Omega Red Without Suicides

Disgruntled_User_123

I can awaken and take my 5 Star to Rank 5 with full signature 200 level... but I don’t run suicides.

My maxed 4 Star hasn’t really convinced me that Omega is great without suicides from my ROL testing.

I’m very picky taking my 5 stars to Rank 5 (I only have 6 at that level) but I definitely see the utility in Omega (e.g. tentacle hits avoid passive damage, regeneration potential, damage over time for all-or-nothing nodes, double immune, etc.).

Can you please respond to this poll if you have Omega and you don’t run suicides? I’m very interested to see the community thoughts before I make my decision.

Rockypantherx

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

Disgruntled_User_123

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

Is there something I’m missing? My 4 Star Corvus makes me dream of a 5 or 6 Star because it’s so easy to see his damage potential.

But with omega, the degenerative abilities must really scale up on a 5 Star. I’m just scared to take him up and then never use him.

Worknprogress

Only Top 21-50 without suicides

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

As someone with both 5 and 6* Omega that doesn't run suicides I'm gonna strongly disagree here. The only time Omega is gonna beat out mutants like Domino or Sunspot without suicides is when you need his immunity, resistance, or it's some sort of thorns node. I'd even take Colossus in a lot of situations over Omega without suicides

Rockypantherx

Disgruntled_User_123 said:

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

Is there something I’m missing? My 4 Star Corvus makes me dream of a 5 or 6 Star because it’s so easy to see his damage potential.

But with omega, the degenerative abilities must really scale up on a 5 Star. I’m just scared to take him up and then never use him.

The Degen damage almost doubles. Besides, Omega isn’t really used for his damage. Don’t get me wrong, it’s good, but I used him a lot just building 10 spores, landing a heavy, the backing off until I had to reapply it. He can deal with a lot of problem fights that way, just being able to deal damage without hitting the opponent

Rockypantherx

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

As someone with both 5 and 6* Omega that doesn't run suicides I'm gonna strongly disagree here. The only time Omega is gonna beat out mutants like Domino or Sunspot without suicides is when you need his immunity, resistance, or it's some sort of thorns node. I'd even take Colossus in a lot of situations over Omega without suicides

Can’t speak for Domino, but I used my Omega way more throughout Act 6 than Sunspot or Colossus despite having all 3 at R5. That was just my experience though. Colossus was brought occasionally and sunspot was used on a few paths but Omega was on my team for half the paths or something. I also generally bring Omega to war and AQ while I’ve never brought Sunspot or Colossus to either. That would depend on your path though

Worknprogress

Only Top 21-50 without suicides

Rockypantherx said:

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

As someone with both 5 and 6* Omega that doesn't run suicides I'm gonna strongly disagree here. The only time Omega is gonna beat out mutants like Domino or Sunspot without suicides is when you need his immunity, resistance, or it's some sort of thorns node. I'd even take Colossus in a lot of situations over Omega without suicides

Can’t speak for Domino, but I used my Omega way more throughout Act 6 than Sunspot or Colossus despite having all 3 at R5. That was just my experience though. Colossus was brought occasionally and sunspot was used on a few paths but Omega was on my team for half the paths or something. I also generally bring Omega to war and AQ while I’ve never brought Sunspot or Colossus to either. That would depend on your path though

Yeah all of those things, especially Act 6, have really specific requirements.

Omega is a great champ regardless of mastery setup. I just think that if you aren't using suicides and bringing sabertooth in particular with you, there are better options without suicides. With suicides though, top of the pile very easily as long as he's highish sig

KDSuperFlash10

He’s still Top 5

He's easily top 5 without suicides. I use my Omega Red without suicides and he's insanely good.

Scholia

He’s still Top 5

OR is amazing without suicides. Yes, matches are shorter with suicides but if you can cycle the 10 spores then he is still amazing. Suicides makes him more sustainable IMO

Worknprogress

Only Top 21-50 without suicides

KDSuperFlash10 said:

He's easily top 5 without suicides. I use my Omega Red without suicides and he's insanely good.

That's just silly honestly

Rockypantherx

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

As someone with both 5 and 6* Omega that doesn't run suicides I'm gonna strongly disagree here. The only time Omega is gonna beat out mutants like Domino or Sunspot without suicides is when you need his immunity, resistance, or it's some sort of thorns node. I'd even take Colossus in a lot of situations over Omega without suicides

Can’t speak for Domino, but I used my Omega way more throughout Act 6 than Sunspot or Colossus despite having all 3 at R5. That was just my experience though. Colossus was brought occasionally and sunspot was used on a few paths but Omega was on my team for half the paths or something. I also generally bring Omega to war and AQ while I’ve never brought Sunspot or Colossus to either. That would depend on your path though

Yeah all of those things, especially Act 6, have really specific requirements.

Omega is a great champ regardless of mastery setup. I just think that if you aren't using suicides and bringing sabertooth in particular with you, there are better options without suicides. With suicides though, top of the pile very easily as long as he's highish sig

I can definitely see your point. I do think that content is becoming more specific lately and that is just making him more and more invaluable. I haven’t seen too much of a difference with suicides but then again, not had any difficult content to compare with.

For day to day, yeah, Domino with trinity will probably crush him. Although that’s true for most champs

Worknprogress

Only Top 21-50 without suicides

Rockypantherx said:

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

As someone with both 5 and 6* Omega that doesn't run suicides I'm gonna strongly disagree here. The only time Omega is gonna beat out mutants like Domino or Sunspot without suicides is when you need his immunity, resistance, or it's some sort of thorns node. I'd even take Colossus in a lot of situations over Omega without suicides

Can’t speak for Domino, but I used my Omega way more throughout Act 6 than Sunspot or Colossus despite having all 3 at R5. That was just my experience though. Colossus was brought occasionally and sunspot was used on a few paths but Omega was on my team for half the paths or something. I also generally bring Omega to war and AQ while I’ve never brought Sunspot or Colossus to either. That would depend on your path though

Yeah all of those things, especially Act 6, have really specific requirements.

Omega is a great champ regardless of mastery setup. I just think that if you aren't using suicides and bringing sabertooth in particular with you, there are better options without suicides. With suicides though, top of the pile very easily as long as he's highish sig

I can definitely see your point. I do think that content is becoming more specific lately and that is just making him more and more invaluable. I haven’t seen too much of a difference with suicides but then again, not had any difficult content to compare with.

For day to day, yeah, Domino with trinity will probably crush him. Although that’s true for most champs

Yeah domino with synergies for everyday stuff as long as you can stun and they aren't incinerate immune will roll through things far faster and easier. Omega definitely has some value even without suicides and is an easy rank up for anyone in my opinion but he really shines by just ending stuff super fast with his death field from suicides.

There really isn't anyone that should pass on him as he can get through some really tricky stuff easily and ignore a lot of nodes with the passive damage. I just don't think he's a go to for almost everything without suicides like he is with them.

Rockypantherx

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

As someone with both 5 and 6* Omega that doesn't run suicides I'm gonna strongly disagree here. The only time Omega is gonna beat out mutants like Domino or Sunspot without suicides is when you need his immunity, resistance, or it's some sort of thorns node. I'd even take Colossus in a lot of situations over Omega without suicides

Can’t speak for Domino, but I used my Omega way more throughout Act 6 than Sunspot or Colossus despite having all 3 at R5. That was just my experience though. Colossus was brought occasionally and sunspot was used on a few paths but Omega was on my team for half the paths or something. I also generally bring Omega to war and AQ while I’ve never brought Sunspot or Colossus to either. That would depend on your path though

Yeah all of those things, especially Act 6, have really specific requirements.

Omega is a great champ regardless of mastery setup. I just think that if you aren't using suicides and bringing sabertooth in particular with you, there are better options without suicides. With suicides though, top of the pile very easily as long as he's highish sig

I can definitely see your point. I do think that content is becoming more specific lately and that is just making him more and more invaluable. I haven’t seen too much of a difference with suicides but then again, not had any difficult content to compare with.

For day to day, yeah, Domino with trinity will probably crush him. Although that’s true for most champs

Yeah domino with synergies for everyday stuff as long as you can stun and they aren't incinerate immune will roll through things far faster and easier. Omega definitely has some value even without suicides and is an easy rank up for anyone in my opinion but he really shines by just ending stuff super fast with his death field from suicides.

There really isn't anyone that should pass on him as he can get through some really tricky stuff easily and ignore a lot of nodes with the passive damage. I just don't think he's a go to for almost everything without suicides like he is with them.

I can agree with that. I still think he’s amazing without them but it is just purely for utility. With suicides he becomes a lane clearer as well. He has a place in everyone’s roster regardless of masteries as you said.

Lvernon15

Definitely in the Top 20 because of his utility

He’s still a very good champ, damahe is solid and utility is amazing, he has a much larger ramp up then with suicides though. Without them I’d argue he’s the 2nd best mutant behind colossus, thiugh he’s much closer to aa and sunspot, he’s still a very useful champ and is worth 5-65 imo though

Worknprogress

Only Top 21-50 without suicides

Mcord117 said:

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

As someone with both 5 and 6* Omega that doesn't run suicides I'm gonna strongly disagree here. The only time Omega is gonna beat out mutants like Domino or Sunspot without suicides is when you need his immunity, resistance, or it's some sort of thorns node. I'd even take Colossus in a lot of situations over Omega without suicides

I took omega to r2 without dupe just to pair with colossus. I have domino at r2 as well. I take colossus over all of them provided you have omega on the team as well

To each their own but that's not even a question for me personally. As much as I rate colossus, I have both Domino and Omega ranked while Colossus sits at R4 waiting for me to have a glut of resources and no one to use them on

Erosenseiog

Only Top 21-50 without suicides

Rockypantherx said:

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

Worknprogress said:

Rockypantherx said:

I had my Omega at R5 sig 200 for well over a year before I got suicides recently. Used him an absolute ton in AW, AQ, Variants and Act 6 100% without them. I would I go for it.

Apart from the heal, I’ve found suicides haven’t made that much of a difference. Still easily the best mutant without them if you ask me

As someone with both 5 and 6* Omega that doesn't run suicides I'm gonna strongly disagree here. The only time Omega is gonna beat out mutants like Domino or Sunspot without suicides is when you need his immunity, resistance, or it's some sort of thorns node. I'd even take Colossus in a lot of situations over Omega without suicides

Can’t speak for Domino, but I used my Omega way more throughout Act 6 than Sunspot or Colossus despite having all 3 at R5. That was just my experience though. Colossus was brought occasionally and sunspot was used on a few paths but Omega was on my team for half the paths or something. I also generally bring Omega to war and AQ while I’ve never brought Sunspot or Colossus to either. That would depend on your path though

Yeah all of those things, especially Act 6, have really specific requirements.

Omega is a great champ regardless of mastery setup. I just think that if you aren't using suicides and bringing sabertooth in particular with you, there are better options without suicides. With suicides though, top of the pile very easily as long as he's highish sig

I can definitely see your point. I do think that content is becoming more specific lately and that is just making him more and more invaluable. I haven’t seen too much of a difference with suicides but then again, not had any difficult content to compare with.

For day to day, yeah, Domino with trinity will probably crush him. Although that’s true for most champs

I have Domino and OR at r5 and suicide active.From pure damage potential he is nowhere near Domino with her trinity and OR with sabertooth. But a lot more sustainable and shines when needed to end the fight in minimum number of hits. But own progression in game is nowhere near yours, so there is a strong possibility I am missing something.

King_Leo321

He’s still Top 5

I use Omega red without Suicides if he is sig 200 then go for it.

Kthunder

I just duped my 6 * OR over the weekend and am trying to decide if I should Rank 2 him. Don't run suicides and he is only 68 sig level. Thoughts?

KDSuperFlash10

He’s still Top 5

Kthunder said:

I just duped my 6 * OR over the weekend and am trying to decide if I should Rank 2 him. Don't run suicides and he is only 68 sig level. Thoughts?

Rank 2 him