5*/6* Scarlet Witch/Wolverine

GidianX

A real possibility or a just a quiet but always present pipe dream? @Kabam Miike @ Anyone/everyone?

Bulmkt

I can’t see why Kabam can’t now release 5* versions of Wolverine and Scarlet Witch.

With the arrival of 6* champs, those two aren’t over powered in comparison.

I suspect Kabam are saving them for a 2020 release

This yr they already release Dr Strangle, Thor and Electro as 5*

DPXFistheGOAT

They should release them as compensation for the bugs today

little_known

Scarlet witch isn’t anymore powerful than the current champs in the game. She’s much like Claire but with less utility. Both have regen, nullify on hit and a beastly SP2.

They should add them both in. Both useful but by no means op compared to other champs in the game now.

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg

Bruinsfan8510 said:

In my opinion Scarlet Witch will never be a 5* champ in this game, way too over powering....she will destroy everything

That's just silly considering we have champs like ghost, aegon and domino as 5&6*s

Greekhit

Even a pre v12.0 5* SW wouldn’t be op at the current game status. Don’t forget her utility is outdated and compared to new champs utility is pretty pure and random.

theMercenary

We moved on. It’s not important anymore. Wolverine was useful when the global nodes were bane, weakness, spiked armor etc. he won’t handle act 6 nodes or highly pumped champs. He’s an old legendary champ but nothing. No immunity no damage ramp up, some bleeds and regeneration.. nah thx.

On the other hand; SW would be nice. Even now her sp2 critting 30k with enough furies and cruelties.

Anurag1606

Bruinsfan8510 said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

In my opinion Scarlet Witch will never be a 5* champ in this game, way too over powering....she will destroy everything

That's just silly considering we have champs like ghost, aegon and domino as 5&6*s

It’s not silly, she has power drain,power steal, nullify, fury, crit, regen, inflicts poison on defense.....I’ve had her special 2 up to 40K damage without any special nodes and that’s a 4* rank 5 champ

Imagine what a 5/65 Sig 200 scarlet witch could do

Ok let's imagine. 100k? We have atleast 10 champs that can surpass that damage and even more utility. No immunities, not a great suicide champ. Also the major damage is from sp2s and suicides will hurt that. Buffs and debuffs are totally RNG based. When you need something at that time you won't get those buffs that's the definition of RNG.
I mean she's great champ but in no way game breaking champ and mystic class needs a real boost. Doom is a great addition, appreciated.

Mathking13

Kabam Miike and Thel have already said that Kabam has tested 5-star Scarlet Witch and found her to be too powerful. Watch the latest episode of the UMCOC Podcast to hear in a bit more detail (just under 30 minutes in to episode 99).

SettlersofCatan

Wolvie lost his value a long time ago. Especially when Sentinels got added to AQ almost 2 years ago. Also better options out there for damage, bleeds, and sustainability.

His regen playstyle just wouldn't work these days.

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg

Bruinsfan8510 said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

In my opinion Scarlet Witch will never be a 5* champ in this game, way too over powering....she will destroy everything

That's just silly considering we have champs like ghost, aegon and domino as 5&6*s

It’s not silly, she has power drain,power steal, nullify, fury, crit, regen, inflicts poison on defense.....I’ve had her special 2 up to 40K damage without any special nodes and that’s a 4* rank 5 champ

Imagine what a 5/65 Sig 200 scarlet witch could do

Lol a max sig 5/65 sw would be great but not as strong as ghost, aegon, domino and various other beyond god tier champs

Kabam Miike

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

In my opinion Scarlet Witch will never be a 5* champ in this game, way too over powering....she will destroy everything

That's just silly considering we have champs like ghost, aegon and domino as 5&6*s

It’s not silly, she has power drain,power steal, nullify, fury, crit, regen, inflicts poison on defense.....I’ve had her special 2 up to 40K damage without any special nodes and that’s a 4* rank 5 champ

Imagine what a 5/65 Sig 200 scarlet witch could do

Lol a max sig 5/65 sw would be great but not as strong as ghost, aegon, domino and various other beyond god tier champs

Having tried out a 5-Star Scarlet Witch at Sig 200, she is more powerful than any of those Champions, and no Content stands in her way. There may be a day where we see her 5-Star version in game, but she's not coming any time soon.

