Silver Surfer not a bleed immune. Why?

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  • SavageSavage Member Posts: 621 ★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Simple answer. This is not the same Universe as any other Marvel Universe within the Multiverse. Other universes rules do not apply here.

    MCOC is based in the Earth-TRN517 universe.

    Doesn't change the fact he could use a buff. Kabam gave Colossus Incinerate and Coldsnap immunity so don't know why you guys keep bringing that up. That made him a lot more viable.

    He needs something to be more suicide friendly because his damage is meh without them. Bleed resistance or a heal could help. His damage is still pretty average with suicides l 9k mediums and 50k sp2s so he could honestly use potency buffs.
    Buffing is a separate issue to why this topic was made. The topic asked why he wasn't bleed immune. I answered with an explanation. If you think he needs a buff, there's a whole section dedicated to suggestions.
    Because giving him a bleed immunity or resistance would make him a better champ to use? Not like Kabam looks at the other one anyways.
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Simple answer. This is not the same Universe as any other Marvel Universe within the Multiverse. Other universes rules do not apply here.

    MCOC is based in the Earth-TRN517 universe.

    Doesn't change the fact he could use a buff. Kabam gave Colossus Incinerate and Coldsnap immunity so don't know why you guys keep bringing that up. That made him a lot more viable.

    He needs something to be more suicide friendly because his damage is meh without them. Bleed resistance or a heal could help. His damage is still pretty average with suicides l 9k mediums and 50k sp2s so he could honestly use potency buffs.
    Buffing is a separate issue to why this topic was made. The topic asked why he wasn't bleed immune. I answered with an explanation. If you think he needs a buff, there's a whole section dedicated to suggestions.
    Because giving him a bleed immunity or resistance would make him a better champ to use? Not like Kabam looks at the other one anyways.
    That's irrelevant to the original point of this topic.
  • shadow_lurker22shadow_lurker22 Member Posts: 3,245 ★★★★★
    Because thanos is purple and since thanos is purple the power cosmic has reduced the durability of the silver around him allowing Deadpool to poke holes in him.
  • SavageSavage Member Posts: 621 ★★★
    edited June 2020
    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Simple answer. This is not the same Universe as any other Marvel Universe within the Multiverse. Other universes rules do not apply here.

    MCOC is based in the Earth-TRN517 universe.

    Doesn't change the fact he could use a buff. Kabam gave Colossus Incinerate and Coldsnap immunity so don't know why you guys keep bringing that up. That made him a lot more viable.

    He needs something to be more suicide friendly because his damage is meh without them. Bleed resistance or a heal could help. His damage is still pretty average with suicides l 9k mediums and 50k sp2s so he could honestly use potency buffs.
    Buffing is a separate issue to why this topic was made. The topic asked why he wasn't bleed immune. I answered with an explanation. If you think he needs a buff, there's a whole section dedicated to suggestions.
    Because giving him a bleed immunity or resistance would make him a better champ to use? Not like Kabam looks at the other one anyways.
    That's irrelevant to the original point of this topic.
    How so exactly? I'm asking why he isn't bleed immune? It even defies Kabam's logic on bleed immunity. They believe if someone's skin is dense enough or they completely lack blood, then they are bleed immune. Well... I'd say surfer's skin is pretty dense if he can gain 7k armor rating and the fact his skin is literally metal... hence the name Silver Surfer. It's illogical that a Human who has blood inside of his system cannot bleed just because he has stack of armor on him yet a man who is walking "armor" can bleed. It's even more illogical that Colossus, a mere mutant, somehow has harder skin than a guy with Silver in his name. Colossus can bleed too if you didn't know that just not in his metal form.

    You guys are acting like Kabam hasn't given people immunities after their release before. They've done it with Red Hulk, Colossus, Electro, and Nebula. It's time for Surfer to get his deserved immunity too. Any comic fan that plays this game would tell you that surfer does not easily bleed. Yet in the game rock is harder than metal?
  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Simple answer. This is not the same Universe as any other Marvel Universe within the Multiverse. Other universes rules do not apply here.

    MCOC is based in the Earth-TRN517 universe.

    Doesn't change the fact he could use a buff. Kabam gave Colossus Incinerate and Coldsnap immunity so don't know why you guys keep bringing that up. That made him a lot more viable.

    He needs something to be more suicide friendly because his damage is meh without them. Bleed resistance or a heal could help. His damage is still pretty average with suicides l 9k mediums and 50k sp2s so he could honestly use potency buffs.
    Buffing is a separate issue to why this topic was made. The topic asked why he wasn't bleed immune. I answered with an explanation. If you think he needs a buff, there's a whole section dedicated to suggestions.
    Because giving him a bleed immunity or resistance would make him a better champ to use? Not like Kabam looks at the other one anyways.
    That's irrelevant to the original point of this topic.
    How so exactly? I'm asking why he isn't bleed immune? It even defies Kabam's logic on bleed immunity. They believe if someone's skin is dense enough or they completely lack blood, then they are bleed immune. Well... I'd say surfer's skin is pretty dense if he can gain 7k armor rating and the fact his skin is literally metal... hence the name Silver Surfer. It's illogical that a Human who has blood inside of his system cannot bleed just because he has stack of armor on him yet a man who is walking "armor" can bleed.

