Advice on Abyss roster...

SquirrelguySquirrelguy Member Posts: 2,654 ★★★★★
edited July 2020 in Strategy and Tips
So I am a cavalier player setting my sights on the Abyss as my next big piece of content to complete. This will take a while to save up revives, etc. but I also want to plan and take up the right champs. Obviously Aegon is a must to take in, but what other champs should I consider, and what are some problem fights that I need to find answers for?

Ps. Here are my 5* R4, 5* R5, and 6* R1 champs. Ive got plenty of rank up gems in the stash, and yes the Colossus is R5 but I'm waiting for the next level up event to get him that green star.




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  • SquirrelguySquirrelguy Member Posts: 2,654 ★★★★★
    @Kamikaze_Turtle About how many units/revives did you end up using?
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 4,071 Guardian
    You are unfortunately missing some pieces.
    A good nullifier : Doom, symsupreme, claire
    A good science killer : HT/void

    She hulk can offset some of this but that still leaves some critical missing pieces for all easy lane fights.
    I would suggest waiting to fill the holes and doing other content (variants)
  • SquirrelguySquirrelguy Member Posts: 2,654 ★★★★★
    I just finished exploring Variant 2, already finished exploring 4, am working on V3 since I just pulled Ghost a week ago. I know I don't have the roster yet, I just want to know what to focus on in the future.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,518 ★★★★★

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★
    Ahh ok that’s fair, for the future then you need a good science champ that’s incinerate immune and a good mystic nullifier.
    The way it was worded it was like you wanted to start next week or something 😂.
    You could blitz trough labyrinth in the meantime though, I hear it’s incredibly easy with Aegon.
  • MiStaLovaMiStaLova Member Posts: 942 ★★★

    You are unfortunately missing some pieces.
    A good nullifier : Doom, symsupreme, claire
    A good science killer : HT/void

    She hulk can offset some of this but that still leaves some critical missing pieces for all easy lane fights.
    I would suggest waiting to fill the holes and doing other content (variants)

    Claire voyant is good for abbys?
  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    I’d agree with this, if you have the 4 ‘horsemen’ then it’s probably worth doing 1 run of abyss before act 6 100%.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,518 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Yes and no abyss is esay because u not punished for mistakes as much as u in for act6 for now wil changes tho
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  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    No matter what u will need items for abyss even with aegon after 200 or so hits the timer runs out and the opponent hows unstoppable and unblockable... they have between 2.7 mil and 5 mil heath... I only soloed 3 fights the rest I need items for
    I didn't said the opposite. Just that act 6 will cost less than Abyss.
    Besides, in terms of progression, Abyss should be the last thing to be done, unless you have the proper champions for it (which isn't the case here).

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
    I said it would cost much less than doing Abyss. You can even do some paths itemless with the right champions for it. I personally used items for sure, but no units for instances
  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Lol, Act 6 100% is about a hundred times harder than Abyss 100%, I know, I’ve done both. Act 6 is huge roster check, requires dozens of very specific node and champion counters, and requires a high level of skill and understanding of the game whereas if you have an infinite number of units, you can Autofight through Abyss. If you aren’t a skilled player, you won’t complete Act 6 100%, you simply won’t get past the 6.2.6 Champion (or the 6.2.5 Mordo for that matter). Abyss is way way easier than Act 6 100% and if you are well prepared for it, much cheaper.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,518 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    No matter what u will need items for abyss even with aegon after 200 or so hits the timer runs out and the opponent hows unstoppable and unblockable... they have between 2.7 mil and 5 mil heath... I only soloed 3 fights the rest I need items for
    I didn't said the opposite. Just that act 6 will cost less than Abyss.
    Besides, in terms of progression, Abyss should be the last thing to be done, unless you have the proper champions for it (which isn't the case here).

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
    I said it would cost much less than doing Abyss. You can even do some paths itemless with the right champions for it. I personally used items for sure, but no units for instances
    I’m Agerd with that’s and as we ikow he doesn’t hav the best option so for him it better to wait to get a sym fx then he can start thinking abudt abyss
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    No matter what u will need items for abyss even with aegon after 200 or so hits the timer runs out and the opponent hows unstoppable and unblockable... they have between 2.7 mil and 5 mil heath... I only soloed 3 fights the rest I need items for
    I didn't said the opposite. Just that act 6 will cost less than Abyss.
    Besides, in terms of progression, Abyss should be the last thing to be done, unless you have the proper champions for it (which isn't the case here).

