1 star champions

To anyone saying, "Shouldn't have sold your champions", Seatin just uploaded. Go watch the last 2-3 minutes of his rant, then come back. The big point is being missed and everyone needs to understand what people are trying to say.

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DRTO

Shouldnt have sold your champions

Liss_Bliss_

Shouldnt have sold your champions

Jaina97

Shouldnt have sold your champions

Didn't watch the video. Next!

The_Mighty_Toe

It's pretty simple. I've think I sold a 2* but I've never sold a champ since. This is a way to reward people for the way they play the game.

Jaina97

It's pretty simple. I've think I sold a 2* but I've never sold a champ since. This is a way to reward people for the way they play the game.

What part of "Watch the video" did you not understand? He talks about newer accounts not pulling more than the 2 1 stars you get in the first 15 minutes of playing. And that's a big problem seeing as you need atleast 2 separate champions for exploration.

Liss_Bliss_

@Jaina97 you don’t know if I did or didn’t watch the video. And besides it’s @Seatin . He has become increasingly more and more against Kabam after an issue a while back that was his fault. Not only that but 13+ minutes to reach the monetization time frame for a video that could have been summed up in less than 5 just shows he likes to hear himself talk. Honestly the only videos of his that are good are his explanation of champ videos. But he is slowly turning into ProffHoff.

What I took from that video. “I don’t want to spend to finish content because I don’t have a counter to a path/node” I have no sympathy for him or anyone else who says stuff like that. Each variant I have had to spend to get through some fights because I didn’t have a counter. Now when THEY have too it’s all of a sudden BS? GTFOH with that.

It comes down to endgame players who aren’t used to seeing a roadblock, now experiencing one and they are salty.

Octoberstack

@Jaina97 He makes a good point tbh, accounts these days don’t stay in the early-game phase long enough to acquire many 1*s. I started my account in July, and only picked up 4 myself, but was lucky enough to pull a 1* hulk from the (unusually expensive) hero crystals and get that 100%.

But many people won’t be as fortunate, lacking the right champs through no fault of their own, and will be disinclined to pay out 50 units for a slim chance at getting the necessary champs. I can fully sympathise with that.

I’m not saying I agree with all of Kabam’s decisions regarding this Variant. Caustic Temper was, for sure, an unexpected choice for a 1*-gated quest.

But we have to consider V4 from a wider perspective - it is a Variant level piece of content after all. The previous 3 Variants also had paths which required a specific set of champions in order to clear cheaply, and the Caustic Temper path follows this trend. Of course, in this particular case, the path only has one viable option (Hulk), despite the supplementary bleed vulnerability node. You could argue that this makes it more unfair, as other similarly limiting paths in the other Variants offered multiple viable options. Whilst this is true, those other Variants were not accompanied by a crystal that would let you specifically target the required champ(s), which is essentially what the hero crystal does. It may not come with the most appealing cost or odds, but it’s there to somewhat compensate for the fact that this one path has only one answer.

And at the end of the day, there’s no rush to explore V4 as soon as possible, as it’s permanent content, and it’s already been mentioned that there will be some events in the unconfirmed future which will allow you to acquire 1* champs outside of the hero crystal. Apologies for the essay, it’s a slow day at work.

Fugitive21

If you sold your 1*'s that's your fault not the game. Its not like some games that have character storage limits. They could of sat collecting dust doing nothing.

I have an alt account that been active 6 months and has plenty of 1*'s. All from the free crystals that were given to you or earned.

Solswerd

I would have some sympathy if this was a quest that expires in 30 days...but it is PERMANENT CONTENT. I do not blame anyone that does not want to throw units at that silly 50 unit crystal...just wait until Kabam has another one of those events where they make these champs easier to obtain.
To those that never sold a champ, but ended up with very few 1* due to the game accelerating progression...that's a bummer....but you have benefited in so many ways from that acceleration that you can afford to be patient.

Thecurler

If people sold their 2*, 3* and 4*, no problem as they can all be acquired through crystals rewarded in the game.

Kabam have now put out a piece of content where specific champs of the lowest grade (1*) are required to complete it.
For Uncollected and Cavalier the only way to earn those 1* champs is to buy a crystal for 50 units that gives you a 20% chance of pulling a 1*.

It’s one of those strange decisions by Kabam imo. They’ve put out a great piece of content with Variant 4 but somehow tainted it with a cheap move on the “pay” for crystals to acquire 1* champs.

Thecurler

And all those saying “your fault, you shouldn’t have sold your champs”.

