Mastery Question-Pacify, Petrify, and Despair

Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 2,840 ★★★★★
Are those three masteries worth it? I have despair 3/3 and have definitely seen its value, but I'm not sure if it's the best investment of mastery points.

For petrify, I guess it could be useful, and I've had 1/3 for a while, but again, I'm not sure if there are better investments.

Finally, is it worth it to get pacify? I've never used it and I've seen some people max it while others don't have it at all. would it screw up your flow/tempo if the aar actually triggers? I feel like for certain nodes/abilities where you have to change your playstyle, it might be weird when it triggers sometimes but not always, so your playstyle would be weird. are there any abilities where it counters it really well?

and are deep wounds and assassin' worth it? my main bleed champs are aa and warlock if you want to count his heavy. and are any masteries more useful than assassin?

thanks for any guidance on all of these

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Comments

  • Carmel1Carmel1 Posts: 379 ★★
    i have pacify and i like it. not because of the power reduction (which is unnoticeable) but more for the ability reductions... it helps a bit when you parry Korg\AV and similar because there is a 30% chance they won't be able to shrug of the stun.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 2,840 ★★★★★
    Carmel1 said:

    i have pacify and i like it. not because of the power reduction (which is unnoticeable) but more for the ability reductions... it helps a bit when you parry Korg\AV and similar because there is a 30% chance they won't be able to shrug of the stun.

    ooh yeah that does sound useful for korgs. thanks for the input:)
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 2,840 ★★★★★
  • Lvernon15Lvernon15 Posts: 8,240 ★★★★★
    I personally don’t bother with petrify and pacify, but despair is amazing, pacify isn’t bad, petrify isn’t the best
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 2,840 ★★★★★
    Lvernon15 said:

    I personally don’t bother with petrify and pacify, but despair is amazing, pacify isn’t bad, petrify isn’t the best

    thanks for the advice. I'm probably keeping 3/3 despair and go for some points in assassin and maybe pacify if I have extras.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 2,840 ★★★★★
    unrelated question, but why is limber useful for aol?
  • SeraphionSeraphion Posts: 792 ★★★

    unrelated question, but why is limber useful for aol?

    Bc their Specials have a 100% chance to stun you. So when you mess up you wont get stunlocked to death.

    They also have a stun chance on their normal attacks.
  • Aomine_Daiki10Aomine_Daiki10 Posts: 685 ★★★

    unrelated question, but why is limber useful for aol?

    Don't bother with limber go for maxed assassin
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 2,840 ★★★★★
    Seraphion said:

    unrelated question, but why is limber useful for aol?

    Bc their Specials have a 100% chance to stun you. So when you mess up you wont get stunlocked to death.

    They also have a stun chance on their normal attacks.

    unrelated question, but why is limber useful for aol?

    Don't bother with limber go for maxed assassin
    thanks, I was just wondering, bc I had seen it in aol and mastery guides
  • Midnite93Midnite93 Posts: 3,230 ★★★★★
    Petrify is very useful for reducing healing and power gain on stun and is quite useful on arc overload champs or passive regen like wolverine or power gain champs like the infamous hyperion it helps mitigate it a bit. Pacify gives AAR reduction on stun and it is very useful in some scenarios like say you are fighting Magik it reduces her chance to proc limber and you parry stun her her chances of limbo trigger is reduced. Despair helps in reducing the regeneration upto 15% on 3 points on each debuff and the more debuffs you stack the more the regeneration is mitigated or even prevented. You do have some debuff heavy champs so despair can help you out.
  • Midnite93Midnite93 Posts: 3,230 ★★★★★

    unrelated question, but why is limber useful for aol?

    Limber helps in reducing the stun on you and chances are it may happen sometimes. But not really needed as OP said above assassin at max will help you in LOL & AOL
  • CiciliatoCiciliato Posts: 134

    Are those three masteries worth it? I have despair 3/3 and have definitely seen its value, but I'm not sure if it's the best investment of mastery points.

    For petrify, I guess it could be useful, and I've had 1/3 for a while, but again, I'm not sure if there are better investments.

    Finally, is it worth it to get pacify? I've never used it and I've seen some people max it while others don't have it at all. would it screw up your flow/tempo if the aar actually triggers? I feel like for certain nodes/abilities where you have to change your playstyle, it might be weird when it triggers sometimes but not always, so your playstyle would be weird. are there any abilities where it counters it really well?

    and are deep wounds and assassin' worth it? my main bleed champs are aa and warlock if you want to count his heavy. and are any masteries more useful than assassin?

    thanks for any guidance on all of these

    current setup




    top champs


    I have 4 points on deep wounds mainly for Warlock and CAIW (others at R4 but don't really use then) and I don't think of change it
  • CiciliatoCiciliato Posts: 134
    Also I have max pacify for mystic dispersion but it's a flex spot, if I want willpower I take it out
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Posts: 2,840 ★★★★★
    Ciciliato said:

    Are those three masteries worth it? I have despair 3/3 and have definitely seen its value, but I'm not sure if it's the best investment of mastery points.

    For petrify, I guess it could be useful, and I've had 1/3 for a while, but again, I'm not sure if there are better investments.

    Finally, is it worth it to get pacify? I've never used it and I've seen some people max it while others don't have it at all. would it screw up your flow/tempo if the aar actually triggers? I feel like for certain nodes/abilities where you have to change your playstyle, it might be weird when it triggers sometimes but not always, so your playstyle would be weird. are there any abilities where it counters it really well?

    and are deep wounds and assassin' worth it? my main bleed champs are aa and warlock if you want to count his heavy. and are any masteries more useful than assassin?

    thanks for any guidance on all of these

    current setup




    top champs


    I have 4 points on deep wounds mainly for Warlock and CAIW (others at R4 but don't really use then) and I don't think of change it
    I think I'll focus on more general masteries like assassin and maybe the stun ones and then I might look at deep wounds depending on my roster. Thanks
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