Why is there such a difficulty jump between acts?

JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,533 ★★★★★
There seems to be a huge climb in difficulty between Act 3 and Act 4. Act 4 just suddenly hits you hard and you have to really struggle. I don’t get it. Why not have like a dozens Acts where the difficulty is slowly increasing and you can slow but steady with the storyline instead of making you go at slow pace and to grind in such an annoying way. Like I understand that it’s probably connected to them wanting to force us to spend money on the game but it just seems stupid and something that would turn off a huge amount of casual players
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  • KerneasKerneas Member Posts: 3,837 ★★★★★
    Act 4 introduces nodes, but not actually annoying ones in most cases. At that moment you have to accept existence of nodes and you have a lot of space to learn how they work. Most of them there are just iso ingused or corruption
  • Tiger360Tiger360 Member Posts: 1,696 ★★★★

    Wait till you get to Act 5 and 6.

    I was about to comment this. Honestly act 4 only had some difficulties for me and that was when I had a pretty bad roster. I think I ran 4* Loki Unduped R4, Sentry duped R4, Beast R2 Unduped and pre buff Spider Gwen R2 Unduped. Can’t remember what the last one had but if you are finding it super difficult I’d say wait until you pull a great 4 star such as Corvus as he melts pretty much anything once he has a few charges.
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Member Posts: 7,463 ★★★★★
    At least Act 4 isn’t boring as all get out with no nodes or anything.

    If you can’t do Act 4, do heroic event quest
  • DshuDshu Member Posts: 1,509 ★★★★
    Tiger360 said:

    Wait till you get to Act 5 and 6.

    I was about to comment this. Honestly act 4 only had some difficulties for me and that was when I had a pretty bad roster. I think I ran 4* Loki Unduped R4, Sentry duped R4, Beast R2 Unduped and pre buff Spider Gwen R2 Unduped. Can’t remember what the last one had but if you are finding it super difficult I’d say wait until you pull a great 4 star such as Corvus as he melts pretty much anything once he has a few charges.
    Wow. What did you do to upset the kabam gods and receive that as your first top roster. Congratulations on clearing act 4 with that team. Please keep posting this to all the people complaining about the difficulty. If you managed it with that team they should not have a problem. Seriously that is a list of meme tier champs that nobody should be saddled with on an early account.
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  • lowlevelplayerlowlevelplayer Member Posts: 4,292 ★★★★★

    You don't need to spend money on act 4. You don't even have to spend money on any content. Look at brian grant, 100% free to play and has completed all story quests

    Brian Grant spends
  • Tiger360Tiger360 Member Posts: 1,696 ★★★★
    Dshu said:

    Tiger360 said:

    Wait till you get to Act 5 and 6.

    I was about to comment this. Honestly act 4 only had some difficulties for me and that was when I had a pretty bad roster. I think I ran 4* Loki Unduped R4, Sentry duped R4, Beast R2 Unduped and pre buff Spider Gwen R2 Unduped. Can’t remember what the last one had but if you are finding it super difficult I’d say wait until you pull a great 4 star such as Corvus as he melts pretty much anything once he has a few charges.
    Wow. What did you do to upset the kabam gods and receive that as your first top roster. Congratulations on clearing act 4 with that team. Please keep posting this to all the people complaining about the difficulty. If you managed it with that team they should not have a problem. Seriously that is a list of meme tier champs that nobody should be saddled with on an early account.
    Yeah thanks man but fortunately my luck did a 180, my third 5 star was ghost which changed everything for me. I'm now uncollected and hoping to pull a skill gem from the 1 million acorns crystal to awaken my ageon and if so I can progress even further!
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,533 ★★★★★

    JessieS said:

    There seems to be a huge climb in difficulty between Act 3 and Act 4. Act 4 just suddenly hits you hard and you have to really struggle. I don’t get it. Why not have like a dozens Acts where the difficulty is slowly increasing and you can slow but steady with the storyline instead of making you go at slow pace and to grind in such an annoying way. Like I understand that it’s probably connected to them wanting to force us to spend money on the game but it just seems stupid and something that would turn off a huge amount of casual players

    @JessieS I think the majority have already covered why Act 4 isn't that bad. So let me give you a bit of motivation and perspective here. Act 4 is your stepping stone into a much larger part of MCoC. You have to remember that those who initially did Act 4 didn't have the access to 4 and 5* champs new players of today have. It was MUCH more difficult for them, and it cost 3 energy per tile back then. If you're a 'casual player' then take your time. No rush. It's not going anywhere.

    In the beginning of the month, grind out all the difficulties of the EQ that you can. Keep allocating rank up junk, crystals, and shards. You'll eventually get a game changer of a champ and things will pick up for you. You've hit your 1st major progression plateau. It's ok, it happens. The ramp up in difficulty between Acts 4 and 5 would make your head spin at your current progression. Which is ultimately why you need to bare in mind MCoC is a marathon, not a sprint. It's only a sprint for experienced players starting a new account, or for those with deep pockets. If you're still learning, moving slower isn't a bad thing.

