Character balance updates needed to keep up with new/updated content
Donn1
Member Posts: 48
Hey Kabam,
It's been a while since we have seen some character balance updates. All of this new content is great. However, half of the champs in the contest are completely neglected and are somewhat unusable for any game mode. Some of which are listed below:
Luke cage
She-Hulk
Spider-Gwen
Iron Man
Collosus
Antman
War Machine
Deadpool
Joe Fixit
It would be great to have more of an option with our rosters and be able to use any champ for their own different abilities. Every new champ you release has been thoroughly thought about with unique abilities. I.e Doc Oc, Stark Spidey, Archangel, Yondu. Compare them to the likes of Iron Man, Collosus, Luke Cage and Hulkbuster (same abilities from the start) and you can see the difference. The content is always improving (i.e. new buffs and challenges etc) but only a few characters have have been updated since the start.
A great example of a character update you made before, is Hulk. Although he doesn't have many abilities, his stun on specials and enhanced fury makes him extremely useful in certain game modes.
Would be useful to hear other peoples opinions on character balances in the game and which champs they think could be improved.
It's been a while since we have seen some character balance updates. All of this new content is great. However, half of the champs in the contest are completely neglected and are somewhat unusable for any game mode. Some of which are listed below:
Luke cage
She-Hulk
Spider-Gwen
Iron Man
Collosus
Antman
War Machine
Deadpool
Joe Fixit
It would be great to have more of an option with our rosters and be able to use any champ for their own different abilities. Every new champ you release has been thoroughly thought about with unique abilities. I.e Doc Oc, Stark Spidey, Archangel, Yondu. Compare them to the likes of Iron Man, Collosus, Luke Cage and Hulkbuster (same abilities from the start) and you can see the difference. The content is always improving (i.e. new buffs and challenges etc) but only a few characters have have been updated since the start.
A great example of a character update you made before, is Hulk. Although he doesn't have many abilities, his stun on specials and enhanced fury makes him extremely useful in certain game modes.
Would be useful to hear other peoples opinions on character balances in the game and which champs they think could be improved.
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Add Carnage to that list because he sucks
I agree to a point, the problem I see with spidergwen is her trap spider mode. It's terrible, serves no purpose and I find you often change modes accidentally by evading and blocking long specials.
The need to bake both modes together, make her Heavy charge similar to quakes so she doesn't take damage for the first hit and maybe slightly increase her damage.
They used to do this. Magik is a good example of a champ that many once thought useless until they redid her for a regular patch and replaced her "rewind" ability with "limbo" plus a few other minor stat tweaks. Anyways they used to pick one or two champs to update like this all the time then all of a sudden they stopped. Not sure why, guessing they are just more focused on adding new champs than fixing old ones now.
He don't suck, he's too weak.
We're talking about balance changes here...something you specifically mentioned when you nerfed all of the OP champs.
Don't ask Kabam for any character "balances". They'll nerf the good ones, barely raise the crappy ones, tell us "they listened", and we'll lose out in the long run.
Diversity is great but what about the champs no one want's to rank or even use? When are the older champs going to get an update? A lot of champs are stuck at r3 for most because they are useless in every game mode. People ranked up specific champs as they are good defenders (i.e. Dormammu, Mordo, Spidey, NC etc) which are now useless for some because defensive kills no longer count.
It's ridiculous how you keep changing the game modes so all the resources and effort people have put in to rank up certain champs is wasted. And you wonder why your decisions always receive negative feedback from the player base.
Agreed. But I would like to see more breakout among champs--for example, bolster the Magnetos to make them primarily defensive, or make more glass cannon type champs like Electro and Rocket with super high attack but low health or make more champs like an Angela who have a good dose of everything, but nothing in excess. Trade offs are good and force players to think strategically.
It helps to have real "diversity" among champs, with some who excel at one thing or another, and others who are more balanced. The issue with so-called "bad champs" is that there doesn't seem to be anything they excel at. That's one reason why the "defender diversity" concept feels so forced--it's just tossing a different champ in for no good reason.
Dr. Zola
electro should be shock immune.. funny to see him get shocked when he has electricity running through his veins
It would be great if you can find out from the development team if there are any character balance changes coming up in future updates.
With diversity being the main factor for AW now, players are now looking to rank up older champs, half of which have no use in the game (some of which mentioned in my original post). Character balance changes were a big part of your previous updates but there are still many champs that need to be buffed to balance them out.
Why are threads not even being acknowledged!? It takes less than a minute to even respond to threads and there are countless threads where people are sharing great ideas or giving valuable input and they just get ignored. Terrible communication from such a large company!
Are you ever going to listen to the community and take on board the suggestions people are making and feedback they are giving?
@Kabam Miike it would be great if you guys could at least let us know if you are considering updates at all in the near future. After all, you guys have mentioned that you'll be more transparent with the community going forward.
@Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Sophia @Kabam Lyra @Kabam Vydious
Can you shed some light on whether old champs will be getting buffs in future updates?
I see plenty of threads about this and not one answer from a mod on any of them. Please show some respect to the community and start providing clarity on what we can expect (as you have previously promised).
I think you are aware that the already OP Mystic champs becomes even more OP due to MD and Skill champs are missing their Pure Skill.
There are also many other mastery still not implemented. There are options to make the Champs useful. It is a matter of tailoring the quest content to bring out the strength of the Champ.
They could even do a 7 hours cooldown on champs doing quest like Arenas (example).