@Kabam Miike Please, please, please let us know if the team have heard the overwhelmingly popular suggestion of advancing 5 stars to 6 stars. I'm not asking you to agree to implement it, but at least let us know you've put it on the table for discussion with the team.
Miike, please answer this. Stop avoiding this suggestion.
We can't even max 5* champs yet. Hold off a year or two before introducing a new tier of champs and bring more exiting content to the game.
#newcontentNOT6stars
We can't even max 5* champs yet. Hold off a year or two before introducing a new tier of champs and bring more exiting content to the game.
#newcontentNOT6stars
We can't even max 5* champs yet. Hold off a year or two before introducing a new tier of champs and bring more exiting content to the game.
#newcontentNOT6stars
6 stars ARE being added in a year, dingus.
Probably in 6 months.
1-2% of the player-base will be able to play with their rank 5 5*s for 10 minutes before 6*s are released.That's not progression that's a rush job.
My 2 cents. First, the current state:
1. It's pretty much universal that no one is looking forward to the 6 star Hulkbuster, Luke Cage, Spider Gwen, etc. Even if you improve these characters so that they're usable, they're still pretty boring.
2. A lot of people have invested a lot of resources in their 5-star roster, and aren't happy about those being made to feel worthless.
3. The big complaint in AW is that you see the same heroes again & again. MD boosts this as well, although it's worth adding that y'all are taking steps to fix this with the scoring mechanism change.
Proposal:
As others have said, I'd suggest that 6 stars (or 7 stars if the 6 stars are already set and in-flight) should be different animals than just a bumped up 5 star. They would benefit from the following: 1. "SUPER" heros or villains.
No recycled champs. All new ones that are clearly in the God-like/near omnipotent/mastermind category. I'm also open to Dr Strange, SWitch, Wolverine, & the other 4-star-only group getting a 2nd life as a 6 star, but the majority of them are the real powerful champs. Some ideas: Cosmic: Thanos, Galactus, Dark Phoenix, Rune King Thor
Mutant: Professor X (fighting with some sort of astral projection and not in a wheelchair, of course), Apocalypse, Sebastian Shaw
Tech: Dr Doom, Grandmaster, Collector, Kang
Mystic: Odin, Frigga, The Ancient One, The Enchantress
Science: MODOK, Red Skull, Molecule Man, Maestro
Skill: Nick Fury, Agent Coulson, Viper
This still leaves lots of heroes like Dazzler, Heimdall, Mysterio, Moondragon, Mystique, Emma Frost, Sabretooth, Kitty Pryde, Sub-Mariner, Absorbing Man, etc. to keep being released as 3, 4, and 5 stars.
2. Class Synergies rather than individual synergies
Since 6-stars are all new characters, that means 4 & 5 stars don't share synergy with them (there are no matches), so to make up for this, 6 star synergies work with classes, not individuals. For each of the 5 classes that your 6 star is not, you get a synergy if you have a 4 or 5 star of that class on your team. This also means that 6-stars, even of different classes, don't activate each others' synergies. Masterminds don't tend to work too well together, and this gives us a lot more interesting 5-star scenarios (e.g. take 3 6-stars, or 2 6-stars and a 5-star that gives me 2 synergies?). An example would be that a 6-star mystic Odin teamed with a 6 star cosmic Dark Phoenix would not influence each other, but the other 3 5-star team members would pick up synergies from those 2 so long as they're not mystic or cosmic. And each of these synergies should be significant, along the lines of 15-20% attack, 25% power gain, etc.
This can have a huge effect because it would create combinations that would mean going all 6-stars might not be the best team. Maybe 2 5-stars and a 6-star, with the 2 synergies, is a better choice than 2 or 3 6-stars on a team. But it also allows people with only 1 or 2 6-stars compete with people that have 5-10, because they can potentially build a team that can compete. And on stories and AW defense with 5 team members, it creates a huge amount of variety and ways for us to build teams to optimize for situations. And 2 or 3 6-stars on the team of 5 both give you 6 of the huge synergy bonuses (either 2 synergies per 3 5-stars or 3 synergies per 2 5-stars).
3. 5-stars are still useful
Given the big synergy possibilities, and potentially even allowing for rank 6 5-stars (another idea mentioned here that I support), 5-stars could/should still be viable for a while, and would still be the workhorses b/c it's going to be years before someone has 11 (AW-o + AW-d + AQ) or 16 (AW-o + AW-d + AQ + Story) 6-stars to complete their teams.
Anyway, just a few thoughts on how to make the 6-star change a real positive and breathe new life into the game rather than beat us down with repetition. Thanks for reading!