Omegalevel5

Kabam Miike said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

In my opinion Scarlet Witch will never be a 5* champ in this game, way too over powering....she will destroy everything

That's just silly considering we have champs like ghost, aegon and domino as 5&6*s

It’s not silly, she has power drain,power steal, nullify, fury, crit, regen, inflicts poison on defense.....I’ve had her special 2 up to 40K damage without any special nodes and that’s a 4* rank 5 champ

Imagine what a 5/65 Sig 200 scarlet witch could do

Lol a max sig 5/65 sw would be great but not as strong as ghost, aegon, domino and various other beyond god tier champs

Having tried out a 5-Star Scarlet Witch at Sig 200, she is more powerful than any of those Champions, and no Content stands in her way. There may be a day where we see her 5-Star version in game, but she's not coming any time soon.

So why not wolverine?

hungryhungrybbq

theMercenary said:

We moved on. It’s not important anymore. Wolverine was useful when the global nodes were bane, weakness, spiked armor etc. he won’t handle act 6 nodes or highly pumped champs. He’s an old legendary champ but nothing. No immunity no damage ramp up, some bleeds and regeneration.. nah thx.

On the other hand; SW would be nice. Even now her sp2 critting 30k with enough furies and cruelties.

Wolverine actually has a great synergy with Omega. I'd love a 5* Wolvie. Great use for a mutant 2015 as well.

hungryhungrybbq

Kabam Miike said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

In my opinion Scarlet Witch will never be a 5* champ in this game, way too over powering....she will destroy everything

That's just silly considering we have champs like ghost, aegon and domino as 5&6*s

It’s not silly, she has power drain,power steal, nullify, fury, crit, regen, inflicts poison on defense.....I’ve had her special 2 up to 40K damage without any special nodes and that’s a 4* rank 5 champ

Imagine what a 5/65 Sig 200 scarlet witch could do

Lol a max sig 5/65 sw would be great but not as strong as ghost, aegon, domino and various other beyond god tier champs

Having tried out a 5-Star Scarlet Witch at Sig 200, she is more powerful than any of those Champions, and no Content stands in her way. There may be a day where we see her 5-Star version in game, but she's not coming any time soon.

😢

Championcritic

Whats her buff trigger rate at sig 200? 100%?

SettlersofCatan

Championcritic said:

Whats her buff trigger rate at sig 200? 100%?

Ooh..good point. 5*s usually have higher ceilings in their sigs.

Really miss OG SW, but man she was broken. Smash buttons get 3 regens and infinite stuns, power lock and power steal

Anurag1606

So atleast we know she's coming. Don't know when? Earlier they said she will never be a 5 star. Some positives hmm.

kfd2010

Kabam Miike said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

In my opinion Scarlet Witch will never be a 5* champ in this game, way too over powering....she will destroy everything

That's just silly considering we have champs like ghost, aegon and domino as 5&6*s

It’s not silly, she has power drain,power steal, nullify, fury, crit, regen, inflicts poison on defense.....I’ve had her special 2 up to 40K damage without any special nodes and that’s a 4* rank 5 champ

Imagine what a 5/65 Sig 200 scarlet witch could do

Lol a max sig 5/65 sw would be great but not as strong as ghost, aegon, domino and various other beyond god tier champs

Having tried out a 5-Star Scarlet Witch at Sig 200, she is more powerful than any of those Champions, and no Content stands in her way. There may be a day where we see her 5-Star version in game, but she's not coming any time soon.

Yeah, this is understandable. I've seen some nasty special 2s with just a max 4*. Can't imagine how nasty that'd be as a duped r5 5*. Still, SW used to be one of my favorite champs (and I still love using her when I get the chance) and it's a bit of a bummer to see the game passing her by.

Buttehrs

I think yall are just telling us stories. There are a ton of nodes and champs now that scarlet witch cant be used for.