As a rule of thumb, of course you shouldn’t sell your champs. I’m fairly confident the reason people would advise that is because of the resources you acquire from duping the lower class champs you no longer have any use for.

Nobody in their right mind would have sold their 1* if they had any idea they would be required for variant level content in the future.
This entire game is based around progressing your roster.

TaZ_4178

Only thing that sucks for me is that caustic temper node... need someone with a fury and unfortunately only have 4 1*s none that have fury...wth lol

Thecurler

Only thing that sucks for me is that caustic temper node... need someone with a fury and unfortunately only have 4 1*s none that have fury...wth lol

Same lol

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Thecurler

Imo the reason it’s such a cheap move is because of the crystal type..

50 units for a 20% chance of a 1*.. is this the first ever crystal where the chances of pulling a higher grade champ are far greater than the lower grade champ? God knows what the probability of pulling the 1* you need is.

It really should be a 1* only crystal.

Magrailothos

Imo the reason it’s such a cheap move is because of the crystal type..

50 units for a 20% chance of a 1*.. is this the first ever crystal where the chances of pulling a higher grade champ are far greater than the lower grade champ? God knows what the probability of pulling the 1* you need is.

It really should be a 1* only crystal.

Agreed. It doesn't actually affect me, since I still have my champs. But still, I don't think making a 1* crystal would have been hard.

Epistriatus

Imo the reason it’s such a cheap move is because of the crystal type..

50 units for a 20% chance of a 1*.. is this the first ever crystal where the chances of pulling a higher grade champ are far greater than the lower grade champ? God knows what the probability of pulling the 1* you need is.

It really should be a 1* only crystal.

I spend 1k units on those crystals. Buying them in batches of 5 at once, I needed 3 1* champs to form a 5 person team. So yeah it took a big chunk out if my units, and yes I agree it is a cheap move to have the drop rate change on rarity, but it is what it is.
I decided to sell all my champs back in 2018 (well every champ I could, 5 & 6* champs can’t be sold). Now I’ve made a significant comeback in terms of champ collection, but those 1* champs.....well I was Elders Bane when I sold all those champs and quit (was supposed to be definitive, turned out to be for a while), so no possible way to get them back through the daily crystal. Only way right now is the hero crystal, it sucks, but it is what it is 🤷‍♂️

Thecurler

Imo the reason it’s such a cheap move is because of the crystal type..

50 units for a 20% chance of a 1*.. is this the first ever crystal where the chances of pulling a higher grade champ are far greater than the lower grade champ? God knows what the probability of pulling the 1* you need is.

It really should be a 1* only crystal.
I spend 1k units on those crystals. Buying them in batches of 5 at once, I needed 3 1* champs to form a 5 person team. So yeah it took a big chunk out if my units, and yes I agree it is a cheap move to have the drop rate change on rarity, but it is what it is.
I decided to sell all my champs back in 2018 (well every champ I could, 5 & 6* champs can’t be sold). Now I’ve made a significant comeback in terms of champ collection, but those 1* champs.....well I was Elders Bane when I sold all those champs and quit (was supposed to be definitive, turned out to be for a while), so no possible way to get them back through the daily crystal. Only way right now is the hero crystal, it sucks, but it is what it is 🤷‍♂️

I quit the game a couple of years ago too. I sold every champ ranked lower than 4* r4 (bizarrely apart from 1* wolverine and vision, must have been an accident), opened a load of crystals and didn’t play the game for 4 months.
Fairly sure I’ve got all of those champs back, apart from the 1* of course.

SheDroveMeHere

I have only two 1* champs on my second account...I never sold any, just knew enough to move through the content quickly and not invest in crystals or champs lower than 4*.

The "you shouldn't have sold your champs" crowd are ignorant. Not everyone had them in the first place, and even if they did they wouldn't know the "don't sell rule" unless they were active in a community. Most people don't hear that until they have joined an alliance or have played it long enough to look online for guidance. It's not spelled out anywhere in the game itself so it's ridiculous to punish people or get an uppity attitude with those weren't informed.

DNA3000

To anyone saying, "Shouldn't have sold your champions", Seatin just uploaded. Go watch the last 2-3 minutes of his rant, then come back. The big point is being missed and everyone needs to understand what people are trying to say.

1. If you sold champs, you shouldn't have.

2. Most players didn't sell champs out of "ignorance." They did so because they thought selling champs would give them an advantage. They were not ignorant, they were simply wrong. You can also sell all your potions for gold, but that is also very likely to be an incorrect decision. But that is also not an ignorant decision, just a wrong one. We can't take away all possibility of making wrong decisions, because that removes the element of making right ones. The game rewards players for making good decisions; if you take away the ability to make worse ones, no one can be rewarded for making better ones.

