Why does Prestige matter?

LordTenzen

Hi everybody. Serious question.

I always thought prestige was a way to rate champs, but it always seems that new champs are better..
A lot of people want to know the prestige of new champs but what for? My assumption was always, "if I rank them, they will be my top champ..."

What function does prestige serve? My guess is war..?

Sorry I am super uneducated in this department and would like to understand better.

Thanks!

DL864

Aq

DL864

The new champs dont always have high prestige

LordTenzen

DL864 said:

Aq

Can you or someone elaborate? Thanks!

Thedancingkid

LordTenzen said:

DL864 said:

Aq

Can you or someone elaborate? Thanks!

Your AQ scores are based on your alliance prestige. The higher the prestige the more points you get, the better the rewards.

It’s really only relevant if you’re in an alliance that does full map6 or 7 with modifiers.

LordTenzen

Thank you thats very helpful. So really only matters for AQ, which my alliance hardly does. We only rarely will go to Map 4 and usually stick to 3 or below depending on if war is going on.

GroundedWisdom

It matters because it's been used as an average gauge of the strength of your Account, and your Alliance. It's been used in AQ for a reason. It denotes limitations on what you can do within reason in the game. Now, there will always be some Players who can go through pretty much anything, but it's a number that averages reasonable strength.

lowlevelplayer

LordTenzen said:

Thank you thats very helpful. So really only matters for AQ, which my alliance hardly does. We only rarely will go to Map 4 and usually stick to 3 or below depending on if war is going on.

why? AQ gives the best rewards, or at least better rewards than AW

LordTenzen

lowlevelplayer said:

LordTenzen said:

Thank you thats very helpful. So really only matters for AQ, which my alliance hardly does. We only rarely will go to Map 4 and usually stick to 3 or below depending on if war is going on.

why? AQ gives the best rewards, or at least better rewards than AW

We have always been AW focused until this last AW season bungle. It was agreed that war is/was more fun, so AQ was just a supplement to War where we could gain Glory/ rank materials. Seriously considering prioritizing AQ, as the future of war seems.. uncertain. Especially for us tiny, single BG Alliances.

Panchulon21

Higher average prestige. The higher you help increase your alliance prestige.

The higher your alliance prestige the more points you gain by clearing alliance quest everyday.

The higher you clear everyday the more of a boost from day to day.

By the end the more prestige the more points you end with alliance quest day 5 and higher you can Place in the ranking

Panchulon21

Hope that helps ^

Thicco_Mode

LordTenzen said:

lowlevelplayer said:

LordTenzen said:

Thank you thats very helpful. So really only matters for AQ, which my alliance hardly does. We only rarely will go to Map 4 and usually stick to 3 or below depending on if war is going on.

why? AQ gives the best rewards, or at least better rewards than AW

We have always been AW focused until this last AW season bungle. It was agreed that war is/was more fun, so AQ was just a supplement to War where we could gain Glory/ rank materials. Seriously considering prioritizing AQ, as the future of war seems.. uncertain. Especially for us tiny, single BG Alliances.

I would definitely prioritize aq. aw gives shards, but for most people, it's really not worth the stress and hassle

LordTenzen

Yes, very helpful thank you. Really pushing me to start higher AQ maps.

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lowlevelplayer

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

ItsDamien

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

5.5k prestige is like R4 5* unduped. It's not that bad.

Hammerbro_64

Like you may have guessed, prestige isn’t tied to how good a champ is. For example, Thor Ragnarok used to be the highest prestige champ, so people would rank him up so they would place higher in AQ, but in terms of a move set he is very lackluster and just not that great of a champ. Then there are people like Hyperion who are generally lower on the prestige side of things that are insanely good.

Prestige is important for AQ, but it doesn’t dictate how good anyone is.

Neotwism

Usually players don't have to worry about prestige until after they reach Cavalier. That's when some alliances will have certain requirements in order to maximize their rewards. Most alliances doing map 5 and lower don't worry too much about prestige. In order to get a top prestige team it usually means spending money to get the new champs. Several sites have a prestige chart like auntm.ai if your interested.

SummonerNR

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

@lowlevelplayer , what maps are your ally running that they require 5.5k prestige ?
They can’t be trying to compete for the very high AQ series rank spots with that low of Prestige (compared to Ally's that are 9k+).