    You guys are acting like Kabam hasn't given people immunities after their release before. They've done it with Red Hulk, Colossus, Electro, and Nebula. It's time for Surfer to get his deserved immunity too. Any comic fan that plays this game would tell you that surfer does not easily bleed. Yet in the game rock is harder than metal?
    Again, I will point to my first post in this conversation. This is Earth-TRN517 based. Logic and other Marvel Universe material doesn't apply. They may choose to change it, they may not. But there is a suggestions section, and you're free to suggest the change there. But for now, the reason I have given is the reason why he isn't.
  • SavageSavage Member Posts: 621 ★★★
    edited June 2020
    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Simple answer. This is not the same Universe as any other Marvel Universe within the Multiverse. Other universes rules do not apply here.

    MCOC is based in the Earth-TRN517 universe.

    Doesn't change the fact he could use a buff. Kabam gave Colossus Incinerate and Coldsnap immunity so don't know why you guys keep bringing that up. That made him a lot more viable.

    He needs something to be more suicide friendly because his damage is meh without them. Bleed resistance or a heal could help. His damage is still pretty average with suicides l 9k mediums and 50k sp2s so he could honestly use potency buffs.
    Buffing is a separate issue to why this topic was made. The topic asked why he wasn't bleed immune. I answered with an explanation. If you think he needs a buff, there's a whole section dedicated to suggestions.
    Because giving him a bleed immunity or resistance would make him a better champ to use? Not like Kabam looks at the other one anyways.
    That's irrelevant to the original point of this topic.
    How so exactly? I'm asking why he isn't bleed immune? It even defies Kabam's logic on bleed immunity. They believe if someone's skin is dense enough or they completely lack blood, then they are bleed immune. Well... I'd say surfer's skin is pretty dense if he can gain 7k armor rating and the fact his skin is literally metal... hence the name Silver Surfer. It's illogical that a Human who has blood inside of his system cannot bleed just because he has stack of armor on him yet a man who is walking "armor" can bleed.

    You guys are acting like Kabam hasn't given people immunities after their release before. They've done it with Red Hulk, Colossus, Electro, and Nebula. It's time for Surfer to get his deserved immunity too. Any comic fan that plays this game would tell you that surfer does not easily bleed. Yet in the game rock is harder than metal?
    Again, I will point to my first post in this conversation. This is Earth-TRN517 based. Logic and other Marvel Universe material doesn't apply. They may choose to change it, they may not. But there is a suggestions section, and you're free to suggest the change there. But for now, the reason I have given is the reason why he isn't.
    There is no definite reason that we know of why he isn't bleed immune or resistance. Maybe the decision was financial, maybe rushed, or maybe they are just that ignorant, but nobody knows. I'm just waiting on a response from Kabam on the entirety of the champ where the show data and such like they did with the rebalances.
  • LunaeLunae Member Posts: 371 ★★★
    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Simple answer. This is not the same Universe as any other Marvel Universe within the Multiverse. Other universes rules do not apply here.

    MCOC is based in the Earth-TRN517 universe.

    Doesn't change the fact he could use a buff. Kabam gave Colossus Incinerate and Coldsnap immunity so don't know why you guys keep bringing that up. That made him a lot more viable.

    He needs something to be more suicide friendly because his damage is meh without them. Bleed resistance or a heal could help. His damage is still pretty average with suicides l 9k mediums and 50k sp2s so he could honestly use potency buffs.
    Buffing is a separate issue to why this topic was made. The topic asked why he wasn't bleed immune. I answered with an explanation. If you think he needs a buff, there's a whole section dedicated to suggestions.
    Because giving him a bleed immunity or resistance would make him a better champ to use? Not like Kabam looks at the other one anyways.
    That's irrelevant to the original point of this topic.
    How so exactly? I'm asking why he isn't bleed immune? It even defies Kabam's logic on bleed immunity. They believe if someone's skin is dense enough or they completely lack blood, then they are bleed immune. Well... I'd say surfer's skin is pretty dense if he can gain 7k armor rating and the fact his skin is literally metal... hence the name Silver Surfer. It's illogical that a Human who has blood inside of his system cannot bleed just because he has stack of armor on him yet a man who is walking "armor" can bleed. It's even more illogical that Colossus, a mere mutant, somehow has harder skin than a guy with Silver in his name. Colossus can bleed too if you didn't know that just not in his metal form.

