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Tyrannus

Take 0 offence please mods of Kabam but just like to know why things in this game now is money based when your advertised as a free to play company
Cause ever since netmarble took control things are getting bad

Kobster84

They technically are a f2p game

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Terra

Kobster is correct here. It's F2P. Kabam doesn't force you to pay money. You can play the entire game through and through without spending a dime. And Also I didn't know they're were called water-cooler inc. *The more you know star flies overhead*

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Eb0ny-O-M4w

Tyrannus said:

Just curious why 90-99% of resources needed which should be free all time like revives higher health pots gems 4-5 even6* are not available in quests only in the most difficult ones without you having to buy so not really free to play

That information is wrong. Only a few little things in the game are pay 2 win (deadpool OG offer, for example).
Revives and HP pots? Completely farmable, but you can also buy them if you want to. Awakening and rank up gems? Same thing, but since they are far more valuable they will be more rare and expensive

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Zuro

UmbertoDelRio said:

Tyrannus said:

Just curious why 90-99% of resources needed which should be free all time like revives higher health pots gems 4-5 even6* are not available in quests only in the most difficult ones without you having to buy so not really free to play

Lol I'm f2p. Tell me about a ressource I can't get.
Sure it might take a little longer in some cases, but that's not generally the case. I'm sure there are at least somewhat hardcore spending players that aren't skilled enough to 100% the uc event every month. So at the end of the day I can still get more t5b, t2a, etc. than them.
Once I finish 6.1 I can even buy cavalier crystals after some arena rounds. If someone wants to pay 100$ to get a handful of them, why should I be bothered?

If you're f2p one thing you weren't able to get were the 6 star sig stones as they required currency

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Zuro

UmbertoDelRio said:

Zuro said:

UmbertoDelRio said:

Tyrannus said:

Just curious why 90-99% of resources needed which should be free all time like revives higher health pots gems 4-5 even6* are not available in quests only in the most difficult ones without you having to buy so not really free to play

Lol I'm f2p. Tell me about a ressource I can't get.
Sure it might take a little longer in some cases, but that's not generally the case. I'm sure there are at least somewhat hardcore spending players that aren't skilled enough to 100% the uc event every month. So at the end of the day I can still get more t5b, t2a, etc. than them.
Once I finish 6.1 I can even buy cavalier crystals after some arena rounds. If someone wants to pay 100$ to get a handful of them, why should I be bothered?

If you're f2p one thing you weren't able to get were the 6 star sig stones as they required currency

That's a good point actually. So there's one ressource I can't have yet, emphasis on yet. But seeing how I would need a duped 6* worth pouring stones into to even make use of those, them being only available through spending doesn't seem like a game changer.

Although it is not a huge game change it still increases the gap just a bit more between whales and f2p

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Tyrannus said:

Ok so revives are available in quests yeah ok health pots ok if your lucky to get those in quests if you do there lvl 1-2 pretty useless when using r4 5* and your 6* since I do a lot of quests yes I do know what I’m talking about in general terms

You can farm lvl 3 pots, and even lvl 4 on some ocasions. It doesn't matter how many you want to use, you can farm them whenever you want. No one is forcing you to buy them

Zuro

will-o-wisp said:

Tyrannus said:

Ok so revives are available in quests yeah ok health pots ok if your lucky to get those in quests if you do there lvl 1-2 pretty useless when using r4 5* and your 6* since I do a lot of quests yes I do know what I’m talking about in general terms

You can farm lvl 3 pots, and even lvl 4 on some ocasions. It doesn't matter how many you want to use, you can farm them whenever you want. No one is forcing you to buy them

But finding these pots are not guaranteed value buying it is

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Eb0ny-O-M4w

Tyrannus said:

@will-o-wisp show us where then apart from rol lvl 3 pots not a guarantee tho you get them lvl 4 never came across one yet in a quest or your playing a completely different Mcoc to everyone else

Why would you discard rol? Guaranteed or not doesn't matter. It has a high chance, just go there and spend your time in order to get something. Don't expect it for free without giving any of your effort to get them.
Point is, you can get almost everything in the game without spending a single cent. I don't think you are a newbie player in order to not understand it

Zuro

UmbertoDelRio said:

Zuro said:

UmbertoDelRio said:

Zuro said:

UmbertoDelRio said:

Tyrannus said:

Just curious why 90-99% of resources needed which should be free all time like revives higher health pots gems 4-5 even6* are not available in quests only in the most difficult ones without you having to buy so not really free to play

Lol I'm f2p. Tell me about a ressource I can't get.
Sure it might take a little longer in some cases, but that's not generally the case. I'm sure there are at least somewhat hardcore spending players that aren't skilled enough to 100% the uc event every month. So at the end of the day I can still get more t5b, t2a, etc. than them.
Once I finish 6.1 I can even buy cavalier crystals after some arena rounds. If someone wants to pay 100$ to get a handful of them, why should I be bothered?

If you're f2p one thing you weren't able to get were the 6 star sig stones as they required currency

That's a good point actually. So there's one ressource I can't have yet, emphasis on yet. But seeing how I would need a duped 6* worth pouring stones into to even make use of those, them being only available through spending doesn't seem like a game changer.

Although it is not a huge game change it still increases the gap just a bit more between whales and f2p

The impact that has on your own game is highly dependent on whether or not you're even trying to compete with those whales, though.

Let me put it this way, those sig stones aside, money gets you forward faster to some extend. A player that has both the skill and the money will eventually get to the top. A f2p player can basically only rely on their skill and needs to put in more time IF they want to play competitive.

This is like an open street racing. The people that can afford the biggest cars, or in most cases are willing to invest that much, will have the best chances at making it to the top. There's nothing shady about that it's how our world currently works.

I know that's how the world works like for me I play at my own pace but there is probably someone who is trying to compete with these whales in like war or something and they feel there is nothing they can do if they don't put money into the game which shouldnt be the case

Zuro

will-o-wisp said:

Tyrannus said:

@will-o-wisp show us where then apart from rol lvl 3 pots not a guarantee tho you get them lvl 4 never came across one yet in a quest or your playing a completely different Mcoc to everyone else

Why would you discard rol? Guaranteed or not doesn't matter. It has a high chance, just go there and spend your time in order to get something. Don't expect it for free without giving any of your effort to get them.
Point is, you can get almost everything in the game without spending a single cent. I don't think you are a newbie player in order to not understand it

Yeah but not all players can beat RoL I van personally but for those who are weaker and need to farm pots are probably struggling to do so

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Zuro said:

will-o-wisp said:

Tyrannus said:

@will-o-wisp show us where then apart from rol lvl 3 pots not a guarantee tho you get them lvl 4 never came across one yet in a quest or your playing a completely different Mcoc to everyone else

Why would you discard rol? Guaranteed or not doesn't matter. It has a high chance, just go there and spend your time in order to get something. Don't expect it for free without giving any of your effort to get them.
Point is, you can get almost everything in the game without spending a single cent. I don't think you are a newbie player in order to not understand it

Yeah but not all players can beat RoL I van personally but for those who are weaker and need to farm pots are probably struggling to do so

Those players aren't yet in need of a big amount of pots. They can get a few lvl 2 pots on some quests and thats enough to full their champions

Kobster84

Zuro said:

will-o-wisp said:

Tyrannus said:

@will-o-wisp show us where then apart from rol lvl 3 pots not a guarantee tho you get them lvl 4 never came across one yet in a quest or your playing a completely different Mcoc to everyone else

Why would you discard rol? Guaranteed or not doesn't matter. It has a high chance, just go there and spend your time in order to get something. Don't expect it for free without giving any of your effort to get them.
Point is, you can get almost everything in the game without spending a single cent. I don't think you are a newbie player in order to not understand it

Yeah but not all players can beat RoL I van personally but for those who are weaker and need to farm pots are probably struggling to do so

If your at a level where you need that many health pots you should be able to kill rol ws

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Terra

You are impossible to reason with. Wisp and Kob have given good reasons why and how the game works as it does

Kobster84

Tyrannus said:

This thread is getting over heated I’m definitely not a noob I helped kobster become elders bane just can’t post in game name I’m just saying a free to play game should allow you to farm relevant resources which Kabam has taken 95% of that away so I think @Kabam Miike etc can close thread I’m just so tired of grinding quests where these resources should be available so no it’s not free to play

Thanks for that btw
But I get what your saying like for instance t5b outside of a map 7 ally it’s basically impossible to get quickly
Kabam could sort this by adding hard events that you can earn t5b in as not everyone is willing to grind arena for map 7 donations

KittenPrime

Unless you’re aiming to be in top of the top alliances MCOC (and TFTF) are both free to play. You don’t HAVE to spend money on them.

Dshu

Kobster84 said:

Tyrannus said:

This thread is getting over heated I’m definitely not a noob I helped kobster become elders bane just can’t post in game name I’m just saying a free to play game should allow you to farm relevant resources which Kabam has taken 95% of that away so I think @Kabam Miike etc can close thread I’m just so tired of grinding quests where these resources should be available so no it’s not free to play

Thanks for that btw
But I get what your saying like for instance t5b outside of a map 7 ally it’s basically impossible to get quickly
Kabam could sort this by adding hard events that you can earn t5b in as not everyone is willing to grind arena for map 7 donations

It's not just about having to grind arenas. If you want map 7 you have to do aw which is a terrible return on your time and resources invested.

Kabam Vydious

This thread definitely started to get heated in a direction it didn't need to. The game is definitely something that can be Free to Play on anyone's choosing. Many players are F2P. Let's try to avoid conversations that are going to start inflammatory discussions on the forums, please.