    As another said, focus on your Parry and Dexterity game. Those 2 masteries are essential skills for higher tier fights. Even the best champs won't take you far if you're unable to do the basics. You'll get there in time. Another piece of advice I'll throw you is choose your rank ups wisely. Higher tier rank up junk in the beginning is difficult to come by (i.e. t4bcs, t4ccs, and Alphas). So do a little research here, on Google, and/or on YouTube to gain some perspective as to whether X champ you have will continue to carry you. Sometimes you'll be forced to make due with a less than ideal option so it becomes choosing the best of the lesser goods out there. Heck, you may already have a game changer and just don't know it yet.

    One final piece of advice I'll leave you with is if you're US Based, sign up for Marvel Insider rewards if you haven't already. You'll stack points by doing the lower difficulty the monthly event quests (Beginner, Normal, and Heroic). Then you'll qualify for some extra free stuff from Marvel Insider rewards. You may land yourself a new champ for nothing that may give one of your older champs a wicked synergy that could help you along the way. Not to mention other resources that come in those Insider packages. Act 4 is tough the 1st time through so don't beat yourself up if you're not stampeding through it. You'll get there in time if you're dedicated.
    Thank you. This was such a nice and helpful answer . This is a great community :)
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,336 ★★★★★
    A4 only needs 4* R4 and with the abundance of T4B nowadays, it’s really a matter of time before it’s done.
  • Cx8Cx8 Member Posts: 77
    Yea what @SiriusBreak said, also if you have questions about rank ups or want a second opinion you can screen shot your roster and post it on here and ask who you should rank up
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,533 ★★★★★
    Cx8 said:

    Yea what @SiriusBreak said, also if you have questions about rank ups or want a second opinion you can screen shot your roster and post it on here and ask who you should rank up

    Thank you! I already asked once but I could always use more opinions . Here is my roster


    Right now I am ranking Corvus Glaive and when I gather enough T4 for another one I was thinking maybe Colossus ?
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,954 ★★★★★
    JessieS said:

    Cx8 said:

    Yea what @SiriusBreak said, also if you have questions about rank ups or want a second opinion you can screen shot your roster and post it on here and ask who you should rank up

    Thank you! I already asked once but I could always use more opinions . Here is my roster


    Right now I am ranking Corvus Glaive and when I gather enough T4 for another one I was thinking maybe Colossus ?

    Colossus has some good immunities, so he is a good option.

    How high is that sig on your CAIW? He’s a beast for clearing content. Stealth Spidey, Sentinel, and Iceman are all great (Sentinel is great for mutants) but if you do rank up colossus then don’t do iceman.

    I would suggest doing the monthly event quest 100% on heroic, and if you can, master, to get the catalysts you need. That roster is definitely enough to get through act 4. Another suggestion is practicing, because if you think this is hard, have fun doing act 5.
  • Timone147Timone147 Member Posts: 1,276 ★★★★
    The reason is there were gaps between release of the acts. Especially the later ones. In those periods rosters still progressed and the act were released to challenge the higher end of players at that time.

    The game is a marathon not a sprint
  • SeraphionSeraphion Member Posts: 1,496 ★★★★
    JessieS said:

    Neotwism said:

    The difficulty isn't that bad. Act 4 starts introducing more nodes. If u find Act 4 difficult work on exploring Act 3 and farming pots and revives to help u get used to Act 4 when u are ready for it. You may find it difficult because your champs need ranked up a little more before tackling it. If your having problems you could also ask on here how to handle some of the problem areas instead of just saying it's too hard.

    That’s kind of my point. The first three acts didn’t require any of this. Hell I explored them all at 100%. You could finish them at a natural pace but Act 4 suddenly jumps with a significant difficulty that requires a lot of ranking which is really not that easy since T4 is not easy to get for beginner players and need outside help and a ton of potions and revives .That's why I am wondering why not simply stretch out the acts and make the transition smoother instead if of getting you stuck like this and having to suddenly got at a snail pace.
    If you are able to use "dex" and "parry" you wont have any problems to go through act 4. Esp with all the good champs you can pull out of 4* crystals. Once you learn the basic of fighting you will understand that. Act 5 will make the jump even harder. And act 6 is even more crazy than that. Man 6.2.6 the champion boss was the hardest fight ever until abbys came out.
    You could also watch youtube vids to improve if you want
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,533 ★★★★★

    JessieS said:

    Cx8 said:

    Yea what @SiriusBreak said, also if you have questions about rank ups or want a second opinion you can screen shot your roster and post it on here and ask who you should rank up

    Thank you! I already asked once but I could always use more opinions . Here is my roster


    Right now I am ranking Corvus Glaive and when I gather enough T4 for another one I was thinking maybe Colossus ?

    Colossus has some good immunities, so he is a good option.

    How high is that sig on your CAIW? He’s a beast for clearing content. Stealth Spidey, Sentinel, and Iceman are all great (Sentinel is great for mutants) but if you do rank up colossus then don’t do iceman.

