Do you think Kabam should move faster about buff old champions?

Hlpr35

İ believe everyone agree that some champions, mostly old champions need serious buff and kabam doing it with time, while so many champions waiting for buff in my opinion kabam taking it very very slow its take 5-6 month i guess between champions so what you guys thinking is kabam doing it right or they must hurry up about it? (During pandemic somethings can be going slow but im asking generally)

LibertyPrimeV1

Do you just assume they are purposefully taking it slow? 5-6 Months may be the Average Build Time for every New Champion, we just don't know, but there's a Lot more that goes into this stuff than you think too.

Hlpr35

Yes, we need buffs more quickly

LibertyPrimeV1 said:

Do you just assume they are purposefully taking it slow? 5-6 Months may be the Average Build Time for every New Champion, we just don't know, but there's a Lot more that goes into this stuff than you think too.

Not every champion need huge changes some of them can be done with small touches and come on magneto waiting for at least 3 years for example is it taking 3 years?

LibertyPrimeV1

Hlpr35 said:

LibertyPrimeV1 said:

Do you just assume they are purposefully taking it slow? 5-6 Months may be the Average Build Time for every New Champion, we just don't know, but there's a Lot more that goes into this stuff than you think too.

Not every champion need huge changes some of them can be done with small touches and come on magneto waiting for at least 3 years for example is it taking 3 years?

I agree with the Small Changes thing, like they did for Juggernaut with being Unstunable while Unstoppable, but the Magneto thing isn't fair because he's not waiting 3+ years for his buff to be finished because they haven't started one yet. And since they recently Buffed Colossus and Old Man Logan they said they were going to wait a while before buffing another Mutant to help keeping the Classes Balanced.

Hlpr35

Yes, we need buffs more quickly

LibertyPrimeV1 said:

Hlpr35 said:

LibertyPrimeV1 said:

Do you just assume they are purposefully taking it slow? 5-6 Months may be the Average Build Time for every New Champion, we just don't know, but there's a Lot more that goes into this stuff than you think too.

Not every champion need huge changes some of them can be done with small touches and come on magneto waiting for at least 3 years for example is it taking 3 years?

I agree with the Small Changes thing, like they did for Juggernaut with being Unstunable while Unstoppable, but the Magneto thing isn't fair because he's not waiting 3+ years for his buff to be finished because they haven't started one yet. And since they recently Buffed Colossus and Old Man Logan they said they were going to wait a while before buffing another Mutant to help keeping the Classes Balanced.

İ say magneto just for example but im playing this game almost since released and some of them like iron man was always trash, while so many trash in game imo they can stop release new champions so often and buff old ones instead

Superchampion_

Yes, we need buffs more quickly

Well first off, who is going to say, “no I don’t want my old, useless meme tier champs to be improved”

Of course, everyone would prefer faster, more frequent buffs but it may not be possible. As mentioned above, it may take 5 months to design or redesign a champ. Also, there are many other things people are asking for like variant 5 and cavalier difficulty etc.

Yes I want more reworks and I would like them faster but not at the cost of other content. Quality over quantity

Rockypantherx

Yes, we need buffs more quickly

I’m sure I remember hearing Dave saying (and I could be very wrong) that reworks are one of the easier things to delay so other content is probably the priority

In saying that, of course I would love them to be more frequent

LibertyPrimeV1

Hlpr35 said:

LibertyPrimeV1 said:

Hlpr35 said:

LibertyPrimeV1 said:

Do you just assume they are purposefully taking it slow? 5-6 Months may be the Average Build Time for every New Champion, we just don't know, but there's a Lot more that goes into this stuff than you think too.

Not every champion need huge changes some of them can be done with small touches and come on magneto waiting for at least 3 years for example is it taking 3 years?

I agree with the Small Changes thing, like they did for Juggernaut with being Unstunable while Unstoppable, but the Magneto thing isn't fair because he's not waiting 3+ years for his buff to be finished because they haven't started one yet. And since they recently Buffed Colossus and Old Man Logan they said they were going to wait a while before buffing another Mutant to help keeping the Classes Balanced.

İ say magneto just for example but im playing this game almost since released and some of them like iron man was always trash, while so many trash in game imo they can stop release new champions so often and buff old ones instead

If they stopped releasing new Champions they'd lose one of their Biggest Money Makers, and all joking aside about Kabam and money, it is A LOT they make off New Champion Crystals and probably couldn't afford to lose.

rwhack

They need to quit putting trash champions in as 6 stars. They should weed them out as well. They've been careful not to offer good ones like quake for example. Why they throw caution to the wind adding Karnak and Beast aka rage quit one and rage quit two I don't know.