Obsolete is a very strong word here. Did 5-Stars make 4-Stars Obsolete? 6-Stars are not going to be easy to obtain, and then will be more difficult to Rank Up. We have lots more planned before 6-Stars ever make it into Player's hands, and that includes making 5-Stars more accessible.[/quote]
No 5*'s did not make 4*'s obsolete. But they did make 3*'s. So by that logic 6*'s will make all of our 4*'s obsolete. You have sold us on ranking up these champs just to swindle us for a cheap money grab. Be honest now!!
Are 6*'s the last level OR are there plans to go with 7*'s and on???????
We as a community deserve to know your intentions before we spend our hard earned money on this game anymore. I just spent $70 dollars to rank up my 5* iceman. Will he be the new 3* next year when you introduce 7*'s!
I know they aren't coming out now, but in 2018... but still...
Before 6-Stars are introduced to the Contest, we do intend on releasing the Tier 5 Basics that are needed to fully Rank Up 5-Star Champions! Take a look at the post we made, because we've got more information on that in there.
So act 5.3 was just announced, where are those rank up materials that were promised before October? They aren't in the rewards for 5.3.
Now that 6* will be in the game why not put all champs as 5* THOR,WAR MACHINE, SCARLET WITCH - EXCEDRA? Haven't seen an answer to this,and if kabam won't ever released all champs as 5* just like they did with 4* then all I ask is why please?
I don’t see why people are complaining about 6*s being added just because all the 5*s aren’t out? They add new champions every 2 weeks.. for crying out loud new 3*s are being added and 5*s are in the game... also have you experienced duping a 5*? Up until now you got nothing, it was annoying so at least now you can work towards something!
When people brought up the idea of 6 star champs, I thought they were just either making a joke or mentioning a really bad idea.
As has been stated, we currently do not have the ability to max 5 stars, and now 6 stars are announced? I understand that T5 basics are being added and we'll be able to max our 5 stars, but from what I understand, 6 stars will be playable in about 5 months. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculously fast. Upgrading your 5 star in the next 5 months and already they'll be obsolete due to the new 6 stars.
So when will 7 stars be added? And 8 stars? And 9 stars?
I've never complained about the game, and have spent a good deal of money on the game because I enjoyed it. But this may be a deal breaker. Extraordinarily bad timing.
Obsolete is a very strong word here. Did 5-Stars make 4-Stars Obsolete? 6-Stars are not going to be easy to obtain, and then will be more difficult to Rank Up. We have lots more planned before 6-Stars ever make it into Player's hands, and that includes making 5-Stars more accessible.
5 stars ABSOLUTELY made 3*s obsolete. So now 4*s will be obsolete to. So why make us use T4CC to rank them up anymore if they're going to be useless in a few months?
When people brought up the idea of 6 star champs, I thought they were just either making a joke or mentioning a really bad idea.
As has been stated, we currently do not have the ability to max 5 stars, and now 6 stars are announced? I understand that T5 basics are being added and we'll be able to max our 5 stars, but from what I understand, 6 stars will be playable in about 5 months. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculously fast. Upgrading your 5 star in the next 5 months and already they'll be obsolete due to the new 6 stars.
So when will 7 stars be added? And 8 stars? And 9 stars?
I've never complained about the game, and have spent a good deal of money on the game because I enjoyed it. But this may be a deal breaker. Extraordinarily bad timing.
Obsolete is a very strong word here. Did 5-Stars make 4-Stars Obsolete? 6-Stars are not going to be easy to obtain, and then will be more difficult to Rank Up. We have lots more planned before 6-Stars ever make it into Player's hands, and that includes making 5-Stars more accessible.
5 stars ABSOLUTELY made 3*s obsolete. So now 4*s will be obsolete to. So why make us use T4CC to rank them up anymore if they're going to be useless in a few months?
You can do Mastermode with 3* champs 3*s are also used in arena still so I hardly see how they are obsolete...
I don’t see why people are complaining about 6*s being added just because all the 5*s aren’t out? They add new champions every 2 weeks.. for crying out loud new 3*s are being added and 5*s are in the game... also have you experienced duping a 5*? Up until now you got nothing, it was annoying so at least now you can work towards something!
Because 5*s made 3*s obsolete. Now 4*s will be obsolete. You can disagree about that but when new content is created later on, it will be geared toward 5 and 6 stars as far as difficulty.
When people brought up the idea of 6 star champs, I thought they were just either making a joke or mentioning a really bad idea.
As has been stated, we currently do not have the ability to max 5 stars, and now 6 stars are announced? I understand that T5 basics are being added and we'll be able to max our 5 stars, but from what I understand, 6 stars will be playable in about 5 months. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculously fast. Upgrading your 5 star in the next 5 months and already they'll be obsolete due to the new 6 stars.
So when will 7 stars be added? And 8 stars? And 9 stars?
I've never complained about the game, and have spent a good deal of money on the game because I enjoyed it. But this may be a deal breaker. Extraordinarily bad timing.