Cranmer00

Instead of Scarlet witch We got scarlet witch+Diablo= Claire voyant , but’s she’s pretty dopeee

Kalantak

Well looks like they wanna sell new 'wanda' with her series probably that maroon coat n pant version n never release og SW ,but i wonder why not a single wolverine version in his prime is in game in 5* or 6*!! they can make plenty playable like xforce wolverine, weapon X wolverine, og yellow spandex wolveirne, wolverine days of future past, cause face it old man logan is not a worthy champion that u'd spend ur t5bs on or even T2a even though its more available! i'd rather take rrogue, or AA, x23, emma to R5 over him anyday(not counting those insane namors,omegas,havoks,sunpost etc)

Colonaut123

Kabam Miike said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

In my opinion Scarlet Witch will never be a 5* champ in this game, way too over powering....she will destroy everything

That's just silly considering we have champs like ghost, aegon and domino as 5&6*s

It’s not silly, she has power drain,power steal, nullify, fury, crit, regen, inflicts poison on defense.....I’ve had her special 2 up to 40K damage without any special nodes and that’s a 4* rank 5 champ

Imagine what a 5/65 Sig 200 scarlet witch could do

Lol a max sig 5/65 sw would be great but not as strong as ghost, aegon, domino and various other beyond god tier champs

Having tried out a 5-Star Scarlet Witch at Sig 200, she is more powerful than any of those Champions, and no Content stands in her way. There may be a day where we see her 5-Star version in game, but she's not coming any time soon.

Hard to believe though.

Colonaut123

Midnite93 said:

As for Wolverine his regen is crazy however it can be changed to based on power meter like his daughter x23's and give him an offensive boost only thing i see a good thing about Wolverine is his regen

Wolverine's regen is already based on the power meter.

belli300

There is no possible way at this point the game team doesn’t have a counter to her. Yeah she is op but let be honest we all like playing op champs because they are more fun to play with than champs with pillow hands

AngryYoshi

5* SW should be compensation for last 2 days of bugs and maintenance. I think community would accept that.

Lightvayne

I would Highly suggest most people in here would listen to the UMCOC podcast the Miike was on recently. A lot of interesting info in there, and the 5* SW and Wolverine thing did come up in there.
Like Miike said, its just way too powerful to be in players hands. As for way "why" have to fight against them in maps. The simple answer is the Computer AI is not as smart as an actual player, and can't really make good use of them like a actual player good.

I would check out the podcast when you get a chance. A lot of cool behind the scenes stuff revealed.

Greekhit

I doubt if a 5* SW would be even at top ten of champs in game. Whoever has doubts about that just compare the 4* version to any other god tier 4* champ. The community wants her just for the hype on her not for her damage or even more her outdated utility. Being too strong is not excuse at least for me. Unless they tested her when 5*s first came out (2016?), back then maybe she was op, but now she would just be a good champ.

Colonaut123

belli300 said:

There is no possible way at this point the game team doesn’t have a counter to her. Yeah she is op but let be honest we all like playing op champs because they are more fun to play with than champs with pillow hands

Mister Sinister is a counter, Guillotine 2099 is a counter, my Red Hulk does pretty fine, I assume CAIW and She-Hulk will have no issues with her.

Sorry to pull the ad hominem, but Kabam Miike also believes Cyclops is an effective AW attacker. So how can we trust his judgement?

Bigbowlr

Kabam Miike said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

Fhfjghhggggjfhfjg said:

Bruinsfan8510 said:

In my opinion Scarlet Witch will never be a 5* champ in this game, way too over powering....she will destroy everything

That's just silly considering we have champs like ghost, aegon and domino as 5&6*s

It’s not silly, she has power drain,power steal, nullify, fury, crit, regen, inflicts poison on defense.....I’ve had her special 2 up to 40K damage without any special nodes and that’s a 4* rank 5 champ

Imagine what a 5/65 Sig 200 scarlet witch could do

Lol a max sig 5/65 sw would be great but not as strong as ghost, aegon, domino and various other beyond god tier champs

Having tried out a 5-Star Scarlet Witch at Sig 200, she is more powerful than any of those Champions, and no Content stands in her way. There may be a day where we see her 5-Star version in game, but she's not coming any time soon.

Yeah I'd believe this 100%, the thought of her at 5/65 sig 200 and the nodes you psychos(not insulting please dont delete) would come up with to counter her would be insane.

Tehsigzorz

Scarlet witch is OP? Out of all the Act 6 bosses how many can she take down? She isnt even the best 4 star and when you have champs like quake and ghost SW wont even come close. Then ofc theres wolverine who wont be top tier but a nice to play champ