    I would suggest doing the monthly event quest 100% on heroic, and if you can, master, to get the catalysts you need. That roster is definitely enough to get through act 4. Another suggestion is practicing, because if you think this is hard, have fun doing act 5.
    Thanks. I just managed to get the T4 needed to rank Colossus. Should I rank him now or should I try to save for Guiltoine first ? I still need 2 T4s and one T4 mystic which I have no idea where I would get . Which would be more more practical.

    Cap is lvl 29z I got really lucky with him :)

    Oh I did the heroic already. Master is a bit too tough for me
    Oh I can only imagine how hard it would be

    Yeah Stealthy Spidey has been great so far . Very useful but I thought about waiting a little and ranking a opossum first since Spidey is awakened and doesn’t need it a much
  • dr_nish777dr_nish777 Member Posts: 313 ★★
    edited February 2020
    I wish i had domino in 5*
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,533 ★★★★★
    Seraphion said:

    JessieS said:

    Neotwism said:

    The difficulty isn't that bad. Act 4 starts introducing more nodes. If u find Act 4 difficult work on exploring Act 3 and farming pots and revives to help u get used to Act 4 when u are ready for it. You may find it difficult because your champs need ranked up a little more before tackling it. If your having problems you could also ask on here how to handle some of the problem areas instead of just saying it's too hard.

    That’s kind of my point. The first three acts didn’t require any of this. Hell I explored them all at 100%. You could finish them at a natural pace but Act 4 suddenly jumps with a significant difficulty that requires a lot of ranking which is really not that easy since T4 is not easy to get for beginner players and need outside help and a ton of potions and revives .That's why I am wondering why not simply stretch out the acts and make the transition smoother instead if of getting you stuck like this and having to suddenly got at a snail pace.
    If you are able to use "dex" and "parry" you wont have any problems to go through act 4. Esp with all the good champs you can pull out of 4* crystals. Once you learn the basic of fighting you will understand that. Act 5 will make the jump even harder. And act 6 is even more crazy than that. Man 6.2.6 the champion boss was the hardest fight ever until abbys came out.
    You could also watch youtube vids to improve if you want
    Dex and Parry was evading and blocking right before you were attacked right. I guess I am average or Hellas average when it come to this . I am trying to be better but my reflexes are not very good

  • VendemiaireVendemiaire Member Posts: 2,178 ★★★★★
    Hi, this is my first post. I just registered to the game last January 18. Rushed the Acorn event to get a 4* to easily clear Act 3.

    On topic, I guess the jump is alright because if it was as smooth as Act 1-3 then there will be no challenge and this game will be a bore. Also, it gives us time to explore other contents like Arena, Dungeon, Alliance thingies, etc. After finishing Thanos (after 4 days since I started the game) I gave the other content a look and got a sweet duped Iceman after winning the Arena two times. I also got Sunspot this morning (Japan time). So what I was trying to say is it will make you enjoy the other little things too.

    Also, Act 4 introduces a lot of new concepts and has a harder to deal with AI so stopped doing the story quest for a while to upgrade my arsenal. For example, back then I thought parry was just chance until last week when I saw a tutorial and my mind was blown. It was gamechanging. Now I'm able to execute it 90% of the time.

    In conclusion, these huge jumps or hitting a wall as I would to call it are checkpoints for us to reflect on our own capabilities so we can progress further.

    Goodluck!
  • VendemiaireVendemiaire Member Posts: 2,178 ★★★★★
    By the way, I just started Act 4. I'm now on Chapter 1 Quest 5.
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  • SamMarquezSamMarquez Member Posts: 220
    You need to fix your masteries or get more by using xp boost and getting precision,cruelty glass cannon and greater attack if you want.Parry and stupefy maxed out with dexterity.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,336 ★★★★★
    Stealth is good. But I’d rank up Iceman over Colo as he has the additional utility of handling evaders besides the triple immunity.
  • TheBestinTuakauTheBestinTuakau Member Posts: 955 ★★★
    Ya_Boi_28 said:

    You don't need to spend money on act 4. You don't even have to spend money on any content. Look at brian grant, 100% free to play and has completed all story quests

    Brian Grant spends
    No comment
    I'm 99% sure bg does NOT spend money
  • TKS87TKS87 Member Posts: 375 ★★★
    edited February 2020

    You don't need to spend money on act 4. You don't even have to spend money on any content. Look at brian grant, 100% free to play and has completed all story quests

    Brian Grant spends
    Lol..
  • Oesername123Oesername123 Member Posts: 253 ★★★
    I think the longer I play this game the more I acknowledge that this game isn't designed for the average player, such as myself and most of the player base, to bulldoze through the content itemless. The more I play and use revives and potions to go through content, the more experience I get.

    The key to getting through this game is not to waste units on random purchases, such as crystals and all that. NEVER spend on crystals if units is something that doesn't come by very often. If it's not for masteries, use it to finish content and maybe energy refills.

    I spent 3k units when I first did RoL and 6k units when I did the initial completion of LoL. For a free to play player, this is a lot, but I finished it and there's no other way I would want to spend my units more than to finish content.

    This game isn't a race, it's a marathon. Go at your own pace, don't stress if other players are doing better than you.
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