said:

I got him 6* but still havent used him, what makes him so special? And does he need dup?

No he doesn't need it.
It's nice but not needed.
Check out some gameplay videos and enjoy your tank

XxLoganTDCxX

@Thicco_Mode He isn't. He is overrated.

Timros

Yes he is!

I'm seeing alot of yes' on this post.

Don't see alot of mention about his regen. Which is phenomenal btw.

Mitchell35

No.... JK! Yes he is!

I NEED HIMMMMM




*whimper*

Arbiter2426

Yes he is!

Hes great for questing, my 5* rank 4 is my best champ and gets me through uncollected with 400 damage bleeds, power gain, 4k crits and amazing regeneration, only bad part is getting the first 3 buffs you want on him due to the rng aspect

G0311

Yes he is!

I love mine, awaken 5* at R4, on AW all day.

LeNoirFaineant

Timros said:

I'm seeing alot of yes' on this post.
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I'm sure the fact that there are no options for anything but yes has nothing to do with that lol. When we start seeing posts wondering if x is the new VTD you might have a decent case...

Austin555555

In some cases he is. In some cases he’s not. You need to fight as VTD to get buffs in the RNA back, you can get 3 each fight. Once he has 10, he can be a monster. Better for offense than defense. Blade can regen but it costs power, his SP2 causes a lot of damage and same for his SP3. VTD has regen better depending on how many R buffs you have in the RNA bank.

They both have their uses and faults.

Timros

Yes he is!

The thing about blade is this, you have to hold block to heal, then dodge in hopes they won't just knock down the small bits of life you just gained. Rinse and repeat. It's a pain. Vtd, his regen just activates without doing anymore than just kicking butt because hes just that good. When he feels like it, he'll throw some siphon up on ya. For good measure, toss in an occasional L2 for some real pain. The duck eats blade for breakfast.

Timros

Yes he is!

Seriously though, the only drawback people are consistently mentioning is his ramp up. 3 fights. 3 fights! Hey, if your having trouble getting him past 3 fights to get him into complete domination monster mode, you don't deserve to have him.
Hes a tank with an attitude. He may be too much for the average Joe to handle, and that's ok! That's what the blades and archangels are there for. It takes a certain kind of appreciation and respect to use him. A certain kind of class. Not everyone can have it, but those that do, they know. They know.

Austin555555

Timros said:

Seriously though, the only drawback people are consistently mentioning is his ramp up. 3 fights. 3 fights! Hey, if your having trouble getting him past 3 fights to get him into complete domination monster mode, you don't deserve to have him.
Hes a tank with an attitude. He may be too much for the average Joe to handle, and that's ok! That's what the blades and archangels are there for. It takes a certain kind of appreciation and respect to use him. A certain kind of class. Not everyone can have it, but those that do, they know. They know.

The drawback with the 3 fights is getting the wrong buffs to activate and gotta wait longer for the right buff, it’s a pain especially in AQ.

Jaded

Austin555555 said:

Timros said:

Seriously though, the only drawback people are consistently mentioning is his ramp up. 3 fights. 3 fights! Hey, if your having trouble getting him past 3 fights to get him into complete domination monster mode, you don't deserve to have him.
Hes a tank with an attitude. He may be too much for the average Joe to handle, and that's ok! That's what the blades and archangels are there for. It takes a certain kind of appreciation and respect to use him. A certain kind of class. Not everyone can have it, but those that do, they know. They know.

The drawback with the 3 fights is getting the wrong buffs to activate and gotta wait longer for the right buff, it’s a pain especially in AQ.

Aq fights can be timed out. Typically if I can get at least one regen buff in the first fight it’s better to time out. Multiple the regen buff. Time out again, then go full beast mode.

Even if you don’t get the offensive buffs you want. All the regen in the world allows him to time out fights in aq as you wish.

Austin555555

Jaded said:

Austin555555 said:

Timros said:

Seriously though, the only drawback people are consistently mentioning is his ramp up. 3 fights. 3 fights! Hey, if your having trouble getting him past 3 fights to get him into complete domination monster mode, you don't deserve to have him.
Hes a tank with an attitude. He may be too much for the average Joe to handle, and that's ok! That's what the blades and archangels are there for. It takes a certain kind of appreciation and respect to use him. A certain kind of class. Not everyone can have it, but those that do, they know. They know.