Obsolete is a very strong word here. Did 5-Stars make 4-Stars Obsolete? 6-Stars are not going to be easy to obtain, and then will be more difficult to Rank Up. We have lots more planned before 6-Stars ever make it into Player's hands, and that includes making 5-Stars more accessible.
5 stars ABSOLUTELY made 3*s obsolete. So now 4*s will be obsolete to. So why make us use T4CC to rank them up anymore if they're going to be useless in a few months?
When people brought up the idea of 6 star champs, I thought they were just either making a joke or mentioning a really bad idea.
As has been stated, we currently do not have the ability to max 5 stars, and now 6 stars are announced? I understand that T5 basics are being added and we'll be able to max our 5 stars, but from what I understand, 6 stars will be playable in about 5 months. I'm sorry, but that's ridiculously fast. Upgrading your 5 star in the next 5 months and already they'll be obsolete due to the new 6 stars.
So when will 7 stars be added? And 8 stars? And 9 stars?
I've never complained about the game, and have spent a good deal of money on the game because I enjoyed it. But this may be a deal breaker. Extraordinarily bad timing.
Obsolete is a very strong word here. Did 5-Stars make 4-Stars Obsolete? 6-Stars are not going to be easy to obtain, and then will be more difficult to Rank Up. We have lots more planned before 6-Stars ever make it into Player's hands, and that includes making 5-Stars more accessible.
5 stars ABSOLUTELY made 3*s obsolete. So now 4*s will be obsolete to. So why make us use T4CC to rank them up anymore if they're going to be useless in a few months?
You can do Mastermode with 3* champs 3*s are also used in arena still so I hardly see how they are obsolete...
You can beat Master with 1*s, too, if you're good enough. But that's user skill, not champion usefulness. You're arguing that they aren't obsolete because it's possible to use them. I can use a typewriter, but it's still obsolete. Computers replaced it.
The addition of 6-stars, I think, is rather uninspired. It weakens the aesthetic of the game. Instead, I would do something like enhancing a 5-star champ in some way when it reaches max sig level - call it ISO SHIFTED. New star color to indicate ISO SHIFTED status. So like red stars instead of silver and then add a new ability for the ISO SHIFTED champ or access to new masteries for ISO SHIFTED champs.
This actually sounds like a really great idea! I'm not against 6*, but this idea really takes the cake. I'm sure many players would support an update to enhance the current 5* champs.
no new content, nothing innovative with the game play? they're just taking existing characters and adding another star to create more "valuable" champs that will take 400+K in gold just to rank up along with 30+ hours of playing to get the catalyst. I'm so excited to be playing 70 hours a week of grinding for maybe 500 six star shards and another six months of alliance questing to get the class catalyst for rank ups. Looks like I'll be buying Odin's vaults to spend on gold crystals.. And if I'm lucky I can try and dupe a six star early 2019. The future looks bright!
I think the reality here with the release of 6* champs is that the content would be too easy once kabam made it possible to r5 a 5* champ. Majority of people with champs at r4 can breeze through most of the content in game so once they release t5b with the end of Act 5 and make it possible to max 5* champ that if future content was released with 5* champs it would be way too easy. The only way they can counter this is to release the 6*. It's not a coincidence that they will be releasing 6* after the introduction of t5b and so when you take all the emotion out of it, it's actually the right thing to do to prevent the game being too easy and boring.
IMO, it would be smart for Kabam to release all the champs they never made into 5-stars as the first group of 6-stars. I think that would actually make a lot of people happy.
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Miike, please answer this. Stop avoiding this suggestion.
#newcontentNOT6stars
6 stars ARE being added in a year, dingus.
Probably in 6 months.
1-2% of the player-base will be able to play with their rank 5 5*s for 10 minutes before 6*s are released.That's not progression that's a rush job.
1. It's pretty much universal that no one is looking forward to the 6 star Hulkbuster, Luke Cage, Spider Gwen, etc. Even if you improve these characters so that they're usable, they're still pretty boring.
2. A lot of people have invested a lot of resources in their 5-star roster, and aren't happy about those being made to feel worthless.
3. The big complaint in AW is that you see the same heroes again & again. MD boosts this as well, although it's worth adding that y'all are taking steps to fix this with the scoring mechanism change.
Proposal:
As others have said, I'd suggest that 6 stars (or 7 stars if the 6 stars are already set and in-flight) should be different animals than just a bumped up 5 star. They would benefit from the following:
1. "SUPER" heros or villains.
