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G1 should be 2x t5b & 6x t2a ~ enuff for r5 a 5* + 25% t5cc crystal
P4 should be 3x t5b & 7x t2a ~ enuff for r2 a 6* + 35% t5cc crystal
Scale up and down from there
But Kabam is like
We were P4 a few seasons ago and after Flow were like nahhh .. then we were like War?
Nahhhhh
And reformed as a high prestige 5x5 / No War / 1 Optional War BG
Never been happier in game, and have gotten more outta the Glory store & having top champs always available to clear content than vs. spending for heals in the Glory store.
I HIGHLY encourage others to take the no War route if you're on the fence about it ~ it's so much more rewarding in both resources acquired over that time frame, and in saving your mental & emotional health.
This is beyond one of the most ridiculous things I've seen posted here..... wow
I’ll agree 35% of a t5cc is a bit too much but 2% is pitiful
I think we got 6 2% crystals for Master last season maybe (I really don't remember it might be less), much more than 2% wouldn't make a ton of sense really considering the effort differnce it takes between the two.
They always roll out new resources incredibly slowly now. The shard increases, and particularly the 5* shards, definitely should have been higher in the lower ranks though
Giving out 2% is pointless though if you got all the same class it would still take 6 years give or take to get a t5cc
That's how roll outs of new tire resources works though. They were selling 2% crystals for silly amounts of money recently. If you're not playing at the top levels then those things trickle in for free some time after people were already paying for that trickle. Being upset at getting any t5c at a gold ranking currently is ridiculous.
Those items take considerable amounts of time to accumulate if you're playing in lower tiers as they should.
The condescension is thick there. Gold is not "low tiers." These are alliances full of cavalier players who run map6 and many have at least done first completion of act6... maybe even a path of AoL.
I was suspecting the hidden agenda to make the game more anti quake/ghost after seeing these new double medium/light champs released, but with these new defensive tactics its clearly not hidden anymore. As if the new local nodes werent horrible enough...
the goal is to increase unit spend on potions
No ! I think the goals is to make the wars less static by diversifying the defenders et attackers used during war.
For now, the majority of alliances use flow and put Mojo, guillotine 2099, Warlock etc... in defense while attacker mainly use Quake, Voïd etc...
Using this (anti ghost/Quake) defense will force attacker to take #defensive attackers to get a better chance
How is it forcing people to take defensive attackers? Have you seen the attacker tactics for stubborn, might as well not have bothered
Well by choosing #defensive attackers you have a bonus by doing specific action that partially counter this tactic. Of course you can go with your preferred champion, whether or not he is a #defensive one but you will have to deal with the tactic without the bonus
I heard that leadership will be able to assign ppl to battlegroups, and ppl will be able to show their best defenders and attackers. When can we expect this to take place??? Equalizer24K Leader, Hunters of Goddtier
Why the big difference in increase of rewards? Top war alliance gets BOTH big increase of rank up ressources like way more t5cc and ALSO big increase in 5* and 6* shards.
Where Gold 1 and Gold 2 get close to ZERO increase in shards. Gold 1 is the only one that gets an increase of small 500x more 6* shards. Yes there are more t5b and alpha tier 2, but these ally are often AQ focussed where we also get a lot of these ressources.
I think the top ally deserves the increase. They work very hard for it. BUT you are forgetting the middleclass !!!!!
Must say that I am hugely disappointed in this AW update. Back to the drawing board!!!!
Kabam have simply overlooked the middle tiers of AW, they simply need to apply the same % increase to all rewards... come on Kabam this isn't rocket science!
We will get another one of those big merged threads for stubborn after 1-2 wars like we did for flow....kabam will say we know defense tactics didn't meet our goals, but we will introduce a new one in s20
Kabams logic honestly baffles me, they removed the two least common defense tactics, and want to promote diversity of the tactics used, yet release substantially one sided ones like flow and now stubborn ???
Can we please get confirmation on the stubborn tactic regarding the dodge mechanic. Does dodge mean If a player uses dexterity they will trigger the tactic and thus place an indestructible on the defender?
Can we please get confirmation on the stubborn tactic regarding the dodge mechanic. Does dodge mean If a player uses dexterity they will trigger the tactic and thus place an indestructible on the defender?
Can’t see why it wouldn’t, read the dexterity description.
It’s literally written into the description, I would be very surprised, although happily, that it excluded dexterity. I feel if I did that would be something deemed worthy of being stated.
It would appear to me that the change in rewards and how the higher tiers starting with plat 3 and up received a much greater bump is an ill conceived attempt to get people to play higher tier wars again. There are a lot of strong aq alliances that don’t even bother. Best guess I can give is that they think this will make them bother. Of course, it’s pretty clear it won’t and will likely lead to more aq mainly alliances but I believe this is what they are trying to do
Well, about 6* shards, Master goes from 12000 to 30000, but platinum 4 goes from 4000 to 5000, this is one of most unfair things that kabam ever made since the 4th city of the Hobbit kingdom of the middle earth. My alliance stop playing AW, only one battle group for 10 player. Welcome summer. We don’t know if we will play this game after the summer. Thanks
Thanks for sharing where the road is going. I went into an AW focused ally when kabam pronounced updated rewards. Just left them again and joined a no AW ally. Harder nodes for no noticeable increase in rewards. A joke ..
"The Grandmaster has removed Dodge and Crush from the pool of Defense Tactic choices. These two Defense Tactics did not prove very popular among Alliances, and the Grandmaster wanted to replace them with some that he hopes will bring more variety to Alliance Wars." Kabbam really i cant even imagine what you guys were thinking in that meeting room before posting this, how about you guys do a poll in the forum and call it Least popular defense tactics or Tactics you wish to remove i can bet my last dollar that Flow and Siphon will be 1 and 2 of lease favorite and also onces the community would like to remove and the poll numbers wouldn't even be close, all the community have done for months were complain about how horrible these tactics were and u remove the ones no one complain about and kept the ones everyone complain about i really don't see the logic's in that, oh wait im not done but you guys also add Stubborn lol, i almost fell out my chair when i saw these and also the attacker tactics last i check most OP flow champs were place on debuff immune nodes so getting a heavy off is close to impossible and im sure most people run max limber for defense, please take a second look at this.
What a mockery for average players really Master 1 40k 6* shards Gold1 2.5k 6* shards
Are we exist in game???
Rewards quantum is a different discussion but you can't compare Masters top spot to Gold 1. In order to have a perfect season in Master, people spend about on average 5k+ units on potions and boosts. In order to have a perfect season in Gold 1, you just need to know your basic skills.
There's no such thing as perfect season in gold 1. If you're in gold 1 and you don't lose you would bump up to plat 3 minimum, if not higher. So your argument is not correct.
Can we please get confirmation on the stubborn tactic regarding the dodge mechanic. Does dodge mean If a player uses dexterity they will trigger the tactic and thus place an indestructible on the defender?
Can’t see why it wouldn’t, read the dexterity description.
I’m aware what it states. This is why I want clarity on what “dodge” truly means. Is a shallow evade considered a dodge as we don’t trigger dex but are still “dodging their attack”. I want to know if dodging implies any mechanic where we the attacker attempt to get out of the way of an Defenders attack, or just the dexterity mechanic, or simply just NC and IW dodge mechanic as described above.
There is a lack of clarity from Kabam right now as to what constitutes a “dodge” from the attacker and it makes a BIG BIG difference in the overall strength of this new defensive tactic in my opinion.
What a mockery for average players really Master 1 40k 6* shards Gold1 2.5k 6* shards
Are we exist in game???
Rewards quantum is a different discussion but you can't compare Masters top spot to Gold 1. In order to have a perfect season in Master, people spend about on average 5k+ units on potions and boosts. In order to have a perfect season in Gold 1, you just need to know your basic skills.
There's no such thing as perfect season in gold 1. If you're in gold 1 and you don't lose you would bump up to plat 3 minimum, if not higher. So your argument is not correct.
That's not necessarily true. With how war rating has been let to run rampant for years, it's really hard to move up. You've got a number of older allys that are running 2 BG wars nd staying in Plat because their multiplier is so high. Also, you get mid allys beating up on low allys which inflates their rating and multiplier.
I was in a Plat 3/top 20 AQ ally for a few years. When the new tiers were announced we did a season of itemless AW and dropped to Gold 1. When we tried to get back into Play it was a huge pain cause we were facing basically the same allys as in Plat3 but with a lower multiplier and the allys around us were playing Gold level allys.
All in all AW is completely broken and this update is just lipstick on a pig.
What a mockery for average players really Master 1 40k 6* shards Gold1 2.5k 6* shards
Are we exist in game???
Rewards quantum is a different discussion but you can't compare Masters top spot to Gold 1. In order to have a perfect season in Master, people spend about on average 5k+ units on potions and boosts. In order to have a perfect season in Gold 1, you just need to know your basic skills.
There's no such thing as perfect season in gold 1. If you're in gold 1 and you don't lose you would bump up to plat 3 minimum, if not higher. So your argument is not correct.
I think you are wrong here. Last season we started plat4 in tier 4 and we went 9-3 and still finished plat 4. We had 2 wars in tier 3 one we won one we lost. Even if we went 10-2 we still would have been plat 4. 11-1 or perfect would have been tight but we likely would have been plat 3. Regardless as long as we were in tier 4 teams in tier 3 were gaining nearly as many points in a loss as we did a win. If you start gold 1 in all likelihood you are tier 5 or 6. Even a perfect season at best would be mid plat 4
What a mockery for average players really Master 1 40k 6* shards Gold1 2.5k 6* shards
Are we exist in game???
Rewards quantum is a different discussion but you can't compare Masters top spot to Gold 1. In order to have a perfect season in Master, people spend about on average 5k+ units on potions and boosts. In order to have a perfect season in Gold 1, you just need to know your basic skills.
There's no such thing as perfect season in gold 1. If you're in gold 1 and you don't lose you would bump up to plat 3 minimum, if not higher. So your argument is not correct.
...If you start gold 1 in all likelihood you are tier 5 or 6. Even a perfect season at best would be mid plat 4
And that would be a PERFECT season, which is effectively impossible because eventually you would get a complete mismatch.
What a mockery for average players really Master 1 40k 6* shards Gold1 2.5k 6* shards
Are we exist in game???
Rewards quantum is a different discussion but you can't compare Masters top spot to Gold 1. In order to have a perfect season in Master, people spend about on average 5k+ units on potions and boosts. In order to have a perfect season in Gold 1, you just need to know your basic skills.
There's no such thing as perfect season in gold 1. If you're in gold 1 and you don't lose you would bump up to plat 3 minimum, if not higher. So your argument is not correct.
"A perfect season to land in Gold 1" ... that's what I was talking about ...
main point being master 1 rewards cannot be compared to Gold 1 rewards. These are two separate discussions.
But the buff to both rewards can definitely be compared. Leave Master Rank 1/23 aside. It's a huge increase in 6* shards for Masters in general. And P1/2 as well. P3 gets a bit. P4 and G1 get basically nothing. A buff in rewards should be throughout the board. Not only the top.
What a mockery for average players really Master 1 40k 6* shards Gold1 2.5k 6* shards
Are we exist in game???
Rewards quantum is a different discussion but you can't compare Masters top spot to Gold 1. In order to have a perfect season in Master, people spend about on average 5k+ units on potions and boosts. In order to have a perfect season in Gold 1, you just need to know your basic skills.
There's no such thing as perfect season in gold 1. If you're in gold 1 and you don't lose you would bump up to plat 3 minimum, if not higher. So your argument is not correct.
That would entirely depend what your multiplier was when you started in g1 lol I’d like to think you’d hit platinum...but if your multiplier was just too low you could still very well end up towards the top of g1 still
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Those items take considerable amounts of time to accumulate if you're playing in lower tiers as they should.
Of course you can go with your preferred champion, whether or not he is a #defensive one but you will have to deal with the tactic without the bonus
Equalizer24K
Leader, Hunters of Goddtier
Where Gold 1 and Gold 2 get close to ZERO increase in shards. Gold 1 is the only one that gets an increase of small 500x more 6* shards. Yes there are more t5b and alpha tier 2, but these ally are often AQ focussed where we also get a lot of these ressources.
I think the top ally deserves the increase. They work very hard for it. BUT you are forgetting the middleclass !!!!!
Must say that I am hugely disappointed in this AW update. Back to the drawing board!!!!
Can we please get confirmation on the stubborn tactic regarding the dodge mechanic. Does dodge mean If a player uses dexterity they will trigger the tactic and thus place an indestructible on the defender?
There is a lack of clarity from Kabam right now as to what constitutes a “dodge” from the attacker and it makes a BIG BIG difference in the overall strength of this new defensive tactic in my opinion.
I was in a Plat 3/top 20 AQ ally for a few years. When the new tiers were announced we did a season of itemless AW and dropped to Gold 1. When we tried to get back into Play it was a huge pain cause we were facing basically the same allys as in Plat3 but with a lower multiplier and the allys around us were playing Gold level allys.
All in all AW is completely broken and this update is just lipstick on a pig.
You need to make it more competitive not to make players quit... Aw for good