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
    I said it would cost much less than doing Abyss. You can even do some paths itemless with the right champions for it. I personally used items for sure, but no units for instances
    You didn't use units to 100% act 6? Didn't buy revives, potions or energy refills?
  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★
    Also, OP, you're not ready for Abyss yet, not until your Void is awakened or you have Torch, you need one of them. You also need a good nullifier. If you're gunning to do a completion run, you can do the easy path with Aegon, unduped 6r1 Void, Magik (if you take her to r5), Colossus, and Venom, but it won't be fun or cheap. Now, Abyss isn't fun in general, but it can be cheap if you are prepared. Personally, I'd wait to do the easy path until you at least have Doom, Claire, or Sym plus Torch. Ideally, you should wait until you have them and Nick Fury too.
  • Eb0ny-O-M4wEb0ny-O-M4w Member Posts: 14,159 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Lol, Act 6 100% is about a hundred times harder than Abyss 100%, I know, I’ve done both. Act 6 is huge roster check, requires dozens of very specific node and champion counters, and requires a high level of skill and understanding of the game whereas if you have an infinite number of units, you can Autofight through Abyss. If you aren’t a skilled player, you won’t complete Act 6 100%, you simply won’t get past the 6.2.6 Champion (or the 6.2.5 Mordo for that matter). Abyss is way way easier than Act 6 100% and if you are well prepared for it, much cheaper.
    I think that would fall more on a personal case then. I did 100% act 6 already, but still no path on Abyss done due to not having the proper champions for it. And I much rather prefer to wait to get the perfect counters than waste units here and there.

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    No matter what u will need items for abyss even with aegon after 200 or so hits the timer runs out and the opponent hows unstoppable and unblockable... they have between 2.7 mil and 5 mil heath... I only soloed 3 fights the rest I need items for
    I didn't said the opposite. Just that act 6 will cost less than Abyss.
    Besides, in terms of progression, Abyss should be the last thing to be done, unless you have the proper champions for it (which isn't the case here).

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
    I said it would cost much less than doing Abyss. You can even do some paths itemless with the right champions for it. I personally used items for sure, but no units for instances
    You didn't use units to 100% act 6? Didn't buy revives, potions or energy refills?
    I only use refils when they're about to expire. Have a couple right now about to expire without having a place to use energy (already 100% entire EQ on all difficulties, and classic difficulties of Back Issues quests).
    Revives and potions are farmable, no need to buy them if you have a couple of them and are prepared to do 1 or 2 paths
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    Well, abyss is at the point LoL basically was when it first came out, handful of good options. Technically, any champ should be able to do both, but the items that would be spent due to using the wrong type of champs could be absolutely tremendous and unnecessary! Patience should pay off, just give it time until you get all the right champs, whether the horsemen or their alternatives. Or wait for kabam to release other good champs that would be able to oneshot abyss like aegon can for LoL today.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Lol, Act 6 100% is about a hundred times harder than Abyss 100%, I know, I’ve done both. Act 6 is huge roster check, requires dozens of very specific node and champion counters, and requires a high level of skill and understanding of the game whereas if you have an infinite number of units, you can Autofight through Abyss. If you aren’t a skilled player, you won’t complete Act 6 100%, you simply won’t get past the 6.2.6 Champion (or the 6.2.5 Mordo for that matter). Abyss is way way easier than Act 6 100% and if you are well prepared for it, much cheaper.
    I think that would fall more on a personal case then. I did 100% act 6 already, but still no path on Abyss done due to not having the proper champions for it. And I much rather prefer to wait to get the perfect counters than waste units here and there.

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    No matter what u will need items for abyss even with aegon after 200 or so hits the timer runs out and the opponent hows unstoppable and unblockable... they have between 2.7 mil and 5 mil heath... I only soloed 3 fights the rest I need items for
    I didn't said the opposite. Just that act 6 will cost less than Abyss.
    Besides, in terms of progression, Abyss should be the last thing to be done, unless you have the proper champions for it (which isn't the case here).