No recycled champs. All new ones that are clearly in the God-like/near omnipotent/mastermind category. I'm also open to Dr Strange, SWitch, Wolverine, & the other 4-star-only group getting a 2nd life as a 6 star, but the majority of them are the real powerful champs. Some ideas:
Cosmic: Thanos, Galactus, Dark Phoenix, Rune King Thor
Mutant: Professor X (fighting with some sort of astral projection and not in a wheelchair, of course), Apocalypse, Sebastian Shaw
Tech: Dr Doom, Grandmaster, Collector, Kang
Mystic: Odin, Frigga, The Ancient One, The Enchantress
Science: MODOK, Red Skull, Molecule Man, Maestro
Skill: Nick Fury, Agent Coulson, Viper
This still leaves lots of heroes like Dazzler, Heimdall, Mysterio, Moondragon, Mystique, Emma Frost, Sabretooth, Kitty Pryde, Sub-Mariner, Absorbing Man, etc. to keep being released as 3, 4, and 5 stars.
2. Class Synergies rather than individual synergies
Since 6-stars are all new characters, that means 4 & 5 stars don't share synergy with them (there are no matches), so to make up for this, 6 star synergies work with classes, not individuals. For each of the 5 classes that your 6 star is not, you get a synergy if you have a 4 or 5 star of that class on your team. This also means that 6-stars, even of different classes, don't activate each others' synergies. Masterminds don't tend to work too well together, and this gives us a lot more interesting 5-star scenarios (e.g. take 3 6-stars, or 2 6-stars and a 5-star that gives me 2 synergies?). An example would be that a 6-star mystic Odin teamed with a 6 star cosmic Dark Phoenix would not influence each other, but the other 3 5-star team members would pick up synergies from those 2 so long as they're not mystic or cosmic. And each of these synergies should be significant, along the lines of 15-20% attack, 25% power gain, etc.
This can have a huge effect because it would create combinations that would mean going all 6-stars might not be the best team. Maybe 2 5-stars and a 6-star, with the 2 synergies, is a better choice than 2 or 3 6-stars on a team. But it also allows people with only 1 or 2 6-stars compete with people that have 5-10, because they can potentially build a team that can compete. And on stories and AW defense with 5 team members, it creates a huge amount of variety and ways for us to build teams to optimize for situations. And 2 or 3 6-stars on the team of 5 both give you 6 of the huge synergy bonuses (either 2 synergies per 3 5-stars or 3 synergies per 2 5-stars).
3. 5-stars are still useful
Given the big synergy possibilities, and potentially even allowing for rank 6 5-stars (another idea mentioned here that I support), 5-stars could/should still be viable for a while, and would still be the workhorses b/c it's going to be years before someone has 11 (AW-o + AW-d + AQ) or 16 (AW-o + AW-d + AQ + Story) 6-stars to complete their teams.
Anyway, just a few thoughts on how to make the 6-star change a real positive and breathe new life into the game rather than beat us down with repetition. Thanks for reading!
Obsolete is a very strong word here. Did 5-Stars make 4-Stars Obsolete? 6-Stars are not going to be easy to obtain, and then will be more difficult to Rank Up. We have lots more planned before 6-Stars ever make it into Player's hands, and that includes making 5-Stars more accessible.[/quote]
No 5*'s did not make 4*'s obsolete. But they did make 3*'s. So by that logic 6*'s will make all of our 4*'s obsolete. You have sold us on ranking up these champs just to swindle us for a cheap money grab. Be honest now!!
Are 6*'s the last level OR are there plans to go with 7*'s and on???????
We as a community deserve to know your intentions before we spend our hard earned money on this game anymore. I just spent $70 dollars to rank up my 5* iceman. Will he be the new 3* next year when you introduce 7*'s!
So act 5.3 was just announced, where are those rank up materials that were promised before October? They aren't in the rewards for 5.3.
Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. Kabam needs to watch this. Maybe learn something or two about your player base.
Dead on with regard to the problem. I think the solution is easier, just let us unlock the 6th star against our current 5 star roster.
It should not be arena based as suggested in this video.
http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/19885/six-star-suggestion-ensuring-the-games-future-safety/p1
Wish Kabam would address this evolving Champ point that we've all made.
You can do Mastermode with 3* champs 3*s are also used in arena still so I hardly see how they are obsolete...
Because 5*s made 3*s obsolete. Now 4*s will be obsolete. You can disagree about that but when new content is created later on, it will be geared toward 5 and 6 stars as far as difficulty.
You can beat Master with 1*s, too, if you're good enough. But that's user skill, not champion usefulness. You're arguing that they aren't obsolete because it's possible to use them. I can use a typewriter, but it's still obsolete. Computers replaced it.
http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/19885/six-star-suggestion-ensuring-the-games-future-safety/p1
This actually sounds like a really great idea! I'm not against 6*, but this idea really takes the cake. I'm sure many players would support an update to enhance the current 5* champs.
Easy you shouldn't have been so impatient to "blow your t2A" LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!