Guys the point I was trying to make in this post was not about my choice of champion to take into that node. Yes I took a risk which didn't payoff, I was hoping there would be EF there so I would get a charge. It was a calculated risk which spectacularly failed.
My point was that, should there exist such matchups where it's impossible for the player to win?
Yes, and that's not the only interaction like that...there are plenty more interactions in the game just like that where its near impossible to get through without spending insane resources. This game is very completed and there are alot of champs that counter each other completely. That's the whole point of the game. To diversify your roster and plan ahead so you dont run into these scenarios.
So its its perfectly okay for these interactions to exist, specially since this can easily be avoided. There are also masteries in the game that let you scan ahead and see the classes you may run into.
There are not many champs who hard counter other champs. Maw hard counters a couple. HT can hard counter a couple. What other interactions make impossible fights?
Depends on how much of an exaggeration "impossible" is. Even the Maw fight isn't mathematically impossible, just practically very unlikely.
But there are fights where the mismatch is so bad, it's unlikely you're going to win. Bringing a non-immune with suicides might still work out, until you face Void. Invisible Woman is not going to have fun fighting Morningstar. Someone tries to fight Ultron with Dormammu and they'll probably time out.
In the really old days people used to complain that a max rank max sig Magik was basically impossible to survive without the right counters. Lots of players used to bring the wrong team to a path with an Arc Overload fight on the prior maps, especially in the mid tiers, and they simply couldn't win. A trap that people would sometimes try to set back then was to place Venom on a power gain node hoping to lure the player into bringing Vision to that fight. That's not technically an impossible fight, but if you fell into that trap you're pretty much screwed.
So I recently faced a hidden AEGIS node in AW and practically ran into the 1 fight which was IMPOSSIBLE to beat. To my misfortune there was Ebony Maw and I had unluckily went in with Corvus Glaive. R.I.P.
This interaction made me think how broken this matchup still is, and specially if you add AEGIS this fight is impossible. This got me thinking, is there ANY other matchup in the game between 2 champions which is this much broken??
Should it be this way??!
You want people to feel sorry for your corvus matchup... you can take that interaction and place it nicely and o so lightly up kabamMikes invoice/mailbox. Griping about a top tier matchup man.... hope your not that guy that sends back a big Mac for not having all 3 pickles on it.... still a fuxking BIGMAC!
Using Corvus against Ebony Maw in AW was pure suicide champs like sinister and maw are designed to counter corvus and Ghost. It was natural you would lose this fight and Maw is getting buffed so sucks to be corvus. Lol
This is so dumb, why are you posting this on the forums. “OMG Corvus can’t win one fight this is an outrage!” He can literally do almost every fight in the game bar a few.
If you want to avoid this in the future put 1 point into scouter lens like everyone else who runs that lane and it won’t happen again. Impossible fight yes, but it is one of the very few hard counters to Corvus. I believe it is totally fair within the game as there are ways to avoid having that encounter if using the right masteries and having common knowledge of what shows up on that lane on the hidden nodes.
This is so dumb, why are you posting this on the forums. “OMG Corvus can’t win one fight this is an outrage!” He can literally do almost every fight in the game bar a few.
If you want to avoid this in the future put 1 point into scouter lens like everyone else who runs that lane and it won’t happen again. Impossible fight yes, but it is one of the very few hard counters to Corvus. I believe it is totally fair within the game as there are ways to avoid having that encounter if using the right masteries and having common knowledge of what shows up on that lane on the hidden nodes.
This is so dumb, why are you posting this on the forums. “OMG Corvus can’t win one fight this is an outrage!” He can literally do almost every fight in the game bar a few.
If you want to avoid this in the future put 1 point into scouter lens like everyone else who runs that lane and it won’t happen again. Impossible fight yes, but it is one of the very few hard counters to Corvus. I believe it is totally fair within the game as there are ways to avoid having that encounter if using the right masteries and having common knowledge of what shows up on that lane on the hidden nodes.
U need hugz
Lol, you may be right, but so am I when it comes to this.
CG and Ghost vs Sinister/Maw are two terrible matchups. That being said you shouldn’t go into that path with champions that you know total counters exist for
You shouldn’t bring a champion that you know has a hard counter into that line. That’s where our Maw goesfor that precise reason. Gets an easy kill every couple of wars.
Why the fixation on the AW path and not addressing the overarching impossible matchup question? There is an “impossible” matchup, but should there be “impossible” matchups in the game?
Why the fixation on the AW path and not addressing the overarching impossible matchup question? There is an “impossible” matchup, but should there be “impossible” matchups in the game?
Because people seem to have an extreme reading comprehension disorder on this forum.
Because out of 150 champions, CG can’t kill 1, this is the only place in the whole game it could ever be an issue. That’s why there’s 5 champs in your team elsewhere and 3 in AW/AQ.
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But there are fights where the mismatch is so bad, it's unlikely you're going to win. Bringing a non-immune with suicides might still work out, until you face Void. Invisible Woman is not going to have fun fighting Morningstar. Someone tries to fight Ultron with Dormammu and they'll probably time out.
In the really old days people used to complain that a max rank max sig Magik was basically impossible to survive without the right counters. Lots of players used to bring the wrong team to a path with an Arc Overload fight on the prior maps, especially in the mid tiers, and they simply couldn't win. A trap that people would sometimes try to set back then was to place Venom on a power gain node hoping to lure the player into bringing Vision to that fight. That's not technically an impossible fight, but if you fell into that trap you're pretty much screwed.
Okay, I thought of an interaction that makes an impossible fight.
If you want to avoid this in the future put 1 point into scouter lens like everyone else who runs that lane and it won’t happen again. Impossible fight yes, but it is one of the very few hard counters to Corvus. I believe it is totally fair within the game as there are ways to avoid having that encounter if using the right masteries and having common knowledge of what shows up on that lane on the hidden nodes.
That being said you shouldn’t go into that path with champions that you know total counters exist for
You shouldn’t bring a champion that you know has a hard counter into that line. That’s where our Maw goesfor that precise reason. Gets an easy kill every couple of wars.
It’s a bit of a non issue.