Pseudouber

Some have good mechanics that are fun. They are just weak AF and dont scale with newer champs. Some really just need a small tweak. I would prefer some of those but still do a rework on the champs that need it.

Hlpr35

Yes, we need buffs more quickly

LibertyPrimeV1 said:

Hlpr35 said:

LibertyPrimeV1 said:

Hlpr35 said:

LibertyPrimeV1 said:

Do you just assume they are purposefully taking it slow? 5-6 Months may be the Average Build Time for every New Champion, we just don't know, but there's a Lot more that goes into this stuff than you think too.

Not every champion need huge changes some of them can be done with small touches and come on magneto waiting for at least 3 years for example is it taking 3 years?

I agree with the Small Changes thing, like they did for Juggernaut with being Unstunable while Unstoppable, but the Magneto thing isn't fair because he's not waiting 3+ years for his buff to be finished because they haven't started one yet. And since they recently Buffed Colossus and Old Man Logan they said they were going to wait a while before buffing another Mutant to help keeping the Classes Balanced.

İ say magneto just for example but im playing this game almost since released and some of them like iron man was always trash, while so many trash in game imo they can stop release new champions so often and buff old ones instead

If they stopped releasing new Champions they'd lose one of their Biggest Money Makers, and all joking aside about Kabam and money, it is A LOT they make off New Champion Crystals and probably couldn't afford to lose.

Kabam and money 😂 but i respect it they have to gain so game can continue but they atleast must be slowing down about releasing new ones if they can't doing both because old ones become really annoying and seeing some iconic heroes in comics weak in game while some regular characters in comics God tier in game also annoying

Etjama

Yes, we need buffs more quickly

I'd happily trade new champs for buffs.

Saint_Mart74

No, Kabam doing it fast already

As for the Hulkbuster buff, it may have taken longer than expected, perhaps because they were working on Abyss of Legends, Act 6.4, and Incursions. I wouldn't want them to rush a buff and have it be a disappointment. What I would like to see is two buffs at a time, as with Colossus and Logan or even three, as with Spider-Gwen, She-Hulk, and Gamora. I don't want to be critical. I have no idea what Kabam's workload is and how many people they have working. In the meantime, I'm gonna enjoy who we do have in the game and the new champions coming out.

mbrace

One meme tier updated every six months? So the projection to finish this effort is what, 2030?

LibertyPrimeV1

mbrace said:

One meme tier updated every six months? So the projection to finish this effort is what, 2030?

That's assuming we don't get another Ebony Maw...

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Mirage_Turtle

Yes, we need buffs more quickly

I think the long wait between massive overhauls would be more palatable if they were broken up with constant stat tweaks to weaker/older champs. With each update. No new abilities, just adjust frequency and potency of existing abilities to help outdated champs see relevance again.

Kamala Khan not seeing much use? Increase her fury potency and/or reduce the amount of time it takes to trigger a fury when charging a heavy.

Black Panther underperforming? Increase his bleed chance and/or proficiency.

No one is using Groot? Increase his base damage by 30%.

Pick 3 champs each month and tweak these numbers. Kabam has the data to see if a champ's usage sees an uptick. This would help make older champs seem more relevant and effort on Kabam's part would be minimal since all you're doing is changing a number and not changing an ability.

I would definitely be excited for each update to try out the newly tweaked champs if they started doing this.

Hlpr35

Yes, we need buffs more quickly

Mirage_Turtle said:

I think the long wait between massive overhauls would be more palatable if they were broken up with constant stat tweaks to weaker/older champs. With each update. No new abilities, just adjust frequency and potency of existing abilities to help outdated champs see relevance again.

Kamala Khan not seeing much use? Increase her fury potency and/or reduce the amount of time it takes to trigger a fury when charging a heavy.

Black Panther underperforming? Increase his bleed chance and/or proficiency.

No one is using Groot? Increase his base damage by 30%.

Pick 3 champs each month and tweak these numbers. Kabam has the data to see if a champ's usage sees an uptick. This would help make older champs seem more relevant and effort on Kabam's part would be minimal since all you're doing is changing a number and not changing an ability.

I would definitely be excited for each update to try out the newly tweaked champs if they started doing this.

Yes for most champions what u describe is enough but they still don't do and this make it even more annoying , but while for most champions small changes enough i wanna see some old champions as beyond god tier because of their power in comics like magneto, iron man, loki, black bolt etc but yeah for most of old ones even small changes will be enough