    You guys are acting like Kabam hasn't given people immunities after their release before. They've done it with Red Hulk, Colossus, Electro, and Nebula. It's time for Surfer to get his deserved immunity too. Any comic fan that plays this game would tell you that surfer does not easily bleed. Yet in the game rock is harder than metal?
    Hoping this happens with him, if they won’t give him a real rework.

    Lol Silver Surfer can do so much in the comics, but barely anything interesting in game. I love playing him, but it’s hard to ignore how bland he is for such a “complex” playstyle that takes such “great” mastery.

    His movements also seem so clunky to the point that they seem worse then voodoos. When playing him he just feels so odd that I can’t help, but think hes bugged. One would think hed be designed in such a way to encourage the players to dash back before launching specials in order to proc dex, but instead it feels counterintuitive when the ais just dashes back and evades or blocks it because of how slow or delayed he is. His range is also terrible for having such a long board :D

    Relating to his immunities I get being stingy with regen when designing characters, but his phasing should shrug off poisons and bleeds at the very least considering his healing from the power cosmic is bananas. Seems like they put more time into designing his fight mechanics then his actually abilities, they just seem so thrown in and bare bones. He really painfully reminds me of Sentry where you put in so much work for so little in return.
  • 007md92007md92 Member Posts: 1,381 ★★★★
    Bpn88855 said:

    The same why GR is not immune incinerate :)

    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
    Oooooooo..... Snap!!
  • 007md92007md92 Member Posts: 1,381 ★★★★
    I don't think surfer is immune nto bleed.
    I mean he is an alien and stuff but
    He didd only have immunity from coldsnap or frostbite.
    Or incenerate. I mean travelling through space and harold.
    But not immune to bleed or poision.
    His blood was silver lr green may be. Can't remember
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,948 ★★★★★
    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Simple answer. This is not the same Universe as any other Marvel Universe within the Multiverse. Other universes rules do not apply here.

    MCOC is based in the Earth-TRN517 universe.

    Doesn't change the fact he could use a buff. Kabam gave Colossus Incinerate and Coldsnap immunity so don't know why you guys keep bringing that up. That made him a lot more viable.

    He needs something to be more suicide friendly because his damage is meh without them. Bleed resistance or a heal could help. His damage is still pretty average with suicides l 9k mediums and 50k sp2s so he could honestly use potency buffs.
    He legit bleeds in comics. Colossus doesn’t in metal form.
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,326 ★★★★★
    I see Surfer being more likely to be immune to Poison than to Bleed, he doesn't need his respiratory system to survive. So what good will poison do? If not, at the very least give him 100% resistance to it.
  • WayntosWayntos Member Posts: 607 ★★
    The "he can be poisoned because he breaths" is not a good example. The DUDE surfs in space, last time i check there no air in space which is why you can't scream space.

    One of my favorite side stories is Marvel Zombies where Hulk bite Silver Surfers head epic and Spider-man sitting around crying because he ate Mary-Jane!!
  • SavageSavage Member Posts: 621 ★★★
    edited June 2020

    Savage said:

    ItsDamien said:

    Simple answer. This is not the same Universe as any other Marvel Universe within the Multiverse. Other universes rules do not apply here.

    MCOC is based in the Earth-TRN517 universe.

    Doesn't change the fact he could use a buff. Kabam gave Colossus Incinerate and Coldsnap immunity so don't know why you guys keep bringing that up. That made him a lot more viable.

    He needs something to be more suicide friendly because his damage is meh without them. Bleed resistance or a heal could help. His damage is still pretty average with suicides l 9k mediums and 50k sp2s so he could honestly use potency buffs.
    He legit bleeds in comics. Colossus doesn’t in metal form.
    He may bleed but others have blood in their system in this game but don't take full bleed damage. These being Luke Cage, Hulkbuster (Beta), IMIW, Beast, Omega Red, etc. There is no justifying him taking full bleed damage. His skin is too hard for him to be bleeding easy like that. It's just poor design as he is tanky as hell.
  • SavageSavage Member Posts: 621 ★★★

    I see Surfer being more likely to be immune to Poison than to Bleed, he doesn't need his respiratory system to survive. So what good will poison do? If not, at the very least give him 100% resistance to it.

    Honestly he should be immune or resistant to poison too because he doesn't need to breathe but for balancing purposes Kabam might not want an all immune champion. On the other hand though... Emma frost somehow is allowed to bypass all debuffs yet surfer cannot. I guess diamond is harder than his invulnerable skin.
  • JollyHawkJollyHawk Member Posts: 611 ★★★
    You should have just started a new thread, with the title "I just pulled Silver Surfer and want him buffed!!".
  • SavageSavage Member Posts: 621 ★★★
    JollyHawk said:

    You should have just started a new thread, with the title "I just pulled Silver Surfer and want him buffed!!".

    What Surfer?


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