Maybe they’re just using Prestige as an alternative to overall Rating (or how many of certain Rank champs you have).
But if they are using it to dictate basically WHO you have to have as your highest Prestige champs, that really is only valid for the top level Ally’s who have to “OUT-PRESTIGE” each other in order to get highest points while doing map 777x5.

Thanks_D19

Prestige is just a number that measures a characters stats not how good they actually are, it is the base PI of a champion and the mean of the top 5 champions in your roster in terms of prestige is your profile prestige, this profile prestige affects alliance prestige and the higher your alliance prestige is the more points you will get from AQ

Thedancingkid

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

You’re better off finding an alliance that properly understands how the game works.
Prestige requirements for alliances that don’t run all map6 at least are useless, and even then anything under 10k won’t make a significant difference in the rewards.

If you can clear your paths in AQ and war they shouldn’t have anything to complain about.

Menkent

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

I would respectfully suggest that your alliance leadership doesnt know what they're doing. At that level, even if you manage to get slightly ahead of your peers in aq ranking the next tier of rewards would be an insignificant difference. The only justification for this I can see would be if they really want people to have a full team of 5* r4 so you can start running a higher map in aq... but even then I'd rather have someone who is really good with a 4* quake vs someone with random unduped 5*s that they took up for prestige.

lowlevelplayer

ItsDamien said:

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

5.5k prestige is like R4 5* unduped. It's not that bad.

Yea, but prestige is top 5 champs. That means I need at least 3 R4 high prestige champs.

lowlevelplayer

SummonerNR said:

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

@lowlevelplayer , what maps are your ally running that they require 5.5k prestige ?
They can’t be trying to compete for the very high AQ series rank spots with that low of Prestige (compared to Ally's that are 9k+).

Maybe they’re just using Prestige as an alternative to overall Rating (or how many of certain Rank champs you have).
But if they are using it to dictate basically WHO you have to have as your highest Prestige champs, that really is only valid for the top level Ally’s who have to “OUT-PRESTIGE” each other in order to get highest points while doing map 777x5.

our leadership is not dictating our rank-ups, but its a factor that we consider. I'm fairly lucky to have pulled good, high prestige 5*s, but others aren't.
BHR doesn't really matter at all, so I guess you could say prestige is a substitute.
PS. we run 55444 44443 44433

Thedancingkid

lowlevelplayer said:

SummonerNR said:

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

@lowlevelplayer , what maps are your ally running that they require 5.5k prestige ?
They can’t be trying to compete for the very high AQ series rank spots with that low of Prestige (compared to Ally's that are 9k+).

Maybe they’re just using Prestige as an alternative to overall Rating (or how many of certain Rank champs you have).
But if they are using it to dictate basically WHO you have to have as your highest Prestige champs, that really is only valid for the top level Ally’s who have to “OUT-PRESTIGE” each other in order to get highest points while doing map 777x5.

our leadership is not dictating our rank-ups, but its a factor that we consider. I'm fairly lucky to have pulled good, high prestige 5*s, but others aren't.
BHR doesn't really matter at all, so I guess you could say prestige is a substitute.
PS. we run 55444 44443 44433

You’re really just confirming that your leader doesn’t really understand what they’re doing. Prestige absolutely doesn’t matter if you’re doing these maps. You’ll get much further as an alliance if you let people rank up the champs they like and can play well with completely removed from prestige considerations.

lowlevelplayer

Thedancingkid said:

lowlevelplayer said:

SummonerNR said:

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

@lowlevelplayer , what maps are your ally running that they require 5.5k prestige ?
They can’t be trying to compete for the very high AQ series rank spots with that low of Prestige (compared to Ally's that are 9k+).

Maybe they’re just using Prestige as an alternative to overall Rating (or how many of certain Rank champs you have).
But if they are using it to dictate basically WHO you have to have as your highest Prestige champs, that really is only valid for the top level Ally’s who have to “OUT-PRESTIGE” each other in order to get highest points while doing map 777x5.

our leadership is not dictating our rank-ups, but its a factor that we consider. I'm fairly lucky to have pulled good, high prestige 5*s, but others aren't.
BHR doesn't really matter at all, so I guess you could say prestige is a substitute.
PS. we run 55444 44443 44433

You’re really just confirming that your leader doesn’t really understand what they’re doing. Prestige absolutely doesn’t matter if you’re doing these maps. You’ll get much further as an alliance if you let people rank up the champs they like and can play well with completely removed from prestige considerations.

as I said, no one is forcing prestige rank ups in my alliance

Thedancingkid

lowlevelplayer said:

Thedancingkid said:

lowlevelplayer said:

SummonerNR said:

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

@lowlevelplayer , what maps are your ally running that they require 5.5k prestige ?
They can’t be trying to compete for the very high AQ series rank spots with that low of Prestige (compared to Ally's that are 9k+).