The drawback with the 3 fights is getting the wrong buffs to activate and gotta wait longer for the right buff, it’s a pain especially in AQ.

Aq fights can be timed out. Typically if I can get at least one regen buff in the first fight it’s better to time out. Multiple the regen buff. Time out again, then go full beast mode.

Even if you don’t get the offensive buffs you want. All the regen in the world allows him to time out fights in aq as you wish.

For the time I have had VTD, I have never thought of that.

Duke_Silver

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King_Garf

Timros said:

Seriously though, the only drawback people are consistently mentioning is his ramp up. 3 fights. 3 fights! Hey, if your having trouble getting him past 3 fights to get him into complete domination monster mode, you don't deserve to have him.
Hes a tank with an attitude. He may be too much for the average Joe to handle, and that's ok! That's what the blades and archangels are there for. It takes a certain kind of appreciation and respect to use him. A certain kind of class. Not everyone can have it, but those that do, they know. They know.

If you really think that waiting for a buff to apply and using a special is some crazy high end skill then you’re nuts. Only thing that I would say is right about him needed a certain kind of appreciation and respect is that he’s an acquired taste like Morningstar and masacre. Also don’t forget that it can be more than 3 fights if you don’t get the right buffs and in certain content that can get really annoying when you don’t have a lot of time like in AQ where he’s popular.

Ahitlaw

Yes he is!

Drooped2 said:

New over rated boring champ to play?

Venom the duck brings excitement for me. How dare you!

Ahitlaw

Yes he is!

at R3 he took out act 5 Ultron in less than 45 seconds. Probably much quicker. The entirety of 5.3 and 5.4 no potions needed. Destroys stun immunes and out regens DOT debuffs and passive degens on bleed immune. Dude is a goat. Deal wit it

King_Garf

Timros said:

The thing about blade is this, you have to hold block to heal, then dodge in hopes they won't just knock down the small bits of life you just gained. Rinse and repeat. It's a pain.

With a decent level in blades sig, he gets a lot of health for a short amount of time that is easily obtained. If you know how to dash back, you won’t lose any health. As for losing power with it, you gain a lot of power from his bleeds which actually can help cancel out the power being taken away from the regen. It’s saved me multiple times in AQ and in questing when I was low and brought my health up very quickly. Blades regen is only very helpful because of its reliability. When you’re below 70%, you can use it any time you have power. No other champ has that reliable of a regen, especially vtd which you need to get the buff then use the sp3 to get it again.

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Ahitlaw

Yes he is!

I still love blade tho! Wish duck could lower ability accuracy but that’d be too op

Kerneas

Mirage_Turtle said:

Venom the Duck is cool. He's also VERY useful in the recently released Variant #2. He's a lot of fun to use and is great for questing content.

That said, he's been out for over 6 months and seems to only now be catching people's attention...and I think it's mostly because his utility in Variant #2. On the flip side, Blade's benefit was obvious to everyone as soon as he was released and it wasn't long before he was the top champ of about 75 of the top 100 summoners on the leaderboard.

The question is...is he the new MUST HAVE champ. I'd say no. Blade changed the landscape of Alliance War and kabam bent their own rules when offering his crystal not once, but twice simply because he was so desired by summoners upon his release.

Venom the Duck is great, I love his design, and he was SUPER helpful in finishing Variant #2. But the splash he has made since entering the contest is nothing compared to what happened when Blade entered. Plus outside of Variant #2, there's not a piece of content I can think of where VtD is better than all other champs.

He's great, but not a "Must Have'.

He is great for lower Tier AQ (map 3-5 early days) or just for anything with armor. His SP2 devastates all armor nodes. But I agree, he isn't "must have"

ẞlооd

A huge part of what makes Blade so good is the trinity, which I've noticed hasn't been mentioned.. Danger sense is an extremely useful ability when beefed up.

That being said, I haven't used VtD so I can't say either way.