3. Regardless of whether you sold champs or simply didn't get them due to circumstances of your gameplay, you have an additional option besides the one Seatin mentions of spending huge amounts of units or money. You can wait. This is not an instant gratification game. Sometimes the best option is to wait until better options comes along.

This is something Seatin tends to be blind to - that the game has no obligation to make every optimal choice available instantly. He shows that blindness when he talks about how worthless the bleed vulnerability node is. It is if you believe the Variant content was designed only for the options that exist now. It tells Seatin that the game developers are dumb. It tells me that better options are going to come along, and I can either power through with what I have now or wait for them to arrive.

Basically, if you had good options for Variant but you sold them, it is your fault. You're supposed to know better in a game like this, and if you didn't, well now you do. You'll do better the next time you play a progression based game like this. And if you never had those options, you can spend a huge amount today to try to get them if you feel you deserve to do everything immediately, and be one of the impatient people who fund the game for the rest of us: thanks. Or you can wait for better less expensive options to come along, and be rewarded for your patience with a much less expensive game. The choice is yours, and it is a choice that should never be taken away from the player.

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Liss_Bliss_

@Liss_Bliss_ i agree with your point on 1* champs, and how you shouldn’t have sold them. However, your insults against seatin are unjust and stupid. He has already done the variant 100%, and he may simply be trying to look out for players who sold their 1* out of ignorance and stupidity when they first started. Prof Hoff is a conspiracy theorist, seatin is not.

So you decide to insult me by calling me stupid while all I did was give my opinion on Seatin......ok then. You tell me to not insult someone but do that exact same thing. What else would I expect from a follower.

Scmb_666

I sold my 1* champs in the past and now I’m 1,200 units in and have two 1*s. Doesn’t really seem like a fair trade off for the abundance of rewards I got when I sold them.

Yes, I know... don’t sell your champs. Thanks that’s very helpful to hear for the millionth time

Liss_Bliss_

It’s the price you pay.

Inc disagree

Scmb_666

Yup. Definitely would’ve sold them if I knew they would be needed in the future.

It’s funny that in top 90 AQ, tier 3 AW, with 10 r5s, 1 r2 6*, I’m held by 1*s to complete content.

“Shouldn’t have sold your champs” 🤐

GroundedWisdom

It's pretty simple. I've think I sold a 2* but I've never sold a champ since. This is a way to reward people for the way they play the game.
What part of "Watch the video" did you not understand? He talks about newer accounts not pulling more than the 2 1 stars you get in the first 15 minutes of playing. And that's a big problem seeing as you need atleast 2 separate champions for exploration.

Newer Accounts don't really need to worry about Variant 4. It's also a different perspective when you're starting another Account after already playing for X amount of years.

Aryl

Shouldnt have sold your champions

DNA3000

Yup. Definitely would’ve sold them if I knew they would be needed in the future.

It’s funny that in top 90 AQ, tier 3 AW, with 10 r5s, 1 r2 6*, I’m held by 1*s to complete content.

“Shouldn’t have sold your champs” 🤐

You are not being held up by 1* champs. You are being held up due to a choice you made which turned out to be suboptimal.

I remember when 12.0 came out and the compensation package was tied to player rating, and people said it wasn't fair to players who sold champs because, and I quote "the game forced them to sell." The complaint was that AQ rewards - which were where the top tier rewards were in the game at the time - was based on prestige, and to get the highest prestige you needed the highest possible champs. But since only the top five are counted in prestige, you could boost your prestige by selling lower champs and using the resources to pull or rank higher prestige champs.

But this was a choice, not something players were forced to do. The game didn't make an promises that those champs would not be useful or even necessary in the future. Players decided to take the quick buck immediately sacrificing any usefulness those champs might have in the future. The notion that it was "common sense" that those champs wouldn't be useful in the future was wrong in two ways: first, it was obviously literally wrong. But second, it was obvious to me to never sell, because in games like this anything that exists that players can earn can become useful in the future. That is predictable in games like this. Players who didn't know that can't be blamed for not knowing that, but they CAN be blamed for thinking their intuition was obviously self-evidently correct, because it wasn't and there was no reason to believe it would be.

The game isn't going to tell you what will and won't be useful in the future. That is the resource management equivalent of having autofight execute perfect combat. Part of the game is making resource management decisions, and being rewarded for making good ones. And it is just as important, if not more important, to long term success in the game.

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Scmb_666

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