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
    I said it would cost much less than doing Abyss. You can even do some paths itemless with the right champions for it. I personally used items for sure, but no units for instances
    You didn't use units to 100% act 6? Didn't buy revives, potions or energy refills?
    I only use refils when they're about to expire. Have a couple right now about to expire without having a place to use energy (already 100% entire EQ on all difficulties, and classic difficulties of Back Issues quests).
    Revives and potions are farmable, no need to buy them if you have a couple of them and are prepared to do 1 or 2 paths
    Props to you, man!
  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Lol, Act 6 100% is about a hundred times harder than Abyss 100%, I know, I’ve done both. Act 6 is huge roster check, requires dozens of very specific node and champion counters, and requires a high level of skill and understanding of the game whereas if you have an infinite number of units, you can Autofight through Abyss. If you aren’t a skilled player, you won’t complete Act 6 100%, you simply won’t get past the 6.2.6 Champion (or the 6.2.5 Mordo for that matter). Abyss is way way easier than Act 6 100% and if you are well prepared for it, much cheaper.
    I think that would fall more on a personal case then. I did 100% act 6 already, but still no path on Abyss done due to not having the proper champions for it. And I much rather prefer to wait to get the perfect counters than waste units here and there.

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    No matter what u will need items for abyss even with aegon after 200 or so hits the timer runs out and the opponent hows unstoppable and unblockable... they have between 2.7 mil and 5 mil heath... I only soloed 3 fights the rest I need items for
    I didn't said the opposite. Just that act 6 will cost less than Abyss.
    Besides, in terms of progression, Abyss should be the last thing to be done, unless you have the proper champions for it (which isn't the case here).

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
    I said it would cost much less than doing Abyss. You can even do some paths itemless with the right champions for it. I personally used items for sure, but no units for instances
    You didn't use units to 100% act 6? Didn't buy revives, potions or energy refills?
    I only use refils when they're about to expire. Have a couple right now about to expire without having a place to use energy (already 100% entire EQ on all difficulties, and classic difficulties of Back Issues quests).
    Revives and potions are farmable, no need to buy them if you have a couple of them and are prepared to do 1 or 2 paths
    Yeah I forgot to say that Abyss is easy so long as you have Ægon, Doom/SS/Claire, Torch/Void, Fury, and a Havok counter
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,518 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Lol, Act 6 100% is about a hundred times harder than Abyss 100%, I know, I’ve done both. Act 6 is huge roster check, requires dozens of very specific node and champion counters, and requires a high level of skill and understanding of the game whereas if you have an infinite number of units, you can Autofight through Abyss. If you aren’t a skilled player, you won’t complete Act 6 100%, you simply won’t get past the 6.2.6 Champion (or the 6.2.5 Mordo for that matter). Abyss is way way easier than Act 6 100% and if you are well prepared for it, much cheaper.
    I think that would fall more on a personal case then. I did 100% act 6 already, but still no path on Abyss done due to not having the proper champions for it. And I much rather prefer to wait to get the perfect counters than waste units here and there.

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    No matter what u will need items for abyss even with aegon after 200 or so hits the timer runs out and the opponent hows unstoppable and unblockable... they have between 2.7 mil and 5 mil heath... I only soloed 3 fights the rest I need items for
    I didn't said the opposite. Just that act 6 will cost less than Abyss.
    Besides, in terms of progression, Abyss should be the last thing to be done, unless you have the proper champions for it (which isn't the case here).

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
    I said it would cost much less than doing Abyss. You can even do some paths itemless with the right champions for it. I personally used items for sure, but no units for instances
    You didn't use units to 100% act 6? Didn't buy revives, potions or energy refills?
    I only use refils when they're about to expire. Have a couple right now about to expire without having a place to use energy (already 100% entire EQ on all difficulties, and classic difficulties of Back Issues quests).
    Revives and potions are farmable, no need to buy them if you have a couple of them and are prepared to do 1 or 2 paths
    Yeah I forgot to say that Abyss is easy so long as you have Ægon, Doom/SS/Claire, Torch/Void, Fury, and a Havok counter
    Ægon can do havok at 500 combos
  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★
    Gamer said:

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Lol, Act 6 100% is about a hundred times harder than Abyss 100%, I know, I’ve done both. Act 6 is huge roster check, requires dozens of very specific node and champion counters, and requires a high level of skill and understanding of the game whereas if you have an infinite number of units, you can Autofight through Abyss. If you aren’t a skilled player, you won’t complete Act 6 100%, you simply won’t get past the 6.2.6 Champion (or the 6.2.5 Mordo for that matter). Abyss is way way easier than Act 6 100% and if you are well prepared for it, much cheaper.
    I think that would fall more on a personal case then. I did 100% act 6 already, but still no path on Abyss done due to not having the proper champions for it. And I much rather prefer to wait to get the perfect counters than waste units here and there.

