Stop underestimating the full Quantum Trinity

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  • KDoggg2017KDoggg2017 Member Posts: 1,257 ★★★★
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    It’s not a good idea to bring NF with Ghost if you have Antman because these 3 evade charges just totally mess up Ghost phasing mechanic. But I love the NF Antman with other synergies on the other hand.

    Exactly! The first 3 times you try to phase will become evades instead. 🤷‍♂️
  • OctoberstackOctoberstack Member Posts: 873 ★★★★
    Think it’s safe to say this thread has been more or less resolved - no one under-appreciates Antman’s synergy with Ghost, but the majority of late-game/end-game players would prefer Hood if they were forced to pick between the two.
  • solmyrairsolmyrair Member Posts: 388
    I wanted to say.. do not underestimate WASP as well. She’s really heavy hitter.
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  • 16wegnerk16wegnerk Member Posts: 214 ★★

    It’s not a good idea to bring NF with Ghost if you have Antman because these 3 evade charges just totally mess up Ghost phasing mechanic. But I love the NF Antman with other synergies on the other hand.

    How exactly do they mess up Ghost? Please do tell.
    Try fighting Korg with ghost, and then do the same fight with ghost antman and nick fury. Definitely a lot easier in the first situation due to korg not starting the fight unblockable and unstoppable from the 3 passive evades. Otherwise not much impact, but i’ve learned not to use that synergy with ghost due to that interaction
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  • djr17djr17 Member Posts: 715 ★★★
    Are you trying to say that she will still phase, or that she won't evade instead of miss?
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  • ArylAryl Member Posts: 1,302 ★★★★
    Ant-Man is the "C" of MCoC. Completely superfluous and useless unless combined with "H" (Ghost).
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  • Marri_2Marri_2 Member Posts: 577 ★★★
    I will underestimate as I please, thank you.

    Besides, no Ghost, no wasp, so what do I care?
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  • ArylAryl Member Posts: 1,302 ★★★★

    Aryl said:

    Ant-Man is the "C" of MCoC. Completely superfluous and useless unless combined with "H" (Ghost).

    I don't get your methaphor and I don't think that's the subject we're talking about.
    How can you not understand it?

    The letter C is useless just like Ant-Man.
  • Colonaut123Colonaut123 Member Posts: 3,091 ★★★★★

    Think it’s safe to say this thread has been more or less resolved - no one under-appreciates Antman’s synergy with Ghost, but the majority of late-game/end-game players would prefer Hood if they were forced to pick between the two.

    I'm with this guy. Whatever followed after that post is moot. The subject is settled.
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian
    Nick fury doesn’t work.

    Antman becomes a decent champion in the synergy, but he still has no immunity and very few strings to his bow except a small damage ramp up and a weak poison. If I had 3 slots for war/AQ and wanted to run a trinity rather than individuals I would use
  • MauledMauled Member, Guardian Posts: 3,957 Guardian
    Lvernon15 said:



    You bypass recoil IF YOU RUN SUICIDES!!! The rest of the uses are niche.

    You need to chill a bit dude, people are allowed to hold their own opinions and viewpoints dependent on their preferences, their own experiences, and their current needs. No real need to get so aggy and defensive about it, just a thought.
    Excuse me but I am merely stating the importance of the antman synergy. Not the non importance of the hood synergy. Both can be utilized to great extents, but the antman synergy is very often overlooked.
    I know plenty of ghost players that when forced to make the choice would take hood over wasp even.
    Now that's insane. I believe the wasp synergy is needed to properly play ghost. Works by parrying or special baiting too, but risky
    A MEGA skilled ghost player can get the benefits of the wasp synergy by having immense reactions and timing, but they can’t with hood, now I definitely think wasp is the most important but I can see why a few players might use hood



    You bypass recoil IF YOU RUN SUICIDES!!! The rest of the uses are niche.

    You need to chill a bit dude, people are allowed to hold their own opinions and viewpoints dependent on their preferences, their own experiences, and their current needs. No real need to get so aggy and defensive about it, just a thought.
    Excuse me but I am merely stating the importance of the antman synergy. Not the non importance of the hood synergy. Both can be utilized to great extents, but the antman synergy is very often overlooked.
    I know plenty of ghost players that when forced to make the choice would take hood over wasp even.
    Now that's insane. I believe the wasp synergy is needed to properly play ghost. Works by parrying or special baiting too, but risky
    You don’t need to be mega skilled. You just need to learn the timing of opponents. You simply time your dash back with their light/medium - think of parry timing - and launch your special then.
    I have yet to pull wasp on my main as a 5* but took my Ghost to R5 playing her just with hood or solo. Takes a bit of practice to get used to but it’s still perfectly viable.

    I would argue that if you can actually pull it off it’s better to Ghost/Hood rather than Ghost/Hood/Wasp because you free up an extra slot for the sake of extra concentration. It lets me add a bit more utility to my quest team
  • SDPSDP Member Posts: 1,622 ★★★★

    People don't use antman. They use the hood instead. Antman gives Ghost 25% attack for each buff on her. That's a lot of damage, believe me the difference is huge. Plus, you can easily slip Nick Fury in and have 3 evade charges. Hood synergy is niche. Antman synergy is a must have, always.
    Disclaimer: if you already use antman then this post isn't for you necessairly.

    I couldn’t disagree more. Hood offers WAY more than Antman’s extra bit of damage. Also, Nick fury synergy is a waste with Ghost.
  • UnFazedSkullUnFazedSkull Member Posts: 245 ★★

    Marri_2 said:

    I will underestimate as I please, thank you.

    Besides, no Ghost, no wasp, so what do I care?

    So you're saying that you'll underestimate something even though you don't know nothing about it... This is society people. Mass manipulation of the crowds that lack opinions and trust to whatever they see on the television.
    Mate at this point you talking utter nonsense this whole thread is so pointless like how is this synergy underrated if it's regarded as one of the best in the game and why does it even matter if it's underrated or not
  • Justin2524Justin2524 Member Posts: 1,626 ★★★★
    TRONG94 said:

    Doesn't ghost's phasing already negate any damage done to her while phasing? Why do you need the Hood synergy for that?

    No, she only phases active DoTs to passive furies by herself.
    Hood synergy helps her negate all kinds of damage while phasing.
    No? When a defender hits into her phase she doesn't take damage even without the Hood synergy.
  • RoninManRoninMan Member Posts: 747 ★★★★
    I would bring in Hood even before Wasp. Ghost and Wasp are both burst damage champs, but Ghost can phase and take no damage with Hood. Ghost and Wasp fill the same roles, although Wasp might be more important now that champs and nodes are starting to counter guaranteed crits. Still with enough practice, Ghost doesn’t need Wasp. I can’t remember the last time I brought Wasp.
  • PizzabeatPizzabeat Member Posts: 239 ★★

    TRONG94 said:

    Doesn't ghost's phasing already negate any damage done to her while phasing? Why do you need the Hood synergy for that?

    No, she only phases active DoTs to passive furies by herself.
    Hood synergy helps her negate all kinds of damage while phasing.
    No? When a defender hits into her phase she doesn't take damage even without the Hood synergy.
    That’s true for basic attacks & specials but without the hood synergy she still takes damage from passive debuffs & sp3’s
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