Omega Red, why the love?

Is the reason why everyone loves Omega Red so much because he is perfect for suicides? Using him with normal masteries and I just don't see where he is all that special. Not trashing him but I'm just trying to figure out if my 4 star is worth taking to rank 5.

He doesn't do a ton of damage and can't take a hit super well either. Also, his regeneration isn't that great when compared to some other champs. It's got to be his perfection to suicide masteries make him great? Or am I missing something?

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BenQcSlayer

Omega needs to be duped and high sig level plus on suicide mastery’s.

Demonzfyre

Doesn't necessarily need suicides...

https://youtu.be/dqRR_0LTVSQ

DNA3000

Is the reason why everyone loves Omega Red so much because he is perfect for suicides? Using him with normal masteries and I just don't see where he is all that special. Not trashing him but I'm just trying to figure out if my 4 star is worth taking to rank 5.

He doesn't do a ton of damage and can't take a hit super well either. Also, his regeneration isn't that great when compared to some other champs. It's got to be his perfection to suicide masteries make him great? Or am I missing something?

I think you're looking at the pieces and not the whole. If you look at Void through the same lens, he has no regen, doesn't deal a lot of damage, lots of champs have heal block, and there are a lot of power control champs that are better. But taken as a whole, Void is an extremely powerful champ because in practice the way he works is extremely useful in a lot of situations, and not all of them are obvious. For example, heal reversal is obvious. Power control is somewhat obvious. But what does he give you when you're fighting, say, IMIW? Well, by the time IMIW gets down to his (awakened) ability to autoblock with a single armor stack, Void probably has a ton of debuffs stacked up and IMIW has no immunity to Void's passive debuff damage. So right when IMIW is most dangerous, you just step back and watch him melt. Void has no particular ability to counter autoblock, except for the fact he doesn't actually have to hit you to kill you.

Omega Red is immune to poison, practically immune to bleed, and has a heal. There are not many multiply immune things that also heal. He also mitigates opponents with strike back damage: all tentacle hits suppress strike back damage on contact. And he can deal passive damage over time with his spores. That specific combination of abilities is unusual and makes him situationally very useful. *And* he interacts well with suicides.

Demonzfyre

Some things to be aware of-
1. Hes not bleed immune, just reduces its effectiveness by 90%.
2. Be aware of some nodes that make you bleed and the opponent is Void. Void will melt you even if the bleed is reduced.
3. He isnt the hardest hitter in the game but I more effective when spores are on the opponent to deal damage.
4. Try to use L2's vs L1's unless you are trying to heal.
5. His spores can't be effected by ability reduction.

Woozie

He is great for more end game content so 4* aren't as popular as due to this.
Amazing for biohazard paths (Act 6/Map 6) especially with willpower as you are taking almost no damage but are healing, is basically double immune but when duped you can stack your spores against the enemy (which you get by being close to them from you attacking them or vice-versa) once reaching 10 and at 4/55 and sig 80 it becomes 680 damage per second standing next to them.
Once death field is active from bleeding or sp2 (suicides) this damage stacks additionally.

KG05_1

Mine is 4/55 sig 85 and he’s a monster. Once you get his sp2 death field going the spores can do crazy damage per second, even if you mess up and he’s hitting you. He’ll still take tons of damage while being close to you

Pazinator

Is he still that great without suicides though? I just got one and debating if he’s worth it. I have a r2 6* Corvus, r5 ghost, r5CAIW and 6* Emma (who I use in AQ).

Secondary question is it worth getting suicide masteries?

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Bpn88855

Have him 5*r4 130 sig, without suicides i dont see that he is better than others. still debating if i want him to r5, without suicides seems no

KG05_1

Suicides are great unless you do wars often. Your war defenders will suffer a LOT from suicides

10or_Strong

Suicides are great unless you do wars often. Your war defenders will suffer a LOT from suicides

True, unless you use war defenders that can either negate or benefit from suicides.

As to Omega Red, he definitely shines most with suicides (I try to save up to turn them on at the start of each month for the Uncollected EQ, since he melts most content, and then turn them off after I 100% UC difficulty). However, he is still one of my favorites to use without suicides. A solid strategy (for longer fights) is to hit them with an SP2 to activate death field. This allows your max spore count to go from 10 to 30. Play aggressive to get as many spores on them as you can, then hit them with a heavy right before death field expires. This adds a degen to them AND prevents sporrs from falling off while the degen is active. Time some parry / heavies right as you rebuild your power and you can keep a high number of spores on them up to your SP3. Drop that with a high spore count and watch the MASSIVE regen. The only issue with this approach is that fights don't often last long enough. In those cases, for the first part, and when you have the high spore count after the SP2 hit them with am SP1. It will clear your spores but also do a decent regen still.

To the OP, with both Corvus and Omega Red, suicides may be worth investing in as they are two of the best champs to use with suicides. Those two together can tackle just about anything.