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    No matter what u will need items for abyss even with aegon after 200 or so hits the timer runs out and the opponent hows unstoppable and unblockable... they have between 2.7 mil and 5 mil heath... I only soloed 3 fights the rest I need items for
    I didn't said the opposite. Just that act 6 will cost less than Abyss.
    Besides, in terms of progression, Abyss should be the last thing to be done, unless you have the proper champions for it (which isn't the case here).

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
    I said it would cost much less than doing Abyss. You can even do some paths itemless with the right champions for it. I personally used items for sure, but no units for instances
    You didn't use units to 100% act 6? Didn't buy revives, potions or energy refills?
    I only use refils when they're about to expire. Have a couple right now about to expire without having a place to use energy (already 100% entire EQ on all difficulties, and classic difficulties of Back Issues quests).
    Revives and potions are farmable, no need to buy them if you have a couple of them and are prepared to do 1 or 2 paths
    Yeah I forgot to say that Abyss is easy so long as you have Ægon, Doom/SS/Claire, Torch/Void, Fury, and a Havok counter
    Ægon can do havok at 500 combos
    Can he? Didn’t know that. I used my 6r3 Havok for it and he worked great.
  • Kill_GreyKill_Grey Member Posts: 8,666 ★★★★★
    The other champ that the horsemen would have the most problem with is probably Luke Cage
  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★

    The other champ that the horsemen would have the most problem with is probably Luke Cage

    Oh god, screw Luke Cage. I had to bring in Stealthy just for that fight. Though, for the record, Ægon can do that fight too, I just sucked at it with him.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,518 ★★★★★

    Gamer said:

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Lol, Act 6 100% is about a hundred times harder than Abyss 100%, I know, I’ve done both. Act 6 is huge roster check, requires dozens of very specific node and champion counters, and requires a high level of skill and understanding of the game whereas if you have an infinite number of units, you can Autofight through Abyss. If you aren’t a skilled player, you won’t complete Act 6 100%, you simply won’t get past the 6.2.6 Champion (or the 6.2.5 Mordo for that matter). Abyss is way way easier than Act 6 100% and if you are well prepared for it, much cheaper.
    I think that would fall more on a personal case then. I did 100% act 6 already, but still no path on Abyss done due to not having the proper champions for it. And I much rather prefer to wait to get the perfect counters than waste units here and there.

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    No matter what u will need items for abyss even with aegon after 200 or so hits the timer runs out and the opponent hows unstoppable and unblockable... they have between 2.7 mil and 5 mil heath... I only soloed 3 fights the rest I need items for
    I didn't said the opposite. Just that act 6 will cost less than Abyss.
    Besides, in terms of progression, Abyss should be the last thing to be done, unless you have the proper champions for it (which isn't the case here).

    Gamer said:

    Act 6 100%, and Variants 100%. As well as labyrinth 100%.
    All that before Abyss. Until then you will gather more champions to help you there

    No I’m wil said u don’t need 100 Act6 to do abyss 1 part since one part in abyss can help u to do act6 100 procent
    What I meant with it, is that act 6 100% is easier than Abyss. You can do it fairly well with minimum or no item usage, while Abyss will require you items.
    The OP still don't have the right champions for Abyss, so it's better to focus on those other areas
    Did you just say you can 100% act 6 with no items??
    I said it would cost much less than doing Abyss. You can even do some paths itemless with the right champions for it. I personally used items for sure, but no units for instances
    You didn't use units to 100% act 6? Didn't buy revives, potions or energy refills?
    I only use refils when they're about to expire. Have a couple right now about to expire without having a place to use energy (already 100% entire EQ on all difficulties, and classic difficulties of Back Issues quests).
    Revives and potions are farmable, no need to buy them if you have a couple of them and are prepared to do 1 or 2 paths
    Yeah I forgot to say that Abyss is easy so long as you have Ægon, Doom/SS/Claire, Torch/Void, Fury, and a Havok counter
    Ægon can do havok at 500 combos
    Can he? Didn’t know that. I used my 6r3 Havok for it and he worked great.
    I’m was sure before kam said it one Twitter.
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