Furthermore spite is operating boosted to 54% of a bar yes however each stack exhaustion reduces the base value, 4.5% of the original 18%. Weird how that again takes 12 stacks due to the math. 🤷🏻♂️
do me a favor and read what i wrote or how about going to the node in question and reading what it says.
I did, you didn’t account for DS’s passive power gain boosted to 300% by the 200% power gain effects node, you need 12 stacks to shut it down. Don’t know why you insist on being wrong about both the node and LC.
clearly you didn't. I find it amusing how you are arguing a point and can't even read the node properly or the mechanics in play.
Let me spell it out( take note of bold characters)
The node says increase POWER RECEIVED from power gain effects by 200%
this is not increase the power gain effectiveness by 200% but the actual amount of power the defender gets. so in the spite example the amount of power gained would become 54% of a bar of power which the defender receives 100% of that power.
Luke cage's ability which again you obviously can't read says
The opponents POWER GAIN EFFECTS are reduced by 25% per stack.
I'm pretty sure that all nodes currently in the game increase the power gained and not its effectiveness. Even if that isn't the case in this situation the effectiveness of DS passive power gain and Spites power gain is at 100%, which means 4 stacks would reduce that to 0 which means no power is gained from that effect, which means 200% incraese to that power should result in 0 power.
Your second response is exactly what i said was most likely happening in how the calculation is being done in that its calculating the 18% then the 36% but only applying the exhaustion to the 18% which is wrong.
You are wrong in pretty much everything you wrote in here. on top of that you still can't seem to read the node description and understand how it should work.
Just leave it be, let someone at kabam deal with this BUG
I am going by what the node says and by LC mechanics. The node doesn't say it increases the power gain effect percentage which is what you are all arguing is going on. It increases the power your receive from the effect.
Am i wrong in what this node is describing ? No
Is it working as described ? No
Is the OP entitled to assume this is a bug ? Yes
By your arguments if you take a domino in against say a Hyperion with this node, he should never not proc his power gain because -15% reduction on + 200% would still leave a +185% right
you didn't even understand the domino thing. If Hyperions power gain effect has been increased by 100% so its now 100+100% why is -15% reduction still applying when his power gain effect should be at 185% by your logic
I’m clueless? Dude read the OP post and the first 5 comments it explains all that And look at the SS it says that too He gets increased power not AA You say “your lógic” as if it were wrong The problem is you can’t understand something so simple or you are to stubborn to quit and rather you keep forcing yourself not too
you just posted and said that node increases power gain its the exact same node apart from with a bigger percentage
please share a pic of where it says "power gain effects are increased by x amount " instead of "power received from power gain effects is increased by x amount"
Until then I'm out of this merry go round
I'm much more experienced player then you that's for sure
please share a pic of where it says "power gain effects are increased by x amount " instead of "power received from power gain effects is increased by x amount"
Until then I'm out of this merry go round
I'm much more experienced player then you that's for sure
Well you aren’t that experienced. Then with all you said is wrong. This node said it all
please share a pic of where it says "power gain effects are increased by x amount " instead of "power received from power gain effects is increased by x amount"
Until then I'm out of this merry go round
I'm much more experienced player then you that's for sure
Well you aren’t that experienced. Then with all you said is wrong. This node said it all
it says exactly what i have been saying which is power received is affected.
honestly can people not read the RECEIVED part of that node
please share a pic of where it says "power gain effects are increased by x amount " instead of "power received from power gain effects is increased by x amount"
Until then I'm out of this merry go round
I'm much more experienced player then you that's for sure
Those literally mean the name thing And you’re definitely not get off your high horse and your ego, and actually read what the whole post was about rather than assume nonsense Like what were you thinking when you mentioned domino S o much wrong
no they don't mean the same thing
The domino example was to do with your argument that somehow the power gain effect now is at 300%.
please share a pic of where it says "power gain effects are increased by x amount " instead of "power received from power gain effects is increased by x amount"
Until then I'm out of this merry go round
I'm much more experienced player then you that's for sure
Well you aren’t that experienced. Then with all you said is wrong. This node said it all
it says exactly what i have been saying which is power received is affected.
honestly can people not read the RECEIVED part of that node
Well received from pover gian effort read the whole part and no one line as @Squishyjrthe4th said shutting it down because what we said already Ben right you wrong
Well hate to break it to you but the community are not the authority on these matters, so until a Mod responds or investigates and explains what is happening with the interaction, then everything we assume to be right is wrong and this is still a potential bug.
Asking for threads to be closed is really of poor taste since this really isn't your thread and has no real impact on your ability to play or enjoy the game but is something which impacts another player.
Well hate to break it to you but the community are not the authority on these matters, so until a Mod responds or investigates and explains what is happening with the interaction, then everything we assume to be right is wrong and this is still a potential bug.
Asking for threads to be closed is really of poor taste since this really isn't your thread and has no real impact on your ability to play or enjoy the game but is something which impacts another player.
Well then we wait for a mod to com and said a words and if he then decide to clouse. It.
Somewhere along the lines LC’s exhaustion debuff description was changed to what it states today which is not what exhaustion does. This is responsible for the difference in understanding of function and effect.
Photo’s from his spotlight and review after his buff.
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Let me spell it out( take note of bold characters)
The node says increase POWER RECEIVED from power gain effects by 200%
this is not increase the power gain effectiveness by 200% but the actual amount of power the defender gets.
so in the spite example the amount of power gained would become 54% of a bar of power which the defender receives 100% of that power.
Luke cage's ability which again you obviously can't read says
The opponents POWER GAIN EFFECTS are reduced by 25% per stack.
I'm pretty sure that all nodes currently in the game increase the power gained and not its effectiveness. Even if that isn't the case in this situation the effectiveness of DS passive power gain and Spites power gain is at 100%, which means 4 stacks would reduce that to 0 which means no power is gained from that effect, which means 200% incraese to that power should result in 0 power.
Your second response is exactly what i said was most likely happening in how the calculation is being done in that its calculating the 18% then the 36% but only applying the exhaustion to the 18% which is wrong.
You are wrong in pretty much everything you wrote in here. on top of that you still can't seem to read the node description and understand how it should work.
Just leave it be, let someone at kabam deal with this BUG
have you actually read what i have put?
I am going by what the node says and by LC mechanics.
The node doesn't say it increases the power gain effect percentage which is what you are all arguing is going on. It increases the power your receive from the effect.
Am i wrong in what this node is describing ? No
Is it working as described ? No
Is the OP entitled to assume this is a bug ? Yes
By your arguments if you take a domino in against say a Hyperion with this node, he should never not proc his power gain because -15% reduction on + 200% would still leave a +185% right
oh look
timestamp 23:37
Domino procs critical failure multiple times on this node but Hyperion has 100+100 -15 =185 right.
Like i said the reason its probably not working as its suggested is due to how it is programmed to be calculated.
which like other nodes is usually
power gained = (18% - (100% reduction) + (18% * 200%)
instead of being
power gained = (18% * 300%) - (100% reduction)
please post a screen shot that states this instead of it increasing power received.
thats two different mechanics
You second post with the node description is exactly the same as the OP is talking about apart from instead of 100% gain its 200% gain
instead of "power received from power gain effects is increased by x amount"
Until then I'm out of this merry go round
I'm much more experienced player then you that's for sure
This node said it all
honestly can people not read the RECEIVED part of that node
The domino example was to do with your argument that somehow the power gain effect now is at 300%.
Asking for threads to be closed is really of poor taste since this really isn't your thread and has no real impact on your ability to play or enjoy the game but is something which impacts another player.
Photo’s from his spotlight and review after his buff.