Maybe they’re just using Prestige as an alternative to overall Rating (or how many of certain Rank champs you have).
But if they are using it to dictate basically WHO you have to have as your highest Prestige champs, that really is only valid for the top level Ally’s who have to “OUT-PRESTIGE” each other in order to get highest points while doing map 777x5.

our leadership is not dictating our rank-ups, but its a factor that we consider. I'm fairly lucky to have pulled good, high prestige 5*s, but others aren't.
BHR doesn't really matter at all, so I guess you could say prestige is a substitute.
PS. we run 55444 44443 44433

You’re really just confirming that your leader doesn’t really understand what they’re doing. Prestige absolutely doesn’t matter if you’re doing these maps. You’ll get much further as an alliance if you let people rank up the champs they like and can play well with completely removed from prestige considerations.

as I said, no one is forcing prestige rank ups in my alliance

You say you guys consider prestige when ranking up and mention you’ve been luckier than most when pulling high prestige champs. It shouldn’t be a factor at all.

SummonerNR

lowlevelplayer said:

as I said, no one is forcing prestige rank ups in my alliance

Yet you said they want Prestige of 5.5k. Hopefully that is just a generalization, and that 5.4 or 5.3 would be just as fine with them, if a 5.3 reflects the same number of champs at certain Rank as what someone with 5.5 has, regardless of WHO the champs are.

Point being, I’d much rather have people have their highest ranked champs be champs that are better, not caring whether a champ has a higher Prestige number versus another one if comparing between the two.

As to very opening question, top contenders want to know base Prestige of new champs so that they know whether they should really push and go after getting them and ranking them to max, so that they can squeeze out an ever so slightly higher Prestige # for their Ally, to slightly squeak past other top Ally’s for slightly more AQ points at the very top.

lowlevelplayer

Thedancingkid said:

lowlevelplayer said:

Thedancingkid said:

lowlevelplayer said:

SummonerNR said:

lowlevelplayer said:

Arsoz said:

Prestige doesnt matter only top players care about prestige

not true lol. I need to get to 5.5k prestige asap to stay in my alliance. Its a struggle for players of all levels, especially the F2P ones

@lowlevelplayer , what maps are your ally running that they require 5.5k prestige ?
They can’t be trying to compete for the very high AQ series rank spots with that low of Prestige (compared to Ally's that are 9k+).

Maybe they’re just using Prestige as an alternative to overall Rating (or how many of certain Rank champs you have).
But if they are using it to dictate basically WHO you have to have as your highest Prestige champs, that really is only valid for the top level Ally’s who have to “OUT-PRESTIGE” each other in order to get highest points while doing map 777x5.

our leadership is not dictating our rank-ups, but its a factor that we consider. I'm fairly lucky to have pulled good, high prestige 5*s, but others aren't.
BHR doesn't really matter at all, so I guess you could say prestige is a substitute.
PS. we run 55444 44443 44433

You’re really just confirming that your leader doesn’t really understand what they’re doing. Prestige absolutely doesn’t matter if you’re doing these maps. You’ll get much further as an alliance if you let people rank up the champs they like and can play well with completely removed from prestige considerations.

as I said, no one is forcing prestige rank ups in my alliance

You say you guys consider prestige when ranking up and mention you’ve been luckier than most when pulling high prestige champs. It shouldn’t be a factor at all.

why not? I feel like higher tier players have a very rosy nostalgic feel about lower level alliances and players. You just assume that we don't have a care in the world, we rank up who we love, we don't need to worry about nodes, etc...

Menkent

You need to worry about nodes, not an arbitrary metric that kabam put into aq scoring to push top players to get the newest champs regardless of their utility. If you're in act 5 something like Rogue could be way more useful than Silver Surfer.

lowlevelplayer

Menkent said:

You need to worry about nodes, not an arbitrary metric that kabam put into aq scoring to push top players to get the newest champs regardless of their utility. If you're in act 5 something like Rogue could be way more useful than Silver Surfer.

rogue